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#41 eva unit zero

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:08 AM

Maybe if he were a better player, he'd get these promotions. :thumbup:


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Posted 16 May 2011 - 01:26 AM


I cut it to 33 to make it comparable to the earlier Hudler/Filppula comparison... 33 is the games played difference between the two. Guess that didn't translate.

But no, definitely, Modano should not have played. In the games he did play, he shouldn't have.

It should have been Mursak instead. Could have gone with:

Hudler/Zetterberg/Abdelkader
Holmstrom/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi
Cleary/Filppula/Mursak
Draper/Helm/Eaves

Two quick checking lines with puck skills. Hmmmm....


I completely agree. Mursak brings more speed, offensive upside, defense and forchecking than Modano does. But I can kind of understand them not wanting to hurt Modano's pride anymore by having Mursak play ahead of him, plus the likelihood of them wanting to get Mursak some more NHL time before throwing him into a situation like that.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 01:30 AM

Sorry if this has been covered already but I'm really confused as to why he was a healthy scratch 9 out of 11 games? It just doesn't make sence to me at all, Abby or Miller both could/should have been benched for Modano. He's just a different kind of player, goals were what we needed and Mo never had a chance to prove he was worthy. Is this Babcocks "American" dislike we have heard about? I just find some of the choices Babs made this year questionable is all.

If you saw him play you wouldn't be asking this.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 11:48 AM

Sorry if this has been covered already but I'm really confused as to why he was a healthy scratch 9 out of 11 games? It just doesn't make sence to me at all, Abby or Miller both could/should have been benched for Modano. He's just a different kind of player, goals were what we needed and Mo never had a chance to prove he was worthy. Is this Babcocks "American" dislike we have heard about? I just find some of the choices Babs made this year questionable is all.


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Posted 16 May 2011 - 11:53 AM

Sorry if this has been covered already but I'm really confused as to why he was a healthy scratch 9 out of 11 games? It just doesn't make sence to me at all, Abby or Miller both could/should have been benched for Modano. He's just a different kind of player, goals were what we needed and Mo never had a chance to prove he was worthy. Is this Babcocks "American" dislike we have heard about? I just find some of the choices Babs made this year questionable is all.

Like Modano, Abby and Miller are both American.

Edited by haroldsnepsts, 16 May 2011 - 11:54 AM.


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Posted 16 May 2011 - 11:00 PM

Like Modano, Abby and Miller are both American.


And from Michigan. Maybe Babcock has a thing against Americans if they didn't play college hockey?

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 03:29 AM

ut no, definitely, Modano should not have played. In the games he did play, he shouldn't have.

It should have been Mursak instead. Could have gone with:

Hudler/Zetterberg/Abdelkader
Holmstrom/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi
Cleary/Filppula/Mursak
Draper/Helm/Eaves

Two quick checking lines with puck skills. Hmmmm....

Now that I completely agree with. To me we should’ve had Mursak up all season; playing Modano was a waste of time when it could’ve been better spent on getting Mursak more quickly up to speed.

Edited by Aussie_Wing, 17 May 2011 - 03:29 AM.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:21 AM


And from Michigan. Maybe Babcock has a thing against Americans if they didn't play college hockey?


Did Rafalski play college? He's popular with Babcock.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:22 AM

i think if Mo could have stayed healthy all year, he could have made a big difference in the regular season and playoffs.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:41 AM

Did Rafalski play college? He's popular with Babcock.


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Posted 27 May 2011 - 03:52 PM

I understand the criticism of coming off of a long injury and being a guy whom had to adjust to a new system at the end of his career. Even for a hometown kid.

I'd like to simply mention that Mike was always an almost a point a game guy against San Jose, whom he used to play and beat all the time. Great opponent for him. And he was always good on faceoffs.

Modano's faceoff percentage in the playoffs was higher than any other Detroit team member in the 2011 playoffs. Modano won 67% of the faceoffs he took in 9 minutes of play in Game 6 and registered three shots on net.

It was a mistake not to use him in Game 7. I believe it would have made the difference with San Jose. (How many faceoffs were lost in Game 7?).

And Detroit's overall discipline would've made for a better series opponent for Vancouver.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 05:18 PM

I understand the criticism of coming off of a long injury and being a guy whom had to adjust to a new system at the end of his career. Even for a hometown kid.

I'd like to simply mention that Mike was always an almost a point a game guy against San Jose, whom he used to play and beat all the time. Great opponent for him. And he was always good on faceoffs.

Modano's faceoff percentage in the playoffs was higher than any other Detroit team member in the 2011 playoffs. Modano won 67% of the faceoffs he took in 9 minutes of play in Game 6 and registered three shots on net.

It was a mistake not to use him in Game 7. I believe it would have made the difference with San Jose. (How many faceoffs were lost in Game 7?).

And Detroit's overall discipline would've made for a better series opponent for Vancouver.

I can understand what you mean about what Mo brought offensively, especially given the Red Wings lacked on the power play, however, Mo was quite a defensive liability against the Sharks grit and size, looked hobbled, and surely something the Sharks would have taken advantage of. I don't believe it's a fair assessment to think of the series as ending differently if Mo played Game 7.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 07:18 PM

Mo looked like he was about to die damn near after every shift. Hell even after one good burst of speed that was it for him. His stamina was a major concern I think for Babs.





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