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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:10 AM

Any way we can make Franzen a little more like Ryane Clowe?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:37 AM

Ive supported hudler ALL season. When everyone bashed him I still believed in him, but I think he was our worst player in the sharks series. Made several defensive mistakes that could have cost us games. So im finally on board with trading him.

Moving Salei, Ericsson would not break my heart. Ozzie should retire but I thought he said he wanted one more year. Homer and drapes will prob play another year. Unless they force drapes to minors like maltby. Then he may retire.

Hopefully lids take a huge cut, so we can sign a huge stay at home defense men or a lids replacement if there is such a thing.

I would love seeing parise. The guy is a darren helm with a scoring touch. Comes to play everyf****** night.

Realistically the only move I see is hudler going, and maybe somehow signing a top forward for a year like they did with hossa. Thats IF lids stays for the cup. I dont see many moves being made. Especially on defense. Babs loves salei. Id be very surprised if any moves were even made.

Im confident in howard. Mac did fine as a backup.

If anything invest in better equipment to limit the injures HA

That's my dream too. Imagine having him in this team? Freaking insane!!

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:48 AM

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Alex Tanguay ($1.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Michal Handzus ($4.000m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Tomas Tatar ($0.870m) / Zenon Konopka ($0.600m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.000m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Joni Pitkanen ($4.000m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Evgeni Nabokov ($0.570m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,602,878; BONUSES: $210,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $797,122



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That line up wouldnt get us past the 2nd round

Let's push for Tanguay, Frolov or Prospal.


We need a good 2nd line scorer!! Holland make it happen!


All three of those players make Franzen look tough. No thanks.

I wouldn't mind getting rid of Hudler, possibly Ericsson depending what he'd want, draper, miller possibly, ozzie doesnt rly matter because howies the starter anyways....i think much of our line up will stay the same.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:50 AM

Sign Michigan boy Wisniewski and 3rd/4th line center.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 04:36 AM

Sign a good defenseman and call up Mursak. Not sure what else they can do at this time until next off-season, barring a trade. Hopefully they can sign Laich or Handzus as well, but I doubt it.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 04:49 AM

Seems like a lot of people on here want to trade Hudler. Or rather, upgrade Hudler. But how much of a loyalty factor would prevent Kenny from actually doing it?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 04:56 AM

Seems like a lot of people on here want to trade Hudler. Or rather, upgrade Hudler. But how much of a loyalty factor would prevent Kenny from actually doing it?


hopefully as much loyalty as hudler showed when he bailed to the K for more $$$.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 06:36 AM

Sign Michigan boy Wisniewski and 3rd/4th line center.

You know what, I really like Wiz. He gets bagged a bit for his defence, and yet I saw a lot of him this season (was in my fantasy team) and I saw few signs of him being poor defensively. He had 30 points in 43 games with Montreal, was a +4, and had 16 PPP. I'd love him on the Wings, I really would. :thumbup:

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 07:46 AM

Jan Hejda - $2,000,000
Kent Huskins - $1,700,000
Shane O’Brien - $1,600,000
Steve Montador - $1,550,000
Radek Martinek - $1,500,000
Anton Babchuk - $1,400,000
Karlis Skrastins - $1,375,000
Adam Foote - $1,250,000
John Erskine - $1,250,000
Steve Eminger - $1,125,000
Andrew Alberts - $1,050,000
Brad Lukowich - $1,000,000
Sean O’Donnell - $1,000,000
Jonathan Ericsson - $900,000
Ruslan Salei - $750,000
Andy Greene - $738,000
Jason Strudwick - $725,000
Adam Pardy - $700,000
David Hale - $675,000
Jeff Woywitka - $650,000
Alexander Sulzer - $650,000
Jordan Hendry - $600,000
Peter Harrold - $583,000
Nathan Paetsch - $525,000
Jay Harrison - $500,000
Staffan Kronwall - $500,000
Derek Meech - $500,000
Clay Wilson - $500,000
Rob Davison - $500,000
Jay Leach - $500,000

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Free agent defensemen for 2011 with a current contract of 2mil and under.

Obviously we're looking for an upgrade for Salei and/or Ericsson.

I know some people here have already mentioned their dreams to acquire Shane O'Brien. Any other preference?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:14 AM

Seems like a lot of people on here want to trade Hudler. Or rather, upgrade Hudler. But how much of a loyalty factor would prevent Kenny from actually doing it?


It depends. It's likely Holland will want to give him an extra season to see what he has in him, but he may also realize the only chips we have to grab an impact winger is to package both together to clear space. It's a move he really should make, but I fear the Wings comeback might make him complacent and forget about all the obvious troubles the team had this year due to roster and defensive coach.

Free agent defensemen for 2011 with a current contract of 2mil and under.

Obviously we're looking for an upgrade for Salei and/or Ericsson.

I know some people here have already mentioned their dreams to acquire Shane O'Brien. Any other preference?


Erskine was a popular choice around here a while ago, wasn't he? I don't recall seeing him play outside of video games, though. Honestly, as long as the 5th or 6th d-man can block shots I don't care, I'm more interested in pulling in a big name to replace Lidstrom, or if he doesn't retire, paying for a solid 3rd or 4th d-man to play under Stuart and Kronwall for insane depth.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:17 AM

It depends. It's likely Holland will want to give him an extra season to see what he has in him...


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That's the impression I have as well. I can already see the season previews where Kenny says, "He struggled last season but we always like to give our players an opportunity" and bla bla bla.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:20 AM

predicted moves by holland:

bring draper back at a discount
bring osgood back at a discount
don't trade hudler
give ericsson a raise

makes me sick just thinking about it.

Helm is a perennial Selke candidate

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:26 AM

Free agent defensemen for 2011 with a current contract of 2mil and under.

Obviously we're looking for an upgrade for Salei and/or Ericsson.

I know some people here have already mentioned their dreams to acquire Shane O'Brien. Any other preference?


i heard he and bertuzzi are bffs.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:42 AM

The thought of this team coming back mostly intact makes me mental. Looking at this list of 2-mil and under free agents, that's a sad list.
In my opinion, we have to get younger, faster, and more physical. Not goonery, but harder to play against. More Helm-like. If I could give his motor to every player on the team...
Oh, yeah, and Hudler's gotta go. No more reclamation projects. I wanted to get James Neal at the trade deadline, young and fairly physical and loves to shoot the puck. we need more triggermen, less passers.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 11:26 AM

The thought of this team coming back mostly intact makes me mental. Looking at this list of 2-mil and under free agents, that's a sad list.
In my opinion, we have to get younger, faster, and more physical. Not goonery, but harder to play against. More Helm-like. If I could give his motor to every player on the team...
Oh, yeah, and Hudler's gotta go. No more reclamation projects. I wanted to get James Neal at the trade deadline, young and fairly physical and loves to shoot the puck. we need more triggermen, less passers.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 11:34 AM

Mursak will be on the roster. There's no question in my mind. There is a huge difference between where he is at and where Ritola was at and there is no way Holland let's another prospect walk. Modano is gone for sure. He will retire and even by some weird turn of events and he ends up playing there's just no way he is brought back into the mix here. He didn't mesh into the line up and the guy just doesnt have anything left in the tank. So there's your roster spot for Mursak.

The only way the Wings add a different look up front for another forward is if there is a suitable upgrade to be had over Miller or Draper. That is if Draper retires or there's a deal that just has to be done. I'd imagine we'll be seeing something like that includes a dream addition of a someone like Kevin Bieksa (which probably couldn't happen) but the point is they could upgrade a forward spot or a defensemen spot:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR (pretty conservative salaries)

FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m)
Drew Miller ($0.750m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.850m)
Kris Draper ($0.750m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.000m)
Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($1.500m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Chris Osgood($0.570m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,778,711; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $221,288
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 11:43 AM

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 11:45 AM

I don't see many changes happening this off-season. I think the Wings will keep a lot of flexibility for the 2011/2012 off season where we could see some major changes. I'd like to see the Wings get a little younger and a little harder to play against this off season (like many others on LGW) the Changes I would make:

Out: Modano, Draper, Salei
In: Wisniewski, and a third or fourth line forward like LaRose, Fiddler or Upshall

I think the emergence of Mursak/Tatar and Kindl/Smith will give us the depth we need.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:29 PM

Let me say thank you to the Wings. They did a good job all season long and I'm proud to be a Wings fan!

This offseason we need some changes.

What do you think?

- Lids has to stay for one more season

- Mo, Drapes, Osgood, Salei have to go

- Keep Joey Mac, he was fine for me

- Try to sell Hudler or Filppula, 3 M can be better used (buyout?)

- Re-sign Miller, Eaves, Ericcson

- We have at least 6.5 M left (if the cap doesn't change)... who would you acquire?


I can agree with this, but beef up the backup goaltending position, trade Hudler and KEEP ERICSSON. I know he get's a lot of flack on the forums, but he's going to be great. I thought he was fine. I would like to see Holland replace Salei with another top-4 shut down mean Stuart/Seabrook type d-man with the left over cap space.

If the cap goes up, Holland should invest in a top 6 two-way forward like a Mike Fisher.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:46 PM

Draper, Modano, Ericsson and Salei all let go. Trade Hudler for something if we can.

Smith to be on the team full-time next season, try and get a decent bottom 3 defencemen with the money we have freed up.


I'm not trying to single out your post, I've seen this posted a few times... Smith is not ready for the NHL. He's 2-years away from cracking the big league. I watched him in Grand Rapids, and he's not living up to the hype. He's overrated right now. He makes lots of bone head plays...and I don't expect him to be nothing more than a Kronwall lite at the peak of his career. What I am trying to say is he's not the 'savior' that everyone wants to believe.

Ericsson should be re-signed on the cheap... say $1.25 mil per. He shouldn't be the scape goat of the team, he's been very serviceable in a salary cap world. I remember Jiri Fischer was a bone head too at times. Fischer use to make me cringe like Ericsson has made me do... difference is Ericsson will come a lot cheaper and still has upside.





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