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[dragonballgtz]

Mursak (one point in 19 games) over Burt (45 points) for second line in the playoffs? Gotcha.

So when is the regular season playoffs? I'm not sure if you are watching but Bert looks like ass out there. I would rather have a guy out there with the wheels and energy that is comparable to Helm and Draper than have a useless second liner like Bert out there.

Edited by dragonballgtz, 04 May 2011 - 10:22 PM.

[Majsheppard]

Blow it up.


I could care less if there was only Helm and Pavel returning next year. Everyone was anti-clutch. It seemed like they all took turns stepping up to ruin our chances. Taking horrible penalties, making horrible turnovers, playing suspect defense, letting pucks go by, no rebound control, missing golden chances.

The Wings that won last time played the best when it meant the most, these Wings play the worst when they are in control. ANTI CLUTCH! That is the only way you lose to Joe Thorton and Marleau, the kings of this phenomenon.

It is my feeling that any change would be a good one now, and I would start by getting rid of every goat in the series. Declare to the world the Red Wings will not stand for that sloppy s***.

[evilmrt]

Ah yeah, some light house cleaning will be required. Does Holland see things like that though? Two back-to-back failures against the Sharks...how obvious does it need to be what this team needs changed?

[Majsheppard]

My first action would be clear to me. Bye McCrimmon.

Hi Atlanta? Yes, I would like to offer you Hudler, Bertuzzi, and Ericson plus our draft pick for Bogo. Kthxbi.

Then I would sign Weber to a one year offer, which Nashville would match. Then I would listen to any offer for anyone over the age of 30 whose name isn't Pavel Datsyuk.

[Hockeytown0001]

Goodbye McCrimmon.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

It's becoming more apparent each passing day that Filppula won't be much more than he is now, a floater. Get rid of him while he still has some trade value. Same can be said for Hudler. Looked atrocious to start the year off, then went on a tear, now he's invisible out there again. Just another "Leino". Quit signing washed up guys at the end of their careers. Let Salei go after we get eliminated. Let Modano go. Let Ericsson go. Bring some younger, hungrier guys into the mix. Less pretty, and a little more gritty. As much as I like Draper, we've got to get younger. Sign him to a 2-way deal so he can mentor the guys in Grand Rapids and fill in when need be.

[Kass]

I don't even know where to start. Our defense, with the exception of Lids, is either mediocre (Stuart) or godawful (everyone else). Our second and third lines are both streaky as hell and tend to be off way more than they're on (especially in the playoffs). Jimmy's a solid goalie, but he'll never win us games single-handedly and that's something you need if you want to win.


San Jose rolls three scoring lines that ACTUALLY SCORE every night. We roll one. And that has to change.

[Liberation]

Boyd Gordon... So he can teach Red Wings centers how to win face offs.

Also, last I checked, Stuarts job has been the PK and furthermore, blocking shots, which the Red Wings and him have been awful at.

Edited by Liberation, 04 May 2011 - 11:38 PM.

[mjtm77]

I think the wings are playing fine. just got some bad breaks. Guys stop dreaming barley anything will be done this offseason

[wingsownnhl43]

The Red Wings definitely need some changes. Here we go..

Assuming the cap goes up $4 million and Lidstrom retires.

1. Trade Hudler.

2. Sign Brooks Laich, Raffi Torres, Kevin Bieksa, and James Wisniewski.

We would add two forwards that would make us bigger, stronger, and tougher to compliment and maybe even protect our euros. We would also add two solid defenseman that can actually block a shot.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Brooks Laich ($3.750m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Raffi Torres ($1.500m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.950m)
/ Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kevin Bieksa ($4.750m) / James Wisniewski ($4.250m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.750m)
/ Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Chris Osgood ($1.000m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $63,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,967,044; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $432,956

[brett]

tradef****** franzen. either injured or under performing

need grit forward and defense

[Majsheppard]

I will say it again, Pavel and Helm are untouchable, I would entertain all other offers. Not saying I would move everyone, but I would listen to all offers.

[luvmnger]

ekman-larsson (young offensive defenseman) future #1/2 d-man #7 now with lids training (swede)

drew stafford (25 year old 6'2" winger) replace modano/miller/draper/hudler take your pick...

zenon konopka (30 year old heavy that is hardly ever injured and faceoff specialist!)replace modano/miller/draper/hudler

tobias endstrom ( 26 year old offensive defenseman puts up points/72 plus games for 3 years in a row) replace salei
brent burns ( 6'5" hard edged defenseman) replace ericsson!

how about this....

Zetterberg-Konopka-Datsyuk
Stafford-Franzen-Bertuzzi
Filppula-Abdelkader-Cleary
Helm-Eaves-Holmstrom
emmerton/mursak reserves

Lidstrom-Stuart
Burns-Rafalski
Kronwall-Endstrom

ekman-larsson/smith reserves/training

[Feldmarschall]

Turn off NHL '11 and get with reality. The Wings aren't going to magically get a top-three draft pick this year, they're not going to trade Flip for Stamkos/Bogosian/other blue chip talent. It's also not a guarantee that every UFA you want will sign with the Wings if they make the offer. The odds are actually quite low. The most we should expect to see is a couple of small trades or UFA acquisitions, and perhaps a shuffle of the assistant coaches. If Lidstrom retires, things will get more interesting.

We will be treated to many more years of Franzen's inconsistent effort, and probably several more years of Filppula not making a difference when it counts. Just deal with it. Can't win the cup every year, and especially not when the team's roster plays like it only has four good players and a boatload of half-assed scrubs.

[Jusek]

2. Sign Brooks Laich, Raffi Torres, Kevin Bieksa, and James Wisniewski.

We would add two forwards that would make us bigger, stronger, and tougher to compliment and maybe even protect our euros. We would also add two solid defenseman that can actually block a shot.

I'd love to see those guys in Wings lineup. Laich and Torres can hit and score, and Bieksa and Wisniewski are gritty and they shoot right. We need that type of players.

[sputman]

something pretty significant needs to be done. the summer will be long (looking like it) and lots of fans will get over it and just be excited for some more hockey, but many won't. and if holland comes back next year talking about how he likes our team again there will be some pretty upset people, me included.

our team does look good on paper but we're missing what takes you deep into the playoffs. i've watched a lot of the other games and what i noticed is how mean the other teams are. we can hit, we haven't had to prove that this series, but we aren't very mean. i think a mean player is a motivated player and can physically and mentally wear down other players.

i don't know. i'm frustrated. i love this team but they sure are frustrating.

Goodbye McCrimmon.

please?

[Aussie_Wing]

2011/12:

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Cleary
Franzen - Filppula - Bertuzzi
Hudler - Helm - Eaves
Abdelkader - Emmerton - Mursak
(Holmstrom)

2012/13...

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Cleary
Franzen - Filppula - Hudler
Tatar - Helm - Mursak
Abdelkader - Emmerton - Eaves

2013/14 is where we really start seeing change...

Jarnkrok/Pulkkinen/Nyquist/Andersson come on down!

Edited by Aussie_Wing, 05 May 2011 - 08:45 AM.

[stinky fish taco]

oh god, dan cleary is signed for TWO more years @ 3mil?

ugh.

send his ass to the minors.

[Krayzie_Bone]

I think the Wings need better D. I think Erickson is a 7th D man at best. Brad Stuart is good but I dont think he should be logging important ice time in playoffs he seems to get nervious and can not even get the puck out of the zone and turns it over a lot. Lindstrom is still great but not getting any younger and maybe not quite as sharp. Just a side note on the Shark series Hudler and Flipula seem to be bumbling around with the puck almost every time they have it. Almost turning it over in some cases turning it over and even almost falling a few times. IDK what the problem is.

[redwingfan19]

This team needs to get bigger and tougher

soft euro experiment needs to come to and end.