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#621 Never_Retire_Steve

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 11:50 PM

And how exactly are we getting screwed by Rafalski? and what does it have to do with long term deals???? If anything, he bowed out with dignity and gave us cap relief, since he was not worth what he was making anymore...part of the advantage of signing players long term before they're 35...


Because, as a GM you base a lot of your signings based on your current roster and most good GMs have a game plan with how they piece together a team. Rafalski suddenly retiring definitely throws a wrench into things that forces the Wings into a position that they were not expecting and forces them to change their initial plan.

:blink: Did someone just tune in? We've got it all figured out, just waiting for Holland to call us back....


??????


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 11:52 PM

Let's go over your idea:

We give away: Our only pure goal-scorer, a big power forward capable of 30-40 goals yearly and on a very fair contract, in a year when there are virtually zero pure goal-scorers available in the FA pool; a young offensive defenseman with a lot of potential; and two high draft picks at a time when we need to be continuously developing new players.

We receive: A defenseman who is on the last year of his contract and could thus bolt at the end of the season for any of numerous reasons, such as: because he doesn't like the team; because he wants to play elsewhere; because he gets a better offer elsewhere; because he doesn't like the city; etc.

Do you not see why that's an awful idea?

Edit: I think you're dreaming if you think that someone won't offer Brad Richards significantly more than $7m per year.


Alright thats fair. But the opposite stands that Richards may take a slight cut in pay to come to Detroit. I dont see him getting 8mil from anyone worth going to. 7mil cap hit is pretty decent coin considering Crosby is at 8.7mil and Dat is at 6.7mil and I'd obviously go with a front loaded contract for around 5-6 years. The other thing is I set the Cap at 62.2 mill which is modest, and there was 1 mill left over. Some sources have the cap going up even 1 mill more than that. There may be more money to go around, i have no idea what Richards is thinking.

Second, I don't see why Burns would dislike Detroit, and the whole idea was that when Lids retired we could offer him that big contract for long term with Lids salary. I am proposing that Burns would replace Lids' salary the next season. I don't see why he would want to test free agency. There is that risk, but I think he'd probably stick around as we can promise him a great salary and we have a great group of guys and a lot of players want to play here due to our treatment of players.

Finally, we do have some goal scorers on that roster. Franzen only put up 28 this year i believe and 5 were in one game. I'm just saying that he spends a lot of time injured and he's just young enough that if we wanted to move him we still could. And with signing other guys like Burns, Kronner, Stewie, Richards to longish contracts it might be a decent idea to move him. There are guys that can put the puck in the net on that roster. Z,Dats,Richards,Cleary,Jokinen,Fil can all put up 20 at least. I also think Helm will surprise us and pot 15+ this season and Bert will chip in too. The problem is when we rely on Franzen to score all the goals and then he gets injured for a month. I get that its nice to have a guy that can do that, but with less pressure on guys like Z and Flip to center lines they could score more goals. I had Homer listed last not because I thought he should sit, just because I wanted to slot guys into their places (LW,C,RW) yes he can play RW but the lines looked more impressive the way i had it. Just think we need to experiment with somebody other than homer on the top line.

But heck, thats my two cents. Holland said he'd be open to making a trade to replace Rafalski. I think Burns, who shoots right and is young, big, and physical is a great option. Its not like im saying lets get Weber or Doughty, I'm proposing something that has at least some potential.

Edited by dirtydangles, 11 June 2011 - 12:30 AM.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 11:55 PM

Because, as a GM you base a lot of your signings based on your current roster and most good GMs have a game plan with how they piece together a team. Rafalski suddenly retiring definitely throws a wrench into things that forces the Wings into a position that they were not expecting and forces them to change their initial plan.



??????

Really, that's what you do as a GM? I wasn't aware you had experience in an NHL front office... are you interviewing anywhere, or currently employed?

The writing was on the wall about Raffi since last year and although unexpected at this exact time, this would have been the last year of his deal anyway, his body was breaking down and he actually did the Wings a favor, as he was not worth his contract anymore... also, a good GM's "plan" is not set until the end of camp and even then its never fully set, if a GM stops looking at different possible scenarios, he's stopped doing his job. There is zero chance that the Wings front office is unprepared for this...

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

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Holland is a damn good GM. period.


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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:08 AM

Really, that's what you do as a GM? I wasn't aware you had experience in an NHL front office... are you interviewing anywhere, or currently employed?

The writing was on the wall about Raffi since last year and although unexpected at this exact time, this would have been the last year of his deal anyway, his body was breaking down and he actually did the Wings a favor, as he was not worth his contract anymore... also, a good GM's "plan" is not set until the end of camp and even then its never fully set, if a GM stops looking at different possible scenarios, he's stopped doing his job. There is zero chance that the Wings front office is unprepared for this...


Seriously? You don't think a GM bases contracts based on who is signed for how long, by position, age, etc.?

Actually I do have some experience in managing hockey (Clearly not NHL but Junior) and ya, you are right. A GM never stops looking at possible scenarios and in some respects they are prepared for things like injuries/retirements/trade requests that affect their personnel but to say that these do not affect the direction of a team is short-sighted. I don't think it's that big of a deal because Raffi wasn't worth his contract but it puts the Wings in a tough position in the short term having to fill that void and reshape their D corps based on his retirement. It's not like it's easy to just ****** up FAs or slot in players from the farm system. It's not like Holland is sitting there thinking... "Thank god Raffi retired, now we can just go sign Shea Weber to replace him!"

Who knows, long term this could be a beneficial thing to happen but now having to go out and fill another roster spot is not an ideal situation.

Clearly, I should've indicated that when I said "kinda screwed" that I meant it made the offseason decisions tougher not that him retiring hurts the team.


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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:21 AM

Seriously? You don't think a GM bases contracts based on who is signed for how long, by position, age, etc.?

Actually I do have some experience in managing hockey (Clearly not NHL but Junior) and ya, you are right. A GM never stops looking at possible scenarios and in some respects they are prepared for things like injuries/retirements/trade requests that affect their personnel but to say that these do not affect the direction of a team is short-sighted. I don't think it's that big of a deal because Raffi wasn't worth his contract but it puts the Wings in a tough position in the short term having to fill that void and reshape their D corps based on his retirement. It's not like it's easy to just ****** up FAs or slot in players from the farm system. It's not like Holland is sitting there thinking... "Thank god Raffi retired, now we can just go sign Shea Weber to replace him!"

Who knows, long term this could be a beneficial thing to happen but now having to go out and fill another roster spot is not an ideal situation.

Clearly, I should've indicated that when I said "kinda screwed" that I meant it made the offseason decisions tougher not that him retiring hurts the team.

I agree with this. Of course a GM has plans for when certain guys will be replaced and the contract length reflects that. Rafi retiring really put a dent in us. I hate the fact that we have so much wiggle room. Its fun to dream, but its going to end up being disappointing when Holland doesn't make any big splashes. I was happy with the extra cap we had plus the cap going up, i didn't really want 6 mill from rafi. Thats way too much to play with, so too many options. I think Holland wanted to make one or two changes this offseason to make next years easier. Now he has to be careful making rash decisions, decisions which I think would be exciting but kinda stupid in the long run (all the trades i propose are pretty rash). The more changes you make the more unpredictable the result will be. The timelines for guys moving on are kinda screwed by this a bit, Kenny prolly had some sort of plan worked out that now has to be completely rethought. Lids not knowing yet if he is gonna return makes it a little harder too.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 01:04 AM

Second, I don't see why Burns would dislike Detroit, and the whole idea was that when Lids retired we could offer him that big contract for long term with Lids salary. I am proposing that Burns would replace Lids' salary the next season. I don't see why he would want to test free agency. There is that risk, but I think he'd probably stick around as we can promise him a great salary and we have a great group of guys and a lot of players want to play here due to our treatment of players.


There is absolutely no way to be confident of this to the extent sufficient to give up so many assets for Burns-- especially since we could simply nab him off the FA list a year later. Hell, I wouldn't even trade those assets for him if we could be sure.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 01:30 AM

I agree with this. Of course a GM has plans for when certain guys will be replaced and the contract length reflects that. Rafi retiring really put a dent in us. I hate the fact that we have so much wiggle room. Its fun to dream, but its going to end up being disappointing when Holland doesn't make any big splashes. I was happy with the extra cap we had plus the cap going up, i didn't really want 6 mill from rafi. Thats way too much to play with, so too many options. I think Holland wanted to make one or two changes this offseason to make next years easier. Now he has to be careful making rash decisions, decisions which I think would be exciting but kinda stupid in the long run (all the trades i propose are pretty rash). The more changes you make the more unpredictable the result will be. The timelines for guys moving on are kinda screwed by this a bit, Kenny prolly had some sort of plan worked out that now has to be completely rethought. Lids not knowing yet if he is gonna return makes it a little harder too.


i agree. i think holland will be very careful of the decisions he makes. especially with this particular FA class, as it is not the best class ever. at this point hes got to rethink his plan and make some small but masterful moves.

personally, id replace raffi with wisniewski and give kindl (or maybe even smith) saleis spot. then id wait to add a forward and another defensemen till next year..... although i am partial to wolski trying his luck here. if wolski turns out to be a dud and wisniewski a fluke, theres always next year. patience is key. i dont think theyll be a a cup in detroit next year as some have already predicted, but retooling for coming seasons is what needs to be done. patience.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 02:06 AM

If the player is young or hitting their prime, the Wings won't trade or sign them because it'd cost too much to get them and Holland doesn't mortgage the future.

Think of projects like Cleary or Miller or guys like Rafalski who came here. Burns, Doughty etc won't be coming here until they get their big big payday and finish those contracts and come looking for a cup after they already got their money.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 02:08 AM

Seriously? You don't think a GM bases contracts based on who is signed for how long, by position, age, etc.?

Actually I do have some experience in managing hockey (Clearly not NHL but Junior) and ya, you are right. A GM never stops looking at possible scenarios and in some respects they are prepared for things like injuries/retirements/trade requests that affect their personnel but to say that these do not affect the direction of a team is short-sighted. I don't think it's that big of a deal because Raffi wasn't worth his contract but it puts the Wings in a tough position in the short term having to fill that void and reshape their D corps based on his retirement. It's not like it's easy to just ****** up FAs or slot in players from the farm system. It's not like Holland is sitting there thinking... "Thank god Raffi retired, now we can just go sign Shea Weber to replace him!"

Who knows, long term this could be a beneficial thing to happen but now having to go out and fill another roster spot is not an ideal situation.

Clearly, I should've indicated that when I said "kinda screwed" that I meant it made the offseason decisions tougher not that him retiring hurts the team.


Rafalski's decision didn't screw the Wings other than to throw a wrench into their roster for next season, and make the FA season more important. But his retirement means they should have a defenseman of similar skill level signed past next season going INTO next season. Previously, Lidstrom (if retained), Rafalski, Kronwall, and Stuart would all have turned UFA next summer. That's potential for complete turnover and possibly serious destruction of the defensive unit. Rafalski's retirement plus significant cap space now means the Wings can easily avoid that scenario.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 02:14 AM

If the player is young or hitting their prime, the Wings won't trade or sign them because it'd cost too much to get them and Holland doesn't mortgage the future.

Think of projects like Cleary or Miller or guys like Rafalski who came here. Burns, Doughty etc won't be coming here until they get their big big payday and finish those contracts and come looking for a cup after they already got their money.


If he's replacing a player who made similar money and was similar skill or worse, but ten to fifteen years older... why not? Because? You underestimate the power of the... Ken Holland.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 02:47 AM

I want these super long term deals to end. We're getting kinda screwed by Rafalski and I really am worried what would happen if Dats/Z/or Franzen ever got injured. Also we need some speed and youth on the back end. Lidstrom retiring is really going to suck for this organization and we have to start developing/sign replacements for him


Those days are gone. Holland was one, if not the first, to use long contracts for a salary cap benefit. Now since New Jersey, Philly and Chicago ruined it by going to extremes, long term contracts are less attractive. I bet we'll see fewer long term contracts this season.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 03:31 AM

Edit: I think you're dreaming if you think that someone won't offer Brad Richards significantly more than $7m per year.


The word is he is seeking a five year+ deal in the range of 6.5-7.0 Million.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 03:38 AM

Those days are gone. Holland was one, if not the first, to use long contracts for a salary cap benefit. Now since New Jersey, Philly and Chicago ruined it by going to extremes, long term contracts are less attractive. I bet we'll see fewer long term contracts this season.


I disagree. It depends only on how the player turns out. If anything it seems more attractive when you can bounce the player to the AHL.

Look at what even a six year deal has done for Pavel. Made him a steal at his current salary due to inflation. Same goes for Zetter. I remember the same being said for Kronners contract. Franzen might be the illustration of how it didn't work if he remains inconsistent, but it is still a good deal as of right now. Rafalski himself looked like a bad signing in terms of being expensive, but good in terms of talent. In a few years it was a friggin steal. If he signed a deal and became UFA when Campbell did... Could you imagine us signing him back for 8 million?!?!

It has worked out for many teams, and there are just as many teams where it was a huge bust.

Most of them have circumvented this problem or dealt with it. It comes down to how the player turns out, which is how any contract really works. It seems pretty clear that overpaying is a problem that becomes less noticeable over time. I would like to see more of the clear cut bluechips signed to age 37. I know if Helm wants that term for somewhere around 2-2.75 Million, I would take it in a heartbeat. It will eventually be a steal.

Edited by Majsheppard, 11 June 2011 - 03:40 AM.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 10:35 AM

The word is he is seeking a five year+ deal in the range of 6.5-7.0 Million.


No, the word is that he's seeking something in the range of $64m over eight years. It's not like he's going to be taking a paycut when he's the #1 free agent forward of the offseason.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 11:18 AM

No, the word is that he's seeking something in the range of $64m over eight years. It's not like he's going to be taking a paycut when he's the #1 free agent forward of the offseason.


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Posted 11 June 2011 - 11:42 AM


If he's replacing a player who made similar money and was similar skill or worse, but ten to fifteen years older... why not? Because? You underestimate the power of the... Ken Holland.


I'd never underestimate the power of a Jedi Master.

Let's offer six million for Weber or Doughty. What happens? The other teams match. We offer 6 mil for Burns. What happens? They don't match, we lose 4 first rounders and drastically overpaid for an above average defenseman.

Holland offers 6 mil (total) for two top 4 UFA DMen. What happens? We get two good DMen without giving up any assets. Plus, you're also assuming that the players we'd make offers for are of equal skill or better when in reality only one is. The rest are worst.
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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:08 PM

I think the cap size will factor in considerably in determining our off-season moves. I'm not a personal fan of going after a big name RFA... That's just wayyyyyyyyy too much to compensate. I wouldn't mind something like this... Give or take a few work-arounds. Again, this is my ideal image.. I'm sure everybody has one, right?:

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Teemu Selanne ($4.500m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($5.400m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
James Wisniewski ($3.250m) / Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)

SALARY CAP: $63,500,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,417,044; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $82,956

I know... I know... It's a long shot. All these UFA signings are based upon last year's contracts... Sans Lids. The Finnish Flash is going to have to take less since he'll turn 41, but he still had an impressive year. Everybody else, I see roughly making the same... This is not even considering diving into the farm, (Smith, Emmerton, Mursak, etc.) The weakest link in this group now? As much as I liked him before he went to the K, it's now obviously HUDLER.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:23 PM

I think the cap size will factor in considerably in determining our off-season moves. I'm not a personal fan of going after a big name RFA... That's just wayyyyyyyyy too much to compensate. I wouldn't mind something like this... Give or take a few work-arounds. Again, this is my ideal image.. I'm sure everybody has one, right?:

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Teemu Selanne ($4.500m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($5.400m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.100m)
James Wisniewski ($3.250m) / Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)

SALARY CAP: $63,500,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,417,044; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $82,956

I know... I know... It's a long shot. All these UFA signings are based upon last year's contracts... Sans Lids. The Finnish Flash is going to have to take less since he'll turn 41, but he still had an impressive year. Everybody else, I see roughly making the same... This is not even considering diving into the farm, (Smith, Emmerton, Mursak, etc.) The weakest link in this group now? As much as I liked him before he went to the K, it's now obviously HUDLER.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:32 PM

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:56 PM

We offer 6 mil for Burns. What happens? They don't match, we lose 4 first rounders and drastically overpaid for an above average defenseman.


Actually, 6m would be a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd. I'd trade those assets for a year of Burns and a chance to have him on the team/possibly re-sign him.

But uh, Burns isn't RFA this offseason (and he's UFA next).

I think the cap size will factor in considerably in determining our off-season moves. I'm not a personal fan of going after a big name RFA... That's just wayyyyyyyyy too much to compensate. I wouldn't mind something like this... Give or take a few work-arounds. Again, this is my ideal image.. I'm sure everybody has one, right?:


Here's what I saw when I read the cap numbers of that roster:

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / lolwut
lolomgwtfbbq / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($5.400m) / lmfao
rofl / lol
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)

SALARY CAP: $63,500,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,417,044; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $82,956


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