TheWolf 20 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Actually starting to hurt them? I kept waiting for it last year against the Sharks and it never happened. At some point when you keep diving the refs should become immune to it, or call it. The balance tips back in the favor of the non-diving team as the other team gets penalized for diving, real penalties get ignored, and players take themselves out of the play while they are lying on the ice. Late in the 3rd last night I kept seeing Sharks players going down, and no one caring. Perhaps this bodes well for the remainder of the series. What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danglesyuk05 3 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 It's entirely possible. The thing is, the players take themselves out of the play almost completely unless they have Helm like speed to recover. I keep seeing this guys flop every time a stick is around their feet in hopes of a call but it hasn't happened yet. I was watching the game with one of my roommates who isn't familiar with hockey and he asked me, "isn't there a penalty for flopping like Vladie Divac?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MGreenberg 105 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Too bad that their diving already helped them win game one but I do think it is starting to work against them which is a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinbin 3 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 and they're good at choking too! We're in their heads! 2 HadThomasVokounOnFortSt and Z and D for the C reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind 363 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Either that or a sniper's in the building. One with a gun, I mean. Not a hockey stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
softshoes 83 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Either that or a sniper's in the building. One with a gun, I mean. Not a hockey stick. When Thorton went down all I could think was Jesus Christ they have a grassy knoll in the Tank. 1 Jenny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 At times diving can take players out of the play but that only really matters if they dive at absolutely terrible times which doesnt happen too often. I think it's more of an advantage when teams start diving so much that it gets them off their game. Vancouver did it in Round 1 and focused more on that crap than playing their cycle game etc during games 4 and 5 and it cost them. Refs don't hand out too many diving calls so it's not a huge swing. Take the Thornton/Franzen play from last night. No way that should have been a penalty for each. That dive was flat out ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 I think they should make a rule change that basically states that if Team A slashes Team B and Team B embellishes, then the original penalty on team A is negated. Otherwise there really isn't much downside to diving. When teams start having to kill off diving penalties, it will be removed from the game pretty quickly. 3 HadThomasVokounOnFortSt, esteef and Triple Deke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Its mind blowing why these guys are so ready to dive when they get a chance. Hockey is a sport where the players take pride in their toughness by playing through injury, beating each other asses, etc. This diving business just makes these guys look like huge pussys. I just dont get it... 1 Triple Deke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 I think this should probably pull the reins back on everyone's "Thornton sure is a stellar playoff performer" thing now... I mean FFS was that ever a disgrace. Absolutely love JR's assessment of Marleau this series so far too. "GUTLESS". Yep, pretty much. But let's not wake a talented player, just thought it was quite fitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 The diving is out of control and I wish the refs called it more. I also wish the refs would undo their rectal-cranial inversion they seem to love so much, but one thing at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick D 350 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Integrity... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Thornton what's so funny? You guys choked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Thornton what's so funny? You guys choked. Looks like Champagne Joey T was "writhing in pain"..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 I'm ashamed of you Joe. Your coach looked rather embarrassed. And yet you laugh..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 I said it once I will say it again, Academy Award winning performances going on for them. Oh and after all this I have decided whoever likes the Sharks is a dismal failure of a hockey fan. 1 Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hak 21 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Joe's dive is one of the worst I have ever seen in hockey. I feel ashamed by watching the video God I hate diving.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Sample 31 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 I have lost almost a respect for San Jose. With the snowshowers, the diving, and Clowe running around punching players and the end of two games now. Joe Thornton is the leader of their team and he looked like a complete ******* last night. I wonder what is next? Coach Todd knows this is bulls*** so why dosen't he put a stop to it? If divin' Joe had his ass planted on the bench for a couple of shifts after that it would stop it all in a hurry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 The NHL needs to go back to regularly calling diving. Sometimes, it should be called by itself, without any offsetting penalties. That would deter players from diving any further. 1 Datsyuk Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 Cheap team, cheapest in the league. I said it before, I'm saying it now. They had gutless captain, but change it to diving captain... Not only their captain dives, but before diving he deliberately trips Franzen, very well knowing he has an injured ankle. Luck of respect to your fellow players is what in his blood. And it is hundred times worse than his diving antics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 I'm shocked that Campbell has actually addressed the issue. Though, he was probably threatening Vancouver and not San Jose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 I will guess there was a post game McLellan/Thornton meeting to find out what the hell he was thinking when he did it. Remember, your captain should lead by example. Come to think of it, in the San Jose's case... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MGreenberg 105 Report post Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) The Thornton dive was almost as good as this one Edited May 9, 2011 by MGreenberg 1 edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites