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Question about Carcillo

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I was pouring over the stats of many players and then I came to RFA Daniel Carcillo.

Daniel Carcillo

Left Wing

Born Jan 28 1985 -- King City, ONT

Height 5.11 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots L

Selected by Pittsburgh Penguins round 3 #73 overall 2003 NHL Entry Draft

Regular Season Playoffs

Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM

2001-02 Milton Merchants OPJHL 47 15 16 31 162

2002-03 Sarnia Sting OHL 68 29 37 66 157 11 6 0 4 4 14

2003-04 Sarnia Sting OHL 61 30 29 59 148 2 4 1 2 3 12

2004-05 Sarnia Sting OHL 12 2 7 9 40 -3 -- -- -- -- --

2004-05 Mississauga IceDogs OHL 20 8 10 18 75 5 5 3 1 4 18

2005-06 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins AHL 51 11 13 24 311 8 11 1 0 1 47

2005-06 Wheeling Nailers ECHL 6 3 2 5 32 -1 -- -- -- -- --

2006-07 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins AHL 52 21 9 30 183 1 -- -- -- -- --

2006-07 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 18 4 3 7 74 -7 -- -- -- -- --

2007-08 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 57 13 11 24 324 1 -- -- -- -- --

2007-08 San Antonio Rampage AHL 5 2 1 3 16 0 -- -- -- -- --

2008-09 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 54 3 7 10 174 -13 -- -- -- -- --

2008-09 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 20 0 4 4 80 -2 5 1 1 2 5

2009-10 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 76 12 10 22 207 5 17 2 4 6 34

2010-11 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 57 4 2 6 127 -14

2010-11 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 11 2 1 3 30

NHL Totals 282 36 37 73 986 33 5 6 11 69

He is clearly on the down slide from the former years... and it looks like PHX got the best of their deal which was Upshall and a 2nd rounder.

My question... Do you think he will be able to turn his career back around or did he already make it past his prime?

Bonus question?

Would he be any use to the Wings?

EDIT: I can't seem to format this well...

Edited by Majsheppard

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Nah, and I never understood the overall obsession people had for this guy. He wouldn't crack the Wings lineup.

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I understood why people wanted him when he was in PHX, he was damn good there and showed promise of improving. He has been awful for a few years straight... I just wonder if he could turn it around because he could be a very cheap player.

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His career is pretty much over, especially after the injury he took.

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He could crack the Wings roster easily, but I wouldnt want him honestly. Dives, takes bad penalties, and is a smaller guy for what he tries to do. Speaking of Carcillo, the guy he was traded for, Scottie Upshall is a free agent. If we want a spark plug player with upside, it's him, not Carcillo.

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Huh? blink.gif

Who's spot does he "easily" take then???

He's a good player. If Drew Miller can play for Detroit in the playoffs, Carcillo could. Skill wise of course, because I dont want Carcillo, he's too much of a lunatic.

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I've watched Philly a lot last two years (because of Leino) and Carcillo is definitely NOT someone I'd want on the Wings. His level of play is inconsistent, takes way too many penalties and isn't even that good as an enforcer.

He'd definitely be a project though. He could end up like Ott or Ruutu - a good PKer, agitator and a player who is decent shift to shift - as he's only 26.

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ive seen this guy play alot...played junior in my home town of sarnia...and because of that have always been a fan.. early in his career he showed all kinds of skill and put up not bad numbers while leading the league in fighting majors...the biggest problem is he turned into a pure inforcer type player...5 years ago i wouldve loved him on the wings but not so much anymore..maybe he could turn it around playing for a team like detroit if used properly but i cant see kenny taking that chance.....and on a side note i say go get upshall hed be great on this team

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I've watched Philly a lot last two years (because of Leino) and Carcillo is definitely NOT someone I'd want on the Wings. His level of play is inconsistent, takes way too many penalties and isn't even that good as an enforcer.

He'd definitely be a project though. He could end up like Ott or Ruutu - a good PKer, agitator and a player who is decent shift to shift - as he's only 26.

Rumors online suggest that his hands were tied by the coach when it came to fighting. I hope that explains his play for Philly, because it seemed like a significant regression from his play in Phoenix.

Two years ago (and a bit last season), I would have wanted Carcillo, but his play this season was seriously underwhelming. I'd take 07-08 Carcillo on the Wings any day, but I don't want 10-11 Carcillo.

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he plays the roll the flyers want i think. Even with the injury, he def. not on the downside of his career hes only 26, i just think he needs a change of scenery, and adjust his roll(which would occur with a team change most likely. A change of teams can really change a guys style of play, that being said ide like to see him on the wings for the right price, in a grinding roll.

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He could crack the Wings roster easily, but I wouldnt want him honestly. Dives, takes bad penalties, and is a smaller guy for what he tries to do. Speaking of Carcillo, the guy he was traded for, Scottie Upshall is a free agent. If we want a spark plug player with upside, it's him, not Carcillo.

I have always loved Scotty.

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he is only 26, far from being anywhere near his prime. he could probably play some decent hockey if he stayed focused.

personally, i wouldn't want him though..

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Do not want.

He's so far from the WIng's radar I hadn't even thought about him. Takes STUPID penalties and only adds an agitator role.

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don't need him.

http://www.redwingscentral.com/prospects/mitchell-callahan/

“Daniel Carcillo in Philly is the kind of guy this guy is. He’s after you all the time, under everybody’s skin, he’s yappin’ at you and he’s doing all the things that bother everybody. He’s an agitator.” — Kelowna Rockets general manager Bruce Hamilton (June 2009)

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No log of his suspensions? Interesting.

He's even going to start the upcoming season with one.

Edited by cusimano_brothers

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A Philly coaching staff telling someone they can't fight.

Gotta admit, that's a new one on me.

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he plays the roll the flyers want i think. Even with the injury, he def. not on the downside of his career hes only 26, i just think he needs a change of scenery, and adjust his roll(which would occur with a team change most likely. A change of teams can really change a guys style of play, that being said ide like to see him on the wings for the right price, in a grinding roll.

What has been thought can not be unthought. Dagnabbit.

He can adjust his roll on the Flyers' bench. I don't want to see it.

On a totally and completely unrelated note, whenever I see "Carcillo", my brain auto-corrects to "Ciccarelli", which would be cool if we had a time machine, but that's as close to wanting Carcillo as I get.

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I really liked him earlier in his career when he was in Phoenix. He fought anyone, and showed some serious offensive upside. Gretzky loved him during his coaching tenure there. He's more of an agitator now, and he hasn't really developed the offensive part of his game. I don't think the Flyers bring him back. I hope he finds a home somewhere this summer, but it won't be here. Our main concern isn't up front this offseason. Maybe a depth signing or two, but Carcillo is far too unscrupulous out there to fit into our system of play.

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