Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Ideally, Laich would be my top choice, but we all know Kenny isn't going to grossly overpay anyone. We all know he will be overpaid. TFP reported Edmonton could pursue him this summer. He's from Saskatchewan, maybe he'd like to play closer to home? I don't think anyone wants to play in Edmonton. 'Tis a horrid place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Do whatever it takes to get Webber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Do whatever it takes to get Webber Back to 2003 to draft him before Nashville! Get 'er done Kenny! 3 Detroit \# 1 Fan, stevkrause and MGreenberg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MGreenberg 105 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Back to 2003 to draft him before Nashville! Get 'er done Kenny! Lol, that is probably the only way we could get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) Do whatever it takes to get Webber He's even taller and heavier than Chara, and he's got great hands, but I'm pretty sure he retired. There was also all that nastiness with that booster at the University of Michigan... Edited May 30, 2011 by Crymson 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted May 30, 2011 He's even taller and heavier than Chara, and he's got great hands, but I'm pretty sure he retired. There was also all that nastiness with that booster at the University of Michigan... Plus he calls time-outs when his team doesn't have any left. Stay away Kenny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Back to 2003 to draft him before Nashville! Get 'er done Kenny! Los Angeles traded Matthieu Schneider to Detroit for Maxim Kuznetsov, Sean Avery, a 1st round pick in 2003 and a 2nd round pick in 2004. You had a nice thought there, but he'd have to go a little further back and NOT make this trade... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Los Angeles traded Matthieu Schneider to Detroit for Maxim Kuznetsov, Sean Avery, a 1st round pick in 2003 and a 2nd round pick in 2004. You had a nice thought there, but he'd have to go a little further back and NOT make this trade... Touche, but don't forget, that's only from the snowball that is this! Uwe Krupp July 7, 1998: Signed as a free agent by Detroit, July 7, 1998. He'd have to go back here first! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Los Angeles traded Matthieu Schneider to Detroit for Maxim Kuznetsov, Sean Avery, a 1st round pick in 2003 and a 2nd round pick in 2004. You had a nice thought there, but he'd have to go a little further back and NOT make this trade... That still happened in 2003. Gimme a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Los Angeles traded Matthieu Schneider to Detroit for Maxim Kuznetsov, Sean Avery, a 1st round pick in 2003 and a 2nd round pick in 2004. You had a nice thought there, but he'd have to go a little further back and NOT make this trade... The idea that Holland would definitely have chosen Weber with that pick is ridiculous, as is the idea that he "traded away Mike Green" in the Lang deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Los Angeles traded Matthieu Schneider to Detroit for Maxim Kuznetsov, Sean Avery, a 1st round pick in 2003 and a 2nd round pick in 2004. You had a nice thought there, but he'd have to go a little further back and NOT make this trade... Jokes on you guys, Weber was a second round pick.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Do whatever it takes to get Webber Didn't he retire? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Jokes on you guys, Weber was a second round pick.. Yes, but he was selected before Detroit picked in the second round, so Holland would have needed his first pick to select him.... OH and Crymson, the idea is knowing what we know now, Holland would use a time machine to go back and CHANGE history and draft Weber, since that is the only way he will be able to acquire him. Didn't you watch any of the movies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Yes, but he was selected before Detroit picked in the second round, so Holland would have needed his first pick to select him.... OH and Crymson, the idea is knowing what we know now, Holland would use a time machine to go back and CHANGE history and draft Weber, since that is the only way he will be able to acquire him. Didn't you watch any of the movies? Where is Chrostoper Lloyd when you need him? Back to the Future..."Kenny! The future! We have to go back to 2003 and draft Shea Weber! It could affect your whole team for the next 100 years!.: Kenny: Uh uh ok Doc but what do we do next Doc? Doc: Trade for Chris Webber Kenny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Well now that Winnipeg is looking to be a lock, we should target their RFA's. Perhaps some of them may not want to stay now that the team is relocating and perhaps the team won't battle as hard to keep them if an offer sheet comes in. Zach Bogosian - $3,375,000 Andrew Ladd - $2,350,000 Blake Wheeler - $2,200,000 Anthony Stewart - $632,500 I wouldn't mind picking off any of these guys. Most notably Bogo, but he may be one player that Winnipeg will not let go, of course. Adding in any of the listed forwards would be good for the Wings as I think they'd fit in nicely and add a little size, youthful enthusiasm, and scoring depth. What do you think, folks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Well now that Winnipeg is looking to be a lock, we should target their RFA's. Perhaps some of them may not want to stay now that the team is relocating and perhaps the team won't battle as hard to keep them if an offer sheet comes in. Zach Bogosian - $3,375,000 Andrew Ladd - $2,350,000 Blake Wheeler - $2,200,000 Anthony Stewart - $632,500 I wouldn't mind picking off any of these guys. Most notably Bogo, but he may be one player that Winnipeg will not let go, of course. Adding in any of the listed forwards would be good for the Wings as I think they'd fit in nicely and add a little size, youthful enthusiasm, and scoring depth. What do you think, folks? Can we PLEASE drop this crap already - Kenny will not go after a RFA... this is a moot point. furthermore, if anything, they're LESS likely to let their RFA's get away, since True North has deeper pockets and Manitoba is a better market, so this whole thought is beyond flawed on multiple levels... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,520 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 How about signing Bieksa or Wisniewski to shore up Rafalski's hole on D (both right handed shooters and point men on PP) and pursuing Brooks Laich or Andrew Ladd as a much needed addition to the top forward lines. Both Bieksa and Wiz make around 3.5 mil now and would want a raise, Laich and Ladd both make around 2.5 mil and would want a raise as well. All told, I think we could sign one of the defenseman and one forward for around 7 million, which is offset by Rafalski and Modano's contracts coming off the books. The team would look something like this (not married to these line combos but have to make due with what we've got considering the old guys are under contract and nobody is going to trade for Homer or Bertuzzi at this stage of the game). Zetterberg - Datysuk - Homer Ladd/Laich - Filpulla - Franzen Bertuzzi - Abdelkader - Cleary Eaves - Helm - Miller/Draper/Mursak Lidstrom - Stuart Kronwall - Wisniewski/Bieksa Kindl - Ericsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Can we PLEASE drop this crap already - Kenny will not go after a RFA... this is a moot point. furthermore, if anything, they're LESS likely to let their RFA's get away, since True North has deeper pockets and Manitoba is a better market, so this whole thought is beyond flawed on multiple levels... Hey if I wanted to sit here and state completely realistic possibilities, it would make for a very boring discussion, so why don't you take your pessimistic sensibilities and go annoy some other people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,520 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Hey if I wanted to sit here and state completely realistic possibilities, it would make for a very boring discussion, so why don't you take your pessimistic sensibilities and go annoy some other people. It's not unrealistic to think that we could send offer sheets on low end RFA's, but it is unrealistic to think we could do it for someone like Weber. Edited May 31, 2011 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Hey if I wanted to sit here and state completely realistic possibilities, it would make for a very boring discussion, so why don't you take your pessimistic sensibilities and go annoy some other people. On the other hand, I find unrealistic possibilities extremely boring as they will never come to fruition, so take your optimism and annoy some other people. 1 stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 On the other hand, I find unrealistic possibilities extremely boring as they will never come to fruition, so take your optimism and annoy some other people. Anything is possible... some people seem to forget this. Has Holland had any interest in doing this thus far? No. Certainly, certain circumstances could arise that make this kind of move a possibility for ANY team. Losing Rafalski and possibly losing Lidstrom also, are such circumstances. If you think, given these scenarios, that sending an offer sheet to an RFA is impossible/improbable, then you may need to check your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Hey if I wanted to sit here and state completely realistic possibilities, it would make for a very boring discussion, so why don't you take your pessimistic sensibilities and go annoy some other people. I think the vast majority here would agree with me... also realism ≠ pessimism There are plenty of UFA and trade options to discuss, so why dilute realistic discussions with impossible scenarios? Well were at it, lets discuss the option of trading Howard for Ryan Miller straight up... come on now... 1 ComradeWasabi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 On the other hand, I find unrealistic possibilities extremely boring as they will never come to fruition, so take your optimism and annoy some other people. New favorite poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Anything is possible... some people seem to forget this. Has Holland had any interest in doing this thus far? No. Certainly, certain circumstances could arise that make this kind of move a possibility for ANY team. Losing Rafalski and possibly losing Lidstrom also, are such circumstances. If you think, given these scenarios, that sending an offer sheet to an RFA is impossible/improbable, then you may need to check your head. yeah, lets not let something as silly as facts get in the way... http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/05/red_wings_ken_holland_not_apt.html point. set. match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 31, 2011 Anything is possible... some people seem to forget this. Has Holland had any interest in doing this thus far? No. Certainly, certain circumstances could arise that make this kind of move a possibility for ANY team. Losing Rafalski and possibly losing Lidstrom also, are such circumstances. If you think, given these scenarios, that sending an offer sheet to an RFA is impossible/improbable, then you may need to check your head. So Holland says he's not going to be stupid and waste vital assets on RFAs. The GMs of said RFAs say they'll match any and all offers. Yet, the realists on LGW are the ones who need to check their heads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites