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Brad McCrimmon will not return for 2011/2012


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:00 PM

What are the chances we could scoop up Smith again do you think?
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:00 PM

Whether you blame the players or blame the coach, the team has to shuffle the deck to improve the defensive performance. Since our blue line isn't going to see much change due to the contracts we've got, the only other option is to dump the coach.

Yup - always easier to get rid of a coach than it is to move a handful (or more) players.

A coaching change seemed to do well in Tampa (along with a new GM); maybe a new guy coaching our Dmen will have a better result as well.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:02 PM

I think it would be great if the Wings found a coach that already has good familiarity and history of a good working relationship with Babs and MacLean. I'm not sure if such a candidate exists but that way everybody can be on the same page faster. Therefore, I hope Babs and MacLean have a loooot of input on the replacement.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:04 PM

What are the chances we could scoop up Smith again do you think?

I'm pretty sure he's under contract with the KHL and I don't think he wants to leave a head gig to be an asst anymore... who knows though, stranger things have happened, I'd welcome him back with open arms!

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:07 PM

Every team needs a scapegoat. We could definitely use a guy with better defensive schemes, but he isn't the reason our guys sucked.

Agreed - however someone has gotta take the fall, and it was McCrimmon.

Hopefully his replacement will dog our Dmen, and get them back near the top of the standings.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:08 PM

I hear Ken Hitchcock is on the market for a job... Could he fit in nicely with Babcock as our Defensive Coach? Didn't they work together at some point (Olympics)?


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:08 PM

HAHAHAHA YES!!!!!! This wouldn't have happened if we won the Cup! lol

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:09 PM

Agreed - however someone has gotta take the fall, and it was McCrimmon.

Hopefully his replacement will dog our Dmen, and get them back near the top of the standings.


According to the team, it was his decision to leave.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:09 PM

Every team needs a scapegoat. We could definitely use a guy with better defensive schemes, but he isn't the reason our guys sucked.

Maybe so but this was the obvious move. A new scheme and fresh face in that position will be a welcomed thing. Next up is that defenseman we have needed. Whether it happens or not is to be seen but as another poster had put it, the changes start right here.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:14 PM

Just out of curiosity because I really have no idea about these things, why does everyone think that Chelios would be a great replacement? He doesn't have any coaching experience, does he? Is there a reason I'm missing as to why he would automatically be an upgrade from McCrimmon?

Coaching just seems like one of those things that requires a lot of experience, and I don't mean playing experience, I mean actual coaching experience. Great players don't always make great coaches, right out of the gate.

Anyway, just wondering if there's something to it.


I agree. We have to look no further than Wayne Gretzky to see that a great player isn't automatically a great coach. I can't see Holland hiring a coach with no previous experience.

Is it a coincidence that so few successful NHL head coaches were successful players?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:19 PM

According to the team, it was his decision to leave.


TSN sez: "Sources say McCrimmon and head coach Mike Babcock mutually agreed it was the right time to make the change." a.k.a. "you're fired". I don't think its the Wings style to embarrass anyone and say it publicly.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:21 PM

Every team needs a scapegoat. We could definitely use a guy with better defensive schemes, but he isn't the reason our guys sucked.

I'd be one of the last people on here to play the "Let's blame somebody" game when it isn't dead obvious when one person is pretty much at 100% fault. That's why I rarely get into bagging on typical whipping boys like Ericsson and Hudler because while they didn't have the best seasons obviously, they had their good moments and I think they can be beneficial players at times (conversely, it aggravates me to all ends when people on here overvalue players as well).

But, Ericsson and Hudler specifcially isn't the point of my response, point is also they didn't fully help either, the same with McCrimmon here, and while he may not be 100% at fault, some things have to change and unforuantely (or fortunately depending on how you look at it and how the consensus here are looking at it) he's the one getting the ax. Is everything 100% rays and sunshine now that he is eliminated? No. Will it completely be that way eventually? Probably not. Does his exit help things? In all likelihood, yes.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:23 PM

I agree. We have to look no further than Wayne Gretzky to see that a great player isn't automatically a great coach. I can't see Holland hiring a coach with no previous experience.

Is it a coincidence that so few successful NHL head coaches were successful players?


"Those can't do, teach."

I remember Kronwall once mentioned how hard it can be for Nick Lidstrom to explain in words to other dmen teammates how he reads the play on the ice.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:31 PM

"Those can't do, teach."

I remember Kronwall once mentioned how hard it can be for Nick Lidstrom to explain in words to other dmen teammates how he reads the play on the ice.

It makes sense. Because for a lot of these star players, especially someone with the hockey IQ of Nick, it probably just seems intuitive. So how do you teach guys things that happen to you in a way you don't even think about?

Honestly with Chelios, it could go either way. He could be great, but he'd certainly be a gamble due to his lack of real coaching experience.

Agreed - however someone has gotta take the fall, and it was McCrimmon.

Hopefully his replacement will dog our Dmen, and get them back near the top of the standings.

Yup.

Like I said in another thread. When you have Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart and Rafalski as your top 4. And forwards like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Flip and a lot of generally responsible players, plus generally solid goaltending from Jimmy, the team should be doing a hell of a lot better than 23rd in GAA.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:33 PM

"Those can't do, teach."

And those who can't teach, teach gym.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:37 PM

Honestly with Chelios, it could go either way. He could be great, but he'd certainly be a gamble due to his lack of real coaching experience.

You have to start somewhere. Didn't someone say he was working with the prospects in GR? Sometimes you need to take a chance on someone, they might be just what you need.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:39 PM

And those who can't teach, teach gym.


I've never heard that one before but now that I think back to my gym teachers it actually makes sense, haha.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:44 PM

:w00t2: :yahoo:

I predict, Holland is not done with his surprises yet!

Blah,Blah,Blah....Trade Pav...Blah, Blah...Trade Z...Yadda, Yadda, Blah...

 

 


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:45 PM

Bob Boughner anyone? Former NHL defenceman, Detroit's 2nd round draft pick of the 1989 draft. Current assistant coach of Columbus and president and C.E.O of the Windsor Spitfires. His hometown is Windsor, by the way.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:47 PM

Good news, IMO.

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