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#141 Matt

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:38 PM

Found it: http://www.usatoday....-redwings_N.htm

The important bit:

Rafalski's agent, William Zito, said five teams tried to sign the defenseman — including one offering a six-year, $40 million contract — but he wanted to play for his hometown team.


... Which works out to roughly $6.67-million/season. Almost $700K -- a nice chunk of change to save.

Rafalski was a fantastic signing and a great compliment to Lidstrom on the power play. (Schneider did us a favor!) We will desperately miss that first-pass and the right-hand shot on the power play. Thanks Brian!

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:42 PM

Damn, this really came out of left field. Thanks for the cup and all the memories Brian, you will be missed

In terms of the UFA market, I agree that there really isn't anything out there for us. The more I think about this and Holland's comments since we were eliminated about possible moves outside free agency, the more I see a big trade happening. I'm talking about the type of trade that we haven't seen from the Wings in years. I have no idea who we would target, but something tells me Holland has something up his sleeve.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:42 PM




It's not. He was offered more than Detroit's $6-million when he hit free agency. (It might've been the Devils to try to keep him at around $6.5-million, but I haven't looked back to confirm.) Regardless, he absolutely took a lower offer to play here. It was a big point made in the press when he signed here.


Classy guy for a classy organisation.He could probably play another 40-50 games next season,but he walked away from 6 mil$
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:54 PM

Get any 2 of Wiz/Brewer/Vandemeer/Bogosian, let Salei/Big E walk, then have Kindl run full time bottom pairing with Smith being the utility 7th dman. I prefer Wiz/Bogosian

Found it: http://www.usatoday....-redwings_N.htm

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... Which works out to roughly $6.67-million/season. Almost $700K -- a nice chunk of change to save.

Rafalski was a fantastic signing and a great compliment to Lidstrom on the power play. (Schneider did us a favor!) We will desperately miss that first-pass and the right-hand shot on the power play. Thanks Brian!

Although he has been very erratic the last few seasons (aside from Olympics) his contract was worth it, he was a big piece in winning the cup and it's sad but you could kind of tell the body just couldn't do it anymore. Good Luck Rafalski
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:54 PM

Lots of $ to spend. Fear not, we will make it work. Take your boy Hudler's 2.875 off the books and we are sitting beautifully.

:w00t2: Yes, if all that happens, plus the cap goes up $4.1M!?!?! Holland would have over $25,000,000!!!!! to spend....when is the last time he had that much to spend?!?!?! Screw it, Ehrhoff, Wisniewski & Babchuk! add those to Lidstrom, viola!

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:56 PM

as much as i hope it wont wont happen i can see kenny going after kaberle.. i would love for both brewer and bieksa to be wearing red next year...but with the post seasons both are having i cant see either team letting them go


I think a lot of people are overlooking this fact.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:57 PM

It would leave us with a lot of cap space. Shouldn't be any financial issues preventing us from giving Lids what he's asking for. I'd like to have Rafa back, but not at the salary he's due.

Lids should take $5.5M to $6M. Still will leave Holland $19M!!!!! (after he trades Hudler!)

I could imagine, maybe, just maybe he could offer something to Richards after all? Maybe?

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:59 PM

Found it: http://www.usatoday....-redwings_N.htm

The important bit:


... Which works out to roughly $6.67-million/season. Almost $700K -- a nice chunk of change to save.

Rafalski was a fantastic signing and a great compliment to Lidstrom on the power play. (Schneider did us a favor!) We will desperately miss that first-pass and the right-hand shot on the power play. Thanks Brian!

Agreed. As I said not too long ago, he was a huge part of the Wings system because of his great passing. And his long bombs helped keep other teams honest.


Assuming Rafalski really retires, doesn't that leave Eaves as the only right-handed shot on the roster?

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:00 PM

I have to check the CBA to be sure, but I do NOT believe the Wings will get all 6 million off the books. Rafalski is retiring with a contract through this up coming season. I believe that the remaining amount is spread out against the cap over a period of 3 years (may just be 2 though). Thus, they may only get 4 million off the books (or maybe just 3 million, depending on the terms)

And, good luck finding a GM stupid enough to take Hudler and his 2.75 million contract off our hands.

Here is why someone would take Hudler, he is young, has potential, in a contract year and if he scores 20, $2.875M is fair... he just doesn't fit here...

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:03 PM

People seem to forget a broken down, one legged Rafalski put up 90 points the past two seasons and had a .75 PPG pace this season. he was the catalyst for our ES. This team needs a smooth puck moving defenseman, a guy that isn't one of the dozen that LGW are throwing around, save for Wiz. Weber, Suter, Doughty, Bieksa, Bogo aren't coming here and nor will they even be given offers because they are going to be the first waved signed. I'll make anyone that bet right now.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:03 PM

Here is why someone would take Hudler, he is young, has potential, in a contract year and if he scores 20, $2.875M is fair... he just doesn't fit here...


Agreed, plenty of teams would take Hudler. It all comes down to if Kenny has the stones to trade him or not.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:04 PM

Ehrhoff is the safer choice, but Markov is the better player (when healthy). If I had to choose, I'd take both.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Drew Miller ($0.750m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.950m)
/ / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Andrei Markov ($5.750m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($4.500m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Chris Osgood ($0.800m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,683,711; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,216,289

I would prefer Wisniewski over Markov, he wouldn't cost as much and besides, who is gonna score goals next year? Besides the urgency on D all of a sudden, they still need a pure scorer...

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:04 PM

Forget Weber and Doughty. It ain't happenin'.

However, this certainly does make 2 of Kaberle/Bieksa/Babchuk/Wisniewski/Brewer/Ehrhoff a possibility, with space to sign a 3rd, gritty bottom pair guy as well.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:05 PM

People seem to forget a broken down, one legged Rafalski put up 90 points the past two seasons and had a .75 PPG pace this season. he was the catalyst for our ES. This team needs a smooth puck moving defenseman, a guy that isn't one of the dozen that LGW are throwing around, save for Wiz. Weber, Suter, Doughty, Bieksa, Bogo aren't coming here and nor will they even be given offers because they are going to be the first waved signed. I'll make anyone that bet right now.


I think Bieksa and Wiz are realistic possibilities but your right about the others.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:09 PM

I think a lot of people are overlooking this fact.


Do those teams have the cap space we now have? ...and how many of those teams have multiple players to re-sign whose agents will think their players deserve raises because of how far their respective teams went in the playoffs.

It goes both ways.


People seem to forget a broken down, one legged Rafalski put up 90 points the past two seasons and had a .75 PPG pace this season. he was the catalyst for our ES. This team needs a smooth puck moving defenseman, a guy that isn't one of the dozen that LGW are throwing around, save for Wiz. Weber, Suter, Doughty, Bieksa, Bogo aren't coming here and nor will they even be given offers because they are going to be the first waved signed. I'll make anyone that bet right now.


If Kenny isn't moving in that first wave this year, we're in deep s***... and yes, I do understand that some of these teams can sign their players before they even hit free agency.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:10 PM

Well, this certainly throws a monkey wrench into things doesn't it?

To those of you who are all fired up about Brendan Smith, he's not ready yet. He needs some more seasoning. Another year or two in GR will do him a lot of good.

Who do we sign? Depends on who wants it bad enough to sign for the right price. I'm not sure I really want another Markov, and Kaberle is not the answer either. Truth be known, I'd rather have Andreas Lilja back than Kaberle.

But that's just me. If this is true, then thank you, Brian, for everything. A class act indeed.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:12 PM

No need to panic, we have Doug Janik? :unsure:

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:13 PM

I think the Nucks won't sign Salo and use his salary(3.5) to improve Bieksa and Ehrhoff's new contracts so....Pitkanen and Wis anyone?

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:16 PM

Weber is obtainable if the Preds don't sign him before July 1st. As an RFA they can match anything, but at a certain point they might rather take the picks. I believe he can be an extremely expensive addition that you might not have been willing to take unless your defense sustains a critical loss, and it is possible that Lids running out of time and Brian retiring could be just that.

I still think the only way to get him is to offer him a good one year contract. The Preds might just realize that they will get nothing better from trading him after matching, and with UFA a year away and Weber taking a one year deal they might know they won't keep him.

You are right he is a franchise player, but remember he might not want to stay. The only way to tell is if you let him become a UFA and any team with some balls can offer him a one year contract that will make that certain.

Doughty, however, is too young for that to be an option.

I think it is far more likely we will go to FA for one addition, and this ensures we keep Ericcson and most likely will overpay him now...

The names thrown around aren't that great to be honest, and no one really fills what we would lose with Brian.

I really don't like this.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:17 PM

I think Bieksa and Wiz are realistic possibilities but your right about the others.


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