Guest Grayne Wetzky Report post Posted May 15, 2011 CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR FORWARDS Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m) Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Jaromir Jagr ($5.000m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.870m) Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) Patrick Eaves ($0.750m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom ($5.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m) Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Ruslan Salei ($1.000m) Logan Pyett ($0.950m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Thomas McCollum ($0.816m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,745,377; BONUSES: $210,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $454,623 I wonder if Lidstrom and Jagr would be willing to take about 2 million less than they are worth on the open market. Probably not, but is there a way the Wings could get Jagr? 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and Legendary D In 03 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 He doesn't seem like the type who would even be interested in the Wings. But that's just how I perceive him. Who knows what he really thinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 Yes. If this was 2004 and there was no salary cap. 8 Konnan511, lookalive07, Shaman and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 Oh God no. 5 Chris Avram, lookalive07, Electrophile and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 are team already stays at a retirement home right? They just have one of those old person buses shuttle back and fourth to the joe. Thats why we dont fight or anything, dont wanna break a hip. HE WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION!!! 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 Unless its for under a million (which wont happen) then no thank you. 1 Bradster1984 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itchin' to go 16 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 No he's the last thing the wings need. You also have Lidstrom listed at 5mil and Rafalski listed at 6mil.....Not happening. Ryan 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 It what alternate dimension is Jagr worth 5 MIL in 2011?? I love Jammy, but he's not what we need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted May 15, 2011 Please no Jagr on the Wings. Let the Pens have him back ffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted May 15, 2011 He was a good player but overpaid and like Fedorov and Kovalev way too prone to spells of underachieving, not the kind of guy that looks like he'd be what the Wings look for on the ice or in the locker room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 No more 34+ past their primes experiments please. We have a couple of young guys ready for full time roles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Word has it the Penguins are going to try for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) Word has it the Penguins are going to try for him. Any chance Lemieux and Lang come back, to form the greatest top 6 in NHL history? Edited May 16, 2011 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Oh hell no. Run as fast as you can the other way from this one. He'd be about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. 4 13dangledangle, lookalive07, T.Low and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Please let Pittsburg have him. Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 might as well get forsberg too 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyrme19 73 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 people are so silly. I mean, i'm no Jagr fan (its hard to like anyone with an association to a Jofa helmet and a crazy mullet to boot) but to answer the simple question, "would Jaromir Jagr help the Wings?" the simple answer is yes. The detailed answer comes in when you are taking into account his salary, and who else was available with that salary. Jagr's last 3 seasons in the NHL: 123 96 71 pts. 54 30 25 goals. Now sure, his numbers declined each year - but how can you ever justify a pure goal scorer capable of putting up 70+ points can not *help* the wings. Of course, this is all relative. Who did we pass up for him? Who did we not sign because we didn't have cap space left? Most people assume that if Holland were to sign Jagr for 1 year 3 mil, it was a huge f*** up because Richards was ready to sign on the dotted line for 3.2 mil/4 years. But - if the premise of the question is would our current lineup be better if Jagr was in it, then you can't say anything but a resounding YES. How can you argue with a little more Jagr, and a little less Abdelkader or Hudler? I get sad sometimes when I hear Wings fans fall victim to the rest of the goats who preach that the last thing the Red Wings need is an aging vet. "The Red Wings are too old" is THE ONLY THING I HAVE KNOWN MY ENTIRE LIFE SPAN AS A RED WINGS FAN. Seriously....shouldn't you guys know better 20 straight playoff appearances later? If Jagr ended up on our roster, that means Holland and Co. did their due diligence and the sick/nasty Jagr that has torn up the NHL would probably continue to do so in the Winged Wheel. For the curious, I looked up his KHL stats real quick. 55/56gp 25g 28a 53pts 51/56gp 22g 20a 42pts 49/56gp 19g 32a 51pts Last year he was his team leader in all categories (didnt check other years). Someone will probably argue how much of a joke the KHL is and that their grandma could score 20 goals in the league. And for them, well they just dont have a grasp on hockey is all. Some players games translate to other leagues, others dont. (p.s. thats exactly what scouts are hired for - to figure that out!) Jagr's game obviously translates. 2 Zetts and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Another Old Geezer is not what this team needs. I wouldn't sign Jagr for $250,000. It's fine to get a player like him but as I've said I truly believe this team needs to get younger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyrme19 73 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Kind of a crazy sidenote I just saw on wikipedia: "Jaromír Jágr was sitting next to Alexei Cherepanov when Cherepanov, a first-round pick of the Rangers, died. They were discussing the past shift when Cherepanov collapsed right into Jágr on the bench at the Ice Hockey Center 2004 arena." I didn't know that. Pretty insane. NYR have been one of the more unfortunate teams with player deaths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsudzy 2 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Some players make the team and some teams make the player. Jagr is the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Another Old Geezer is not what this team needs. I wouldn't sign Jagr for $250,000. It's fine to get a player like him but as I've said I truly believe this team needs to get younger. Between you, me and the man in the moon, I wouldn't pay him $2.50 - in fact, I'd make him pay us for the privilege to play here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) Based on listening to Holland on the radio this morning, the Wings are definitely looking at getting younger, not older, so I think that would pretty much rule out bringing Jagr on board. Edited May 16, 2011 by toby91_ca Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Jaromir Jagr would be an AMAZING addition to the Detroit Red Wings. If this were 1992. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 There's only room for one enigmatic player who can score in bunches & then disappear for weeks on end & the Wings already have the Mule. No need to add another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted May 16, 2011 As someone who in the past has wanted to get old superstars to fill depth roles on the team (Modano, Hasek) I think Jagr would be a terrible idea. Where would you put him? On the 3rd line? I don't think I would want to hold down one of speedy young players for him. Plus, there's no guarantee he'll be anywhere near the way he was even in 2008. His numbers were declining 3 years ago, I can't imagine what they'd be like now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
