Guest blueadams Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) I'm interested in hearing who some of your 'all-time' teams include. Here's mine. Here's a disclaimer - I really don't think many of the old time stars would be superstars if they were inserted into the league today. And I really don't feel comfortable putting too many players I never even saw live on here anyways. Also...when I'm picking guys here...I'm thinking like, who had the best 5-6 year prime. Not who put up the most points over a career. Not who was the best over an entire career. Just the best hockey that I ever saw at a given time. And some of my personal favorites. Howe-Gretzky-Bure Ovechkin-Lemiux-Jagr Shannahan-Yzerman-Fedorov Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Crosby Nash ...Never saw Mr. Hockey play, but he's gotta be on there. Third line is obviously a personal favorite. Some might think that Hank doesn't belong, but he completely shut down the best player in the game in the stanley cup finals, so he gets a spot on the shut-down line. Second line won't have to play defense. Bure would be a perfect partner for Gretzky. Orr-Lidstrom Coffey-Bourque Pronger-Chelios Harvey ...Never saw Harvey play, but you can't not include a guy that won seven norris trophies. Wanted to get Konstantinov in there, but I think that Cheli's pre-Detroit prime was a little more impressive. First two pairings are probably the best two puck movers and stay at home defensemen in the history of the game. And I know he's hated, but Chris Pronger most definitely brings special things to a team. Hasek Broduer Roy ...I don't care what anyone says, no one was better than Dom in his buffalo prime. Roy was probably more talented than Broduer, but you want a reliable backup goalie that won't ruin the locker room. Edited May 23, 2011 by blueadams 1 Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) You contradicted yourself by saying that you never saw certain legends play, yet you had several on your list. So why would you include Harvey and Orr but not Hull or Richard? Mine would look like this. Lemieux - Gretzky - Howe Hull - Esposito - Richard Messier - Morenz - Lafleur Trottier - Beliveau - Yzerman Lidstrom - Orr Harvey - Robinson Potvin - Shore Roy Hasek Edited May 23, 2011 by GMRwings1983 1 Red Wings Addict reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul MacLean's Mustache 44 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Lebda-Lebda-Lebda Lebda-Lebda-Lebda Lebda-Lebda-Lebda Lebda-Lebda-Lebda Lebda-Lebda Lebda-Lebda Lebda-Lebda Lebda Lebda 3 Namingway, HadThomasVokounOnFortSt and TheDetroitRedWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 We should do a list of the all-time best blueadams line threads. 6 Konnan511, dirtydangles, HadThomasVokounOnFortSt and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Seriously, what is it with the lines threads? 2 HankthaTank and HadThomasVokounOnFortSt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Seriously, what is it with the lines threads? You're new-ish here, you'll learn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) I tried to keep it players who actually played those positions: Hull - Gretzky - Howe Lindsay - Lemieux - Richard Mahovlich - Beliveau - Lafleur Robitaille - Esposito - Bossy Orr - Harvey Shore - Lidstrom Bourque - Potvin Sawchuk Plante Edited May 23, 2011 by Konnan511 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 I tried to keep it players who actually played those positions: Hull - Gretzky - Howe Lindsay - Lemieux - Richard Mahovlich - Beliveau - Lafleur Robitaille - Esposito - Bossy Orr - Harvey Shore - Lidstrom Bourque - Potvin Sawchuk Plante Shows you how much better right-wingers are than left-wingers, in terms of all time players. The difference would be even more glaring if you made a top 20 from each of those two positions. I didn't choose that route, because I'd feel silly putting Robitaille ahead of Messier, Yzerman or Morenz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Shows you how much better right-wingers are than left-wingers, in terms of all time players. The difference would be even more glaring if you made a top 20 from each of those two positions. I didn't choose that route, because I'd feel silly putting Robitaille ahead of Messier, Yzerman or Morenz. Oh I completely agree. I even had to go and look at some of the right wingers because I could really only name Hull and Lindsay without delving into our playing era lol. The right wingers were simple and the centers weren't hard either. Same goes for the defense and goalies...for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitchmac33 103 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 why no ken dryden? 6 cups in 8 seasons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) why no ken dryden? 6 cups in 8 seasons He was a very good goalie, but Manny Legace would have won cups with those Montreal teams. Edit: And I also have a few other goalies ranked ahead of him. Edited May 23, 2011 by Konnan511 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 why no ken dryden? 6 cups in 8 seasons I'd rank at least Roy, Hasek, Tretiak, Sawchuk and Plante ahead of him. Maybe a few others too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StayClassy 38 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) Bure-Gretzky-Fedorov Ovechkin-Lemieux-Neely Shanahan-Yzerman-Howe Messier-Datsyuk-Hull Probert Selanne/Jagr Lidstrom-Pronger Orr-Borque Chelios-Leetch Robinson Niedermeyer Hasek Lundqvist Brodeur Obviously there's some bias there. Especially toward players of our generation, but it's all for fun anyway. Tried to add a mix of speed, skill, and grit. Of course Probert has to be there as the best enforcer of all time. Edited May 23, 2011 by StayClassy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 I'd rank at least Roy, Hasek, Tretiak, Sawchuk and Plante ahead of him. Maybe a few others too. It's weird how much we agree on when it pertains to the past eras lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Hull-Gretky-Howe Sakic-Yzerman-Lemieux Kurri-Messier-Shanahan Fedorov-Datsyuk-Ovechkin Hudler (during that 10 game stretch Eva keeps talking about ) Lidstrom-Orr Leetch-Konstantinov Borque-Chelios McGinnis Sawchuk (with a year or two of modern training to learn the butterfly) Hasek Bowman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Hull-Gretky-Howe Sakic-Yzerman-Lemieux Kurri-Messier-Shanahan Fedorov-Datsyuk-Ovechkin Hudler (during that 10 game stretch Eva keeps talking about ) Lidstrom-Orr Leetch-Konstantinov Borque-Chelios McGinnis Sawchuk (with a year or two of modern training to learn the butterfly) Hasek Bowman Don't be an ass, you know damn well it was 11 games! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) You contradicted yourself by saying that you never saw certain legends play, yet you had several on your list. So why would you include Harvey and Orr but not Hull or Richard? contradicted? good one, professor. i said that i didn't want to put too many on, and i only put three. and why those three? ummm...let's see. bobby orr is almost universally agreed upon as the best defenseman to ever live. gordie howe is almost universally agreed upon as at least one of the best three forwards of all-time. doug harvey won seven norris trophies. and...drum roll...i couldn't think of anyone else i'd seen that i really really loved. Edited May 23, 2011 by blueadams 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and Mitchmac33 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Wow another blueadams line thread? Atleast its a little different....a little Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 23, 2011 Bure-Gretzky-Fedorov Ovechkin-Lemieux-Neely Shanahan-Yzerman-Howe Messier-Datsyuk-Hull Probert Selanne/Jagr Lidstrom-Pronger Orr-Borque Chelios-Leetch Robinson Niedermeyer Hasek Lundqvist Brodeur Obviously there's some bias there. Especially toward players of our generation, but it's all for fun anyway. Tried to add a mix of speed, skill, and grit. Of course Probert has to be there as the best enforcer of all time. The players I have listed in bold do not belong anywhere near an "all-time" team. Neely? Seriously? He scored well in his prime playing with Janney and then Oates, but without them he didn't score much at all. Cheechoo situation much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites