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[hillbillywingsfan]

Doughty went downhill after his concussion. Significant concussion = bad. Also, L.A. has enough money to spend up to the cap. Nashville does not.

I agree with this. And the thing is, Nashville in the past seems to let go of their stars easier than most teams if the cost goes up for said player too much. I think L.A would probably try and throw whatever they had at Doughty. Webby i see him more of a chance but really i feel we wont get either. This is going to be a scary off season me thinks. Please lids one more year!!!

[Drake_Marcus]

SHEA WEBER WANTS TO REMAIN A NASHVILLE PREDATORS.

According to recent interviews that's true. He's never expressed a desire to leave and from what I've read he was confident a deal could be worked out to keep him in Nashville.

But that doesn't mean he's closed every other door.

[PredsFanTheBayouState]

He's more than one?

yes,you did not hear that nashville has clones of shea weber.

[Crymson]

According to recent interviews that's true. He's never expressed a desire to leave and from what I've read he was confident a deal could be worked out to keep him in Nashville.

But that doesn't mean he's closed every other door.

I think that our speculation about Weber is the sort of thing that members of other forums point and laugh at.

Edited by Crymson, 23 May 2011 - 10:42 PM.

[Majsheppard]

I also might consider giving up a few picks for Yandle. I doubt Phoenix would match an offer sheet.

[Red Wings Addict]

"I've decided to take my talents to Detroit" doesn't really have the same ring to it.

"I'm going to take my talents to the Motor City." Hmm, nah.

"I'm going to take my talents to Motown." Hmm, that's more for a musician than an athlete.

"I'm going to take my talents to Hockeytown." Better.

[Drake_Marcus]

I think that our speculation about Weber is the sort of thing that members of other forums point and laugh at.

Probably. But I'm betting there are 30 teams with fans who'd love to find a way to fit Weber onto their team.

[clutchngrab]

Only way I'd support him retiring is if the Wings could get Weber or Doughty as a replacement. I'm iffy about every other free agent defensemen available this summer.

I realize most of you are in the eastern time zone and don't get to watch Vancouver that much, but their team is the real deal and it's partly due to having a very good and tough puck-moving defense headed by Bieska. He skates, hits and shoots very well. The best potential d-man out there, though he may cost more than 4 mil to move.

[Hockeytown0001]

Probably. But I'm betting there are 30 teams with fans who'd love to find a way to fit Weber onto their team.

Not to mention that Detroit is a destination that prominent free agents have been known to favor in the past.

[VM1138]

This completely surprised me. I never expected this. I'm disappointed to see Rafalski go, he was a great defenseman and was just what this team needed for '08 and '09, and was sorely missed during his injury stints. But on the other hand, the money this frees up, we could replace Lidstrom before he even retires, and then replace Rafalski less year. Could be potentially awesome.

But no, we won't get Weber, let's move on from that.

So much for Holland's "not doing much" this off-season.

[sandyeggo wingnut]

Not to mention that Detroit is a destination that prominent free agents have been known to favor in the past.

Hossa

[10 Minute Misconduct]

FORWARDS
Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Scottie Upshall ($3.000m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.000m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Drew Miller($0.750m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($2.25m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.20m)
Christian Ehroff ($5.00m) / James Wisniewski ($4.25m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / ($0.800m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $40,808,711; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (14-man roster): $816,289,000

OR

FORWARDS
Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Brad Richards ($6.700m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.000m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Drew Miller($0.750m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($2.25m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.20m)
Christian Ehroff ($5.00m) / Ruslan Salei ($0.750m) (Or equivalent right handed shot)..
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / ($0.800m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $40,808,711; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (14-man roster): $616,289,000

Hope I got the math right...

Edited by 10 Minute Misconduct, 23 May 2011 - 11:18 PM.

[Majsheppard]

According to recent interviews that's true. He's never expressed a desire to leave and from what I've read he was confident a deal could be worked out to keep him in Nashville.

But that doesn't mean he's closed every other door.

No one ever says I don't want to stay at a place, it ruins your ability to negotiate.

I bet he is a Predator next year, but I do not thing it is a given that he will always be one.

[Hockeytown0001]

Hossa

Tried and failed, unfortunately.

[Majsheppard]

This is the first of many moves that will happen over the next 15 months or so as the Wings try and shed the "old, slow, and soft" label and adjust to the ever changing post-lockout NHL. Depending on what happens this summer will obviously affect what the 2012 off-season which will be, IMO, the most important off-season for the wings since the lockout. Current players that have contracts for the 2012-13 season are:

Datsyuk $6.7(ends 2014)
Zetterberg $6,083,333
Franzen $3,954,545
Filppula $3.0(final year on contract)
Cleary $2.8(final year on contract)
*Helm RFA
*Abdelkader RFA

Kindl $883,333(final year on contract, will be RFA)

Howard $2,250,000


Prospects who have a chance to make 2012-13 roster(in no particular order)
Forwards
Andersson $875,000(final year of contract, will be RFA)
Tatar $840,000(ends 2014 will be RFA)
Emmerton $533,333(ends 2014 will be RFA)
Nyquist $762,500(final year on contract, will be RFA)
Ferraro $715,000(final year on contract, will be RFA)
Mursak $550,000(final year on contract, will be RFA)
Aubry $615,000(final year on contract, will be RFA)
Callahan $558,333(final year on contract, will be RFA)
Jarnkrok Unsigned
Pulkkinen Unsigned


Defense
Smith $875,000(final year of contract, will be RFA)
Pyett Current RFA
Fournier $606,666(final year of contract, will be RFA)
Lashoff $523,888(final year of contract, will be RFA)
Almqvist Unsigned

Goalies
McCollum $816,666(final year of contract, will be RFA)
Pearce Current RFA
Mrazek Unsigned

The bottom line is that the wings have plenty of forwards and "should" be set up front for the next decade with big skilled guys and a dusting of grit along with a few free agents.

On the back end something needs to change. Brendan Smith is the only D prospect currently ranked in the top 12 on RedWingsCentral.

In net the Wings look as thought they have a top 10 goalie in Howard. If McCollum can reach his potential the wings will be set in goal for the next 10-15 years.

This is why I feel we need to get aggressive on d. Four picks for Weber sounds like a deal when you figure that is what we will need more than anything.

RFA is a legitimate fix four us. I suggest we step up and make the team better now so Lids can win again, and get someone so solid we can stay together for longer.

[sandyeggo wingnut]

Tried and failed, unfortunately.

Not the point.

[Buppy]

...CAP SPACE (14-man roster): $816,289,000
...
Hope I got the math right...

Pretty sure if we end up with $816 million in free cap space, someone's math is wrong.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

Wow. Nobody saw that one coming. Finally, an interesting summer coming up.

Edit: Doug Weight set to announce his future this week, as well. Looks like he may be done, as well.

Edited by Bring Back The Bruise Bros, 23 May 2011 - 11:44 PM.

[13dangledangle]

Probably. But I'm betting there are 30 teams with fans who'd love to find a way to fit Weber onto their team.

That is why it's time for "the greatest GM in sports" to step up and get #6 to the sewing machine.

[Trapt1307]

Sad to see Raffi go, but this offseason definitely just got exciting.