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#21 Grayne Wetzky

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 12:43 PM

Bertuzzi and Holmstrom are signed through next season? Damn. Didn't realize this. Forget about it, then. There's no point in even having any discussions until the philosophy of the team is changed. Right now, we've got a philosophy of filling the roster with as many power play specialists as we can find and as little 5 on 5 grit guys as we can find. There are way too many one dimensional players locked up on the Wings right now for them to be dominant contenders. Until they realize this, it's 2nd round exits galore.

The Wings need to replace Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Hudler, and Rafalski as fast as possible. But it sounds like we're stuck with all of them for another year. So no point in getting all worked up about anything.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 01:07 PM

my defensive wants for Christmas!

oliver ekman-larsson (future)
brent burns (physical)
tobias endstrom (offensive)
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 01:18 PM

Why Pitkanen when Bieksa is/should be available and he's exactly what we need. He's right hand DEF who can play on 2nd PP unit, can play on PK, hits, fights...

Then go after Grier and Konopka (very good on faceoff and PK) for PK unit and Detroit should be just fine.

Get rid of Hudler for anything/anybody...

Try to go after Nabokov and that's it!

Bertuzzi and Holmstrom are signed through next season? Damn. Didn't realize this. Forget about it, then. There's no point in even having any discussions until the philosophy of the team is changed. Right now, we've got a philosophy of filling the roster with as many power play specialists as we can find and as little 5 on 5 grit guys as we can find. There are way too many one dimensional players locked up on the Wings right now for them to be dominant contenders. Until they realize this, it's 2nd round exits galore.

The Wings need to replace Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Hudler, and Rafalski as fast as possible. But it sounds like we're stuck with all of them for another year. So no point in getting all worked up about anything.



Bertuzzi is fine on 3rd/4th line.
Holmstrom and Hudler are done.
Rafalski back as 5th DEF at $2.5M anytime.
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:06 PM

Why Pitkanen when Bieksa is/should be available and he's exactly what we need. He's right hand DEF who can play on 2nd PP unit, can play on PK, hits, fights...

Then go after Grier and Konopka (very good on faceoff and PK) for PK unit and Detroit should be just fine.

Get rid of Hudler for anything/anybody...

Try to go after Nabokov and that's it!

Do you understand what the salary cap is? Bieksa made $3.75m this season, and is due for more going forward.

Unless Lidstrom retires, there's no way we afford Bieksa or any legitimate top six players.

You guys should be looking at depth defensemen and depth forwards, rather than looking at top-tier talent. If we're going after top-tier talent, someone needs to go, like Franzen, Hudler, or Filppula.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:26 PM

Weber is a RFA if he's not resigned by 7/1, correct? Someone should throw a one year offer sheet that's ridiculous which Nash will obviously match. Then he's ripe for picking as a UFA for the Wings to sign long term after Nick retires following next season.

What if Nashville doesn't match the offer? Then the Wings are in a huge hole with a big salary and many first round picks given up. Also, Nashville will want to re-sign him for more than one year, which I believe they can do regardless of the offer-sheet given.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:27 PM

I'm glad 99% of you all aren't the GM. tatar a first liner next season? Thinking Suter will be remotely possible? Smith as a 7th DMan instead of a 1st pairing in GRap? McCollum as a back up? Just letting Ericsson go and not re-signing him as a cheap 5th/6th DMan? I could really go on, but come onnn lol.

Wings will sign an under-appreciated forward or two and a serviceable veteran DMan or two who haven't won anything and try to get him on the cheap.
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:35 PM

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:48 PM

Quick question, and not sure if this was mentioned already, but isn't the cap also supposed to be going up like 6 Mil because of the new TV contract, or is that not this season?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:51 PM

Quick question, and not sure if this was mentioned already, but isn't the cap also supposed to be going up like 6 Mil because of the new TV contract, or is that not this season?


January estimates were between 3-4 mil increase and with the new TV contract, projects are estimated around 4-6 mil.
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:52 PM

January estimates were between 3-4 mil increase and with the new TV contract, projects are estimated around 4-6 mil.

Aha alright, when do they announce it officially?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 03:01 PM

I'm glad 99% of you all aren't the GM. tatar a first liner next season? Thinking Suter will be remotely possible? Smith as a 7th DMan instead of a 1st pairing in GRap? McCollum as a back up? Just letting Ericsson go and not re-signing him as a cheap 5th/6th DMan? I could really go on, but come onnn lol.

Wings will sign an under-appreciated forward or two and a serviceable veteran DMan or two who haven't won anything and try to get him on the cheap.


I really hope they make some type of big splash, I am so tired of them playing it safe and not getting anywhere. The last two years they didn't have much cap space, but with a 5 million increase possible, some retirements, Lids possibly taking a minor pay cut, they could make a large move like they did 08/09, even if it doesn't work it will at least add some entertainment value.
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#33 Grayne Wetzky

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 03:44 PM

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 03:59 PM

I'm glad 99% of you all aren't the GM. tatar a first liner next season? Thinking Suter will be remotely possible? Smith as a 7th DMan instead of a 1st pairing in GRap? McCollum as a back up? Just letting Ericsson go and not re-signing him as a cheap 5th/6th DMan? I could really go on, but come onnn lol.

Wings will sign an under-appreciated forward or two and a serviceable veteran DMan or two who haven't won anything and try to get him on the cheap.


I don't understand why Suter is out of the question for the next offseason. My knowledge of the UFA/RFA section of hockey is very limited so I'm not attacking, merely asking, why that is so far out of the question.

I understand that he would more than likely to stay in Nashville but if they continue to go without a cup, I feel he would be more likely to go somewhere were a cup(s) have been already won for the chance. Loyalty is huge to these guys I understand, but having your name on that Cup is also something every team strives for.
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 04:35 PM

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 04:46 PM

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 05:00 PM

I don't understand why Suter is out of the question for the next offseason. My knowledge of the UFA/RFA section of hockey is very limited so I'm not attacking, merely asking, why that is so far out of the question.

I understand that he would more than likely to stay in Nashville but if they continue to go without a cup, I feel he would be more likely to go somewhere were a cup(s) have been already won for the chance. Loyalty is huge to these guys I understand, but having your name on that Cup is also something every team strives for.

Nashville is down 3-2 in their second round series, while the Wings are down 3-1. I don't see how Nashville is suddenly going to become a bottom-dwelling team, and why Suter would want to leave for a 'better' Wings team. Nashville is a legitimate (but boring offensively) team that could go far if they keep their D and add some offensive power.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 05:17 PM

I'm glad 99% of you all aren't the GM. tatar a first liner next season? Thinking Suter will be remotely possible? Smith as a 7th DMan instead of a 1st pairing in GRap? McCollum as a back up? Just letting Ericsson go and not re-signing him as a cheap 5th/6th DMan? I could really go on, but come onnn lol.

Wings will sign an under-appreciated forward or two and a serviceable veteran DMan or two who haven't won anything and try to get him on the cheap.

LOL yeah dude, we shouldn't make any moves. This team is perfect, maybe we can even bring Modano back too
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Posted 08 May 2011 - 11:56 PM

Realistically, we're looking at a 3rd pairing guy:

Shane O'Brien
Jim Vandermeer
Matt Greene
Ryan O'Byrne
Sheldon Brookbank
Matt Carkner
James Wisniewski(If the price is right......)
Jason Strudwick
Mark Stuart


Ideally, a younger guy like O'Brien would be higher on my list as opposed to another aging guy like Strudwick.
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