uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Kris Draper is eager to return to Detroit for one more season. What to do? Is it worth risking Cory Emmerton to keep Draper for one more year? For the record, I think no. It reminds me of when Chelios re-signed for the last time and there was no roster space for Kyle Quincey, who has gone on to be an integral part of the Avs defence. I would hate to lose a guy like Emmerton who hasn't had much chance to prove what he can do in the NHL. As much as having Draper's experience and faceoff ability would be a plus, I don't think it's worth losing one of our prospects. I'm also undecided about him joining the Grand Rapids Griffins. They've nearly maxed out their veteran quota and if all their veterans re-sign then there will be no room for him there either. 1 Green Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Probably what makes us great/irritating but I think bring him back for 1 more year and subsequently less than what he was making last year (1.578!! ). Not sure what cheap contract he can be bought at but he was actually pretty good this year and in the playoffs and is a great mentor. 13th/14th forward isn't that crazy of an idea to me. I also wouldn't be totally hurt to see him walk either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 I didn't vote on this because it's not that simple. It all depends on what UFA's are available and how the kids look in camp. Holland will want to sign Draper to a 2-way deal and Draper will have to fight for a roster spot in camp. I personally wouldn't hate having Draper as the 14th forward because I think he still brings a ton to the table even if his on ice play diminishes next season from where it was this season. The 2-way contract will ensure that he can be at camp fighting for a job but that if he ultimately retires the Wings aren't stuck with a cap hit. Draper won't be put in GR; he'll fight for the 14th forward spot on 2-way deal most likely 500k/105k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 More locker room change is the enemy right now. If they don't sign Draper to play they'll definitely sign him as a strength training coach or something similar to keep him with the team. 1 SwedeLundin77 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Omg... RETIRE ALREADY! Cripes 7 Hockey13Playa, Green Wing, Red Wings Addict and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) He's valuable in the playoffs. use him as a 12/th/13th forward. Edited May 26, 2011 by Konnan511 1 SwedeLundin77 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Sign him as a face-off man at the very least. We need someone who can take those damn things. I say he still has some value to the team at this point. One more year isn't going to make or break the season for us and I don't think he's taking a spot away from anyone else who's really ready right now. 2 Hockeymom1960 and SwedeLundin77 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 He's valuable in the playoffs. use him as a 12/th/13th forward. Ya, so valuable that he helped the Wings to two consecutive second round exits? Seriously, you guys will all be bitching by December that Draper needs to go. Keep him on as a trainer or something, but he needs to be off the ice and replaced with a younger body imo. 2 ComradeWasabi and homertime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Ya, so valuable that he helped the Wings to two consecutive second round exits? Seriously, you guys will all be bitching by December that Draper needs to go. Keep him on as a trainer or something, but he needs to be off the ice and replaced with a younger body imo. You're right. It's all Draper's fault . What's wrong if he signs for 1mil and is used every third game? 5 SwedeLundin77, HankthaTank, Hockey13Playa and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 The guy has earned the right to retire on his own terms and he proved to be one of the best players on our team last year in the playoffs, getting tough faceoffs and winning battles. If Hudler is traded, we might not have to worry about losing any players so let the guy have a contract. 3 Hockeymom1960, SwedeLundin77 and HankthaTank reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Name ONE THING that Draper has done in the playoffs the past two seasons that makes him "valuable". Besides his faceoff percentage, which is above average at best, and his speed... which has been declining steadily. 3 ComradeWasabi, uk_redwing and wings1110 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) If Hudler is traded, we might not have to worry about losing any players so let the guy have a contract. That's a good point. Get rid of the useless Hudler (for a Dman or picks or whatever it doesn't matter) and then there should be room for Draper, Mursak and Emmerton if I'm correct? Edit: Assuming Eaves and Miller re-sign of course, which I hope they do. Edited May 26, 2011 by uk_redwing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) It's not surprising Draper wants to come back. He's a competitor. That being said, even for a cheaper contract, I'd rather the Wings try to fill his spot with someone who has equal speed and grinding, but also is more likely to stay healthy and has the potential to be part of the team's future. Honestly though I have a feeling Holland will sign him to a one-year deal Edited May 26, 2011 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 What's wrong if he signs for 1mil and is used every third game? If he does, I hope not for 1 million. Just give him the veteran's minimum. Apparently that's for around 600-700K or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks but No Thanks. Drapes has been a great player but his age is catching up with him and he hasn't been as good as he was when he was younger. Let's bring someone up from GR that can fill his spot. 1 homertime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Ya, so valuable that he helped the Wings to two consecutive second round exits? Seriously, you guys will all be bitching by December that Draper needs to go. Keep him on as a trainer or something, but he needs to be off the ice and replaced with a younger body imo. Gimme a break. He was one of our more solid contributors in the playoffs. I think a 2 way deal is fair, but at the same time, he has proved he still has plenty left in the tank, so maybe as an extra forward, depending on what we do with Hudler, Miller and Eaves. 2 Hockeymom1960 and newfy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) If he's got the drive to go another year I have no problems taking him on as the 13/14th forward. Our forward situation is currently as follows: Datsyuk Zetterberg Franzen Filppula Cleary Bertuzzi Holmstrom Helm Abdelkader Hudler Eaves hopefully back, so that's 11, Emmerton and Mursak up, that's 12 and 13. If we go with 7 d-men that's room for a 14th forward, might as well take an experienced guy and good leader like Draper. If we trade Hudler and don't take back a forward he's our 13th guy and we have 8 d-man. Or we trade Hudler, add a scorer, he's #13/14 with Emmerton based on how Emmerton plays. Or we trade Hudler, add a banger/fighter/whatever, and put him or Drapes in depending on the situation. As long as he's cheap and isn't intended to be part of the main, healthy group, I'm fine with him being here. Not really going to be any other better options for a 13/14. Also, if the team is in one of those stints where injuries have forced a couple of the backup guys onto the squad, then a guy like Draper is sometimes more desirable than a slightly more skilled/young player in the same spot. Experienced, knows the drill, can help keep cohesiveness on the bench and in the room. Edited May 26, 2011 by Datsyerberger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) I like Draper, but he's like the relative that doesn't know when to leave the party. I'd rather have a younger, bigger forward taking up 4th line minutes. We need to get younger as a team. And that was not easy for me to type. Edited May 26, 2011 by GMRwings1983 3 Rick D, Detroit \# 1 Fan and homertime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 And that was not easy for me to type. Give your hands a break, then. It's healthy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Name ONE THING that Draper has done in the playoffs the past two seasons that makes him "valuable". Besides his faceoff percentage, which is above average at best, and his speed... which has been declining steadily. He was very valuable in these playoffs , i felt that when we changed him for miller in game 3 are 4th line had so much more jump. Like you said he's good at faceoffs, i really disagree that his speed is declining the guy can still fly, muck it up in the corners, plays hard every shift, can Pk (even though he doesn't much). And he plays great with both helm and eaves. i absolutely love that line. He deserves to be here, and on the plus side he will be cheap. TBH i would rather have him then miller as i believe he brings more energy to the table. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 That's a good point. Get rid of the useless Hudler (for a Dman or picks or whatever it doesn't matter) and then there should be room for Draper, Mursak and Emmerton if I'm correct? Edit: Assuming Eaves and Miller re-sign of course, which I hope they do. I'm just salivating in anticipation of all the goals our bottom 2 lines will score if that is the case! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) I voted sign him, especially if Holland is going to testing the trade waters for a replacement D-Man or Higher end forward. Him and Miller (re-sign him too) can rotate in and out with Mursak. Do we know if Emmerton has any options to GRR left? IF not, maybe they showcase him and Mursak in training camp/pre-season to see who wins the 13th spot and they trade the other away. Not unless Holland knows who he wants up (more than likely Mursak) and bundles Hudler/Emmerton and whatever at the draft for said player... How would Jersey like Hudler/Emmerton/Kindl and our 1st round pick for Kovalchuk and his crippling cap hit? We could afford to pick it up... Of course then that would be yet another D-Man that would have to be replaced... Edited May 26, 2011 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 I voted sign him, especially if Holland is going to testing the trade waters for a replacement D-Man or Higher end forward. Him and Miller (re-sign him too) can rotate in and out with Mursak. Do we know if Emmerton has any options to GRR left? IF not, maybe they showcase him and Mursak in training camp/pre-season to see who wins the 13th spot and they trade the other away. Not unless Holland knows who he wants up (more than likely Mursak) and bundles Hudler/Emmerton and whatever at the draft for said player... How would Jersey like Hudler/Emmerton/Kindl and our 1st round pick for Kovalchuk and his crippling cap hit? We could afford to pick it up... Of course then that would be yet another D-Man that would have to be replaced... Jersey isn't going to move Kovalchuk, I think they're quite happy moving forward with him (or at least aren't ready to extract their foot from their mouth). Also, that's an awful deal for Kovalchuk. The Devils aren't going to move him (especially for spare parts and a pick) just because they had a wretched first half of a season with a terrible coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 27, 2011 Chris Draper hasn't been quite as good since he stopped playing on that line with Kurt Maltby and Darren McCarthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stinky fish taco Report post Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) No. No, man. s***, no, man. also, LOL @ the draper fanclub with the negative voting spree. all the negs in the world won't change the fact that draper's career is OVER. Edited May 27, 2011 by stinky fish taco 1 ben_usmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites