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#21 Nhurdi

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:43 PM

Anyone interested in Curtis Glencross. I think he could be had for a good price and seems like he may be a good fit. Granted I don't know everything about the guy but he seems like a realistic opportunity.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:47 PM

Anyone interested in Curtis Glencross. I think he could be had for a good price and seems like he may be a good fit. Granted I don't know everything about the guy but he seems like a realistic opportunity.


Yes. He adds speed, size, grit and some scoring touch. Would be a good pickup

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:49 PM

Anyone interested in Curtis Glencross. I think he could be had for a good price and seems like he may be a good fit. Granted I don't know everything about the guy but he seems like a realistic opportunity.


He wouldn't be a bad fit, but the Wings need more wingers and not more centers.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:50 PM

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Ville Leino ($0.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Jussi Jokinen ($1.700m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Shea Weber ($6.500m)
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,500,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,300,377; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $199,623

Eh, I don't know just messing around with the cap calculator.

Edited by MGreenberg, 13 May 2011 - 01:51 PM.


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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:55 PM

He wouldn't be a bad fit, but the Wings need more wingers and not more centers.


I thought he was a winger?

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Ville Leino ($0.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Jussi Jokinen ($1.700m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Shea Weber ($6.500m)
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,500,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,300,377; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $199,623

Eh, I don't know just messing around with the cap calculator.


Sorry not getting Leino for 800K thats for sure. Although I would take that team in a heart beat

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:56 PM

To my understanding he is a LW/C. At least that is what TSN has him listed as.

I thought he was a winger?



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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:58 PM

Sorry not getting Leino for 800K thats for sure. Although I would take that team in a heart beat


Well if Nick takes something like five million instead you add that to Leino.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:00 PM

Well if Nick takes something like five million instead you add that to Leino.


Knowing Philly can't sign Leino do you think they would take his rights for Hudler on draft day?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:01 PM

I actually really agree with this post. Bert isn't so bad as he still posseses good skils and shows he can skate at times i just feel Homer is really hurting this lineup because he hurts what the top line wants to do, but also hurts what third and 4th lines want to do. We need a big physical 3rd line center that has decent offense, and is a good shutdown man. We need a guy like Manny Malholtra- Not sure who plays like him that is available. Any suggestions?


I thought that Homer and Bert's inability to skate with the forwards on san jose's top lines really created a lot of openings for them; and I also thought that their lack of open-ice playmaking skills killed pav, hank, mule and co. at times. If I'm Babs, I'm burrying both on the 4th line next season...saving Homer for the PP...and hoping that Bert drops the gloves more often. Then I'm not resigning either after next season.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:06 PM

Knowing Philly can't sign Leino do you think they would take his rights for Hudler on draft day?


I don't know if any team would want Hudler right now, lol. But if the Wings could swap and get Leino back, it would be an improvement.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:09 PM

I don't know if any team would want Hudler right now, lol. But if the Wings could swap and get Leino back, it would be an improvement.


If only he would work on his skting and actually work hard. Cause man Hudler has ALOT of talent

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:20 PM

Even though it's pretty saddening to think about right after the season ends...here's my dream, absolutely unrealistic roster for next season.

1. ) Trade Hudler for a bag of pucks.

2.) Let Ericsson, Miller and Modano go. (I like Miller, but I think Emmerton and Mursak can't clear waivers anymore. And I don't think Miller's shown quite enough to warrant giving up either of those two guys)

3.) Lidstrom doesn't retire. And he takes a nice discount to stay for $4.75M. How insulting is it that Rafalski would make over a million more in this case? But, I don't Nick would care.

4.) Let Osgood return as back-up if he wants to. I think we owe him that much. Draper can come back if he understands he may be in a Maltby type situation. Both of them can take $650K to help out the team.

5.) Resign Eaves for a few years at around $950K.

6.) Add a cheap veteran defenseman for $750K. I wouldn't be totally against it being Salei again.

Now for the unrealistic parts....

7.) Sign injury-prone Simon Gagne to a one year $5.75M deal. I don't think he'll leave Tampa and Yzerman or be willing to take a one-year deal, but I would kick the tires if he hits free agency. Maybe he'll make a Hossa-like contract decision and actually show up for our playoffs. He's always had rotten luck with injuries, but I think he would fit nicely in our top six with his speed and great defensive play. He could work well on Datsyuk or Zetterberg's wing and maybe revive some of the goal scoring ability he had with Forsberg.

8.) Sign Kevin Bieksa to a multi-year deal at $4.5M per. Either VAN resigns him or other teams will probably dramatically overpay. But, if he's willing to come here for around $4.5, it may be worth it with Rafalski's contract coming off the books after next season.


This would leave the lineup as follows.

FORWARDS
Simon Gagne ($5.750m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.950m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
/ Kris Draper ($0.650m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($4.750m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.500m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m)
Veteran ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Chris Osgood ($0.650m)

The total cap hit would be a shade over 63 million. So this dream would assume the cap jumps to at least $63.5 million

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:22 PM

I would give Hudler the ultimatum, work hard in the first few games of next season or watch from the presser until he can be traded, or his contract is up. When he isn't floating he has the talent to be a difference maker, but again he actually has to be not floating. As I have said in other threads the wings need to sure up the second line (either getting a center and moving Flip to wing, or getting a good winger) and keeping D and Z together, and getting a good defenseman like Wiz or Joni Pik to give the wings a lot of options for D pairings and a bit more leeway for Lids (who will be coming back, but will play less minutes).
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 02:39 PM

Assuming Modano,Ericsson, and Salei are gone, Hudler gets traded (Pretty please),and Draper takes a pay cut to stick around:

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:36 PM

What are your guys opinion of Maxime Talbot and Pascal Dupuis? (they are both UFA's)

I'd like to Wisniewski to come in Salei's place, maybe another cheaper vet to take Ericsson's place, then have Smith on board. I am not sure I am sold on Kindl, if you could package him and Hudler for some help or even draft picks, that would be fine with me...

Then again I heard about a trade rumor involving HUdler and Ericsson to Atlanta, but I forgot who it was for in return...

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 03:57 PM

What are your guys opinion of Maxime Talbot and Pascal Dupuis? (they are both UFA's)

I'd like to Wisniewski to come in Salei's place, maybe another cheaper vet to take Ericsson's place, then have Smith on board. I am not sure I am sold on Kindl, if you could package him and Hudler for some help or even draft picks, that would be fine with me...

Then again I heard about a trade rumor involving HUdler and Ericsson to Atlanta, but I forgot who it was for in return...


Not really a fan of those two, not just because they are Penguins but I think that there are better players available. I wouldn't mind dropping Ericsson for Wisnieski and the Ericsson/Hudler to Atlanta was for Zach Bogosian.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 04:02 PM

Brad Richards, Brooks Laich, Alex Tanguay, Michael Ryder (if he takes a nice hair cut), James Wisniewski, Joni Pitkanen, Alex Auld.

This is the list of players I could see fitting into the wings nicely and adding something they lack. Obviously not all of them, but, 1-2 could really help in my mind.

Laich, Ryder and Wiz all fill a need and could be affordable. Laich would give us fantastic center depth, Ryder is a pure trigger man which we could use more of, plus with Datsyuk feeding him 30 goals is not impossible. And then Wiz is a mean defenceman who's great on the PP and can move the puck. I'd be in favor :siren:

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 05:08 PM

I can't believe so many want Leino back. The guy is not a hard worker, has trouble focusing, and pretty much hates (or at least really dislikes) Detroit. Recipe for disaster.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 05:38 PM

I can't believe so many want Leino back. The guy is not a hard worker, has trouble focusing, and pretty much hates (or at least really dislikes) Detroit. Recipe for disaster.


hudler would be putting up the exact same numbers in philly, maybe better - playing with stars, floating around, not having to play d.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 06:17 PM

What are your guys opinion of Maxime Talbot and Pascal Dupuis? (they are both UFA's)

I'd like to Wisniewski to come in Salei's place, maybe another cheaper vet to take Ericsson's place, then have Smith on board. I am not sure I am sold on Kindl, if you could package him and Hudler for some help or even draft picks, that would be fine with me...

Then again I heard about a trade rumor involving HUdler and Ericsson to Atlanta, but I forgot who it was for in return...


That's a big NO on Talbot. He's a classless punk and a total diver. Definitely not Red Wings material.

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