blues_demitra38 11 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 He brings more to the table than any of Abdelkader/Eaves/Miller. Speed, a booming shot and a force on the power play. Why he is being benched, I have no idea. Get him back out there and let him fly. 2 AtomicPunk and TheDetroitRedWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Er, Modano is not faster than those three. I do agree that he needs to play and Abdelkader needs to sit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Not without a time machine. 1 asoras reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Klunzo 36 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Not without a time machine. The DeLorean is in the garage...I might just lend it to him if needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Given last game's performance, I might sit Franzen for Modano. He's been bad this year, but he can't be any worse than Mule was. 4 T.Low, Aussie_Wing, LidsFan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Given last game's performance, I might sit Franzen for Modano. He's been bad this year, but he can't be any worse than Mule was. Wait, Franzen played tonight? 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 'Enough is enough'. After one loss. Modano is virtually useless, Draper in, Miller out, simple. 2 Blaayze and VikingMark reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grayne Wetzky Report post Posted April 30, 2011 I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but I would have kept Z out if I was Babcock. The Wings were undefeated with the line-up they were rolling. Why change until something goes wrong? 1 TheDetroitRedWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 I'd sit Miller next game for Modano. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but I would have kept Z out if I was Babcock. The Wings were undefeated with the line-up they were rolling. Why change until something goes wrong? Uh, because the Sharks—as we saw tonight—are not the Winnipeg Jetyotes? Seriously, this takes the cake for "dumb posts made after a loss." 3 WMUsiv1, Booster313 and SaCkaveli20 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Wait, Franzen played tonight? He supposedly did... I don't recall actually seeing him out there though. Slip Bert into Franzen's spot, bring Helm up to the third line with Mo and Cleary, and then swap in Drapes for Abby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 He supposedly did... I don't recall actually seeing him out there though. Slip Bert into Franzen's spot, bring Helm up to the third line with Mo and Cleary, and then swap in Drapes for Abby. I'd pretty much roll: ZDH Bert/Fil/Hudler Cleary/Mo/Miller Draper/Helm/Eaves Frankly I like rewarding effort and smart play, and Franzen and Abdelkader didn't show me crap tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 I like rewarding effort and smart play, and Franzen and Abdelkader didn't show me crap tonight. Modano isn't better. Unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 Modano isn't better. Unfortunately. A pylon would have been better than Franzen tonight. At least we'd see it and it couldn't give the puck away trying stupid passes in the offensive zone. Modano would be playing third line minutes as well, allowing Bertuzzi to play second line minutes with Filppula and Hudler, who both looked great tonight despite how unnoticeable Franzen was. 1 Aussie_Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 I'd pretty much roll: ZDH Bert/Fil/Hudler Cleary/Mo/Miller Draper/Helm/Eaves Frankly I like rewarding effort and smart play, and Franzen and Abdelkader didn't show me crap tonight. I would rather Helm than Miller on the third line because it allows for Modano on the wing, where he is better suited anyway. It also makes that a quick, defensively capable third line that has scoring punch. Miller/Draper/Eaves is still a solid fourth line; slip Abby in for any of them if you like and it still works out well - hopefully he'll do better than tonight. 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 How quickly people forget that certain players still have nagging injuries, specifically a forward who is still nursing an ankle from a previous series. 2 55fan and VikingMark reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 How quickly people forget that certain players still have nagging injuries, specifically a forward who is still nursing an ankle from a previous series. How though did his play differ from most nights where he is healthy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 How though did his play differ from most nights where he is healthy? He had two goals in three games last series. But you are right, let's sit one of Detroit's top playoff performers on the whims of some irrational fans and the team's first loss of the playoffs. Silly me. 7 shoe, Majsheppard, Frozen-Man and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 How quickly people forget that certain players still have nagging injuries, specifically a forward who is still nursing an ankle from a previous series. That is infact the reason i would sit Franzen and enter Michigan Mike. I'd rather take my chances with an old rusty Mikey Mo with something to prove, than a great playoff scoring machine with a bad peg. You can't do s*** with a bad ankle. It's not his fault, it's just the way it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 He had two goals in three games last series. But you are right, let's sit one of Detroit's top playoff performers on the whims of some irrational fans and the team's first loss of the playoffs. Silly me. He had a couple of good moments. He also made some massive errors; his first goal only made up for completely blowing coverage that directly led to a goal. He scored 2 in 3 last series, but was maybe the team's 6th or 7th best forward. And so far against the Sharks he's looked even worse. He hasn't shown the ability to play defense in years, and his scoring is wildly inconsistent if he's not in "playoff beast" mode; which he is not right now. 1 Aussie_Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 I would rather Helm than Miller on the third line because it allows for Modano on the wing, where he is better suited anyway. It also makes that a quick, defensively capable third line that has scoring punch. Miller/Draper/Eaves is still a solid fourth line; slip Abby in for any of them if you like and it still works out well - hopefully he'll do better than tonight. Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, I just think that at this point, Helm works better as a grinder with Eaves and Draper as opposed to fitting in with a better line like Cleary and Mo. Honestly, I'd just like to see Abdelkader sitting and Bert getting a chance on the second line, I don't much care who sits or who comes in for them. That is infact the reason i would sit Franzen and enter Michigan Mike. I'd rather take my chances with an old rusty Mikey Mo with something to prove, than a great playoff scoring machine with a bad peg. You can't do s*** with a bad ankle. It's not his fault, it's just the way it is. Exactly. I'm not saying he's not injured, it's just that Franzen wasn't typical playoff-Franzen. He was more regular season-Franzen, and while you notice him every once in a while, playoff-Franzen gets noticed on every shift, it feels like. I also noticed Bert a lot tonight, which is why I think he should get time on the second line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 abs eaves and miller are essential on the PK. cant sit them unless you substitute for draper. the only guy modano might replace is hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 More Like PLAY RED WINGS HOCKEY TIME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MulesWillFly93 199 Report post Posted April 30, 2011 More Like PLAY RED WINGS HOCKEY TIME Yeah, agreed. If the team continues to play like that, it doesn't matter what line-up we roll...we will lose. On the other hand, I'd like to see what Modano can do for us, just for a game, maybe. I don't know what to do with Franzen...he's so damn unpredictable. One night he's doing every little thing right and lighting it up, and the next he's missing passes and floating around like a lost dog. He could be back to his old self on Sunday, or he might continue to play like tonight...you just can't tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 30, 2011 'Enough is enough'. After one loss. No kidding. It's good that nobody in any position of importance anywhere is as fickle as some of the posters here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites