Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) I was pouring over the stats of many players and then I came to RFA Daniel Carcillo. Daniel Carcillo Left Wing Born Jan 28 1985 -- King City, ONT Height 5.11 -- Weight 202 -- Shoots L Selected by Pittsburgh Penguins round 3 #73 overall 2003 NHL Entry Draft Regular Season Playoffs Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM 2001-02 Milton Merchants OPJHL 47 15 16 31 162 2002-03 Sarnia Sting OHL 68 29 37 66 157 11 6 0 4 4 14 2003-04 Sarnia Sting OHL 61 30 29 59 148 2 4 1 2 3 12 2004-05 Sarnia Sting OHL 12 2 7 9 40 -3 -- -- -- -- -- 2004-05 Mississauga IceDogs OHL 20 8 10 18 75 5 5 3 1 4 18 2005-06 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins AHL 51 11 13 24 311 8 11 1 0 1 47 2005-06 Wheeling Nailers ECHL 6 3 2 5 32 -1 -- -- -- -- -- 2006-07 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins AHL 52 21 9 30 183 1 -- -- -- -- -- 2006-07 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 18 4 3 7 74 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2007-08 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 57 13 11 24 324 1 -- -- -- -- -- 2007-08 San Antonio Rampage AHL 5 2 1 3 16 0 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 54 3 7 10 174 -13 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 20 0 4 4 80 -2 5 1 1 2 5 2009-10 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 76 12 10 22 207 5 17 2 4 6 34 2010-11 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 57 4 2 6 127 -14 2010-11 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 11 2 1 3 30 NHL Totals 282 36 37 73 986 33 5 6 11 69 He is clearly on the down slide from the former years... and it looks like PHX got the best of their deal which was Upshall and a 2nd rounder. My question... Do you think he will be able to turn his career back around or did he already make it past his prime? Bonus question? Would he be any use to the Wings? EDIT: I can't seem to format this well... Edited May 27, 2011 by Majsheppard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 Do not want. 4 Hossa4Life, wings1110, mjlegend and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 Nah, and I never understood the overall obsession people had for this guy. He wouldn't crack the Wings lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 I understood why people wanted him when he was in PHX, he was damn good there and showed promise of improving. He has been awful for a few years straight... I just wonder if he could turn it around because he could be a very cheap player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 318 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 I don't want that diving piece of loud mouthed s*** near the wings! 4 pucktividi, Majsheppard, Hossa4Life and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 I'd have to say pass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 27, 2011 His career is pretty much over, especially after the injury he took. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 He could crack the Wings roster easily, but I wouldnt want him honestly. Dives, takes bad penalties, and is a smaller guy for what he tries to do. Speaking of Carcillo, the guy he was traded for, Scottie Upshall is a free agent. If we want a spark plug player with upside, it's him, not Carcillo. 1 Majsheppard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 He could crack the Wings roster easily Huh? Who's spot does he "easily" take then??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 Huh? Who's spot does he "easily" take then??? He's a good player. If Drew Miller can play for Detroit in the playoffs, Carcillo could. Skill wise of course, because I dont want Carcillo, he's too much of a lunatic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 I've watched Philly a lot last two years (because of Leino) and Carcillo is definitely NOT someone I'd want on the Wings. His level of play is inconsistent, takes way too many penalties and isn't even that good as an enforcer. He'd definitely be a project though. He could end up like Ott or Ruutu - a good PKer, agitator and a player who is decent shift to shift - as he's only 26. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teamhillman 2 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 ive seen this guy play alot...played junior in my home town of sarnia...and because of that have always been a fan.. early in his career he showed all kinds of skill and put up not bad numbers while leading the league in fighting majors...the biggest problem is he turned into a pure inforcer type player...5 years ago i wouldve loved him on the wings but not so much anymore..maybe he could turn it around playing for a team like detroit if used properly but i cant see kenny taking that chance.....and on a side note i say go get upshall hed be great on this team 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 I've watched Philly a lot last two years (because of Leino) and Carcillo is definitely NOT someone I'd want on the Wings. His level of play is inconsistent, takes way too many penalties and isn't even that good as an enforcer. He'd definitely be a project though. He could end up like Ott or Ruutu - a good PKer, agitator and a player who is decent shift to shift - as he's only 26. Rumors online suggest that his hands were tied by the coach when it came to fighting. I hope that explains his play for Philly, because it seemed like a significant regression from his play in Phoenix. Two years ago (and a bit last season), I would have wanted Carcillo, but his play this season was seriously underwhelming. I'd take 07-08 Carcillo on the Wings any day, but I don't want 10-11 Carcillo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 If you want the skill of Drew Miller with the dumb penalties of Bertuzzi and Abdelkader combined, he'd be great for the Wings. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 he plays the roll the flyers want i think. Even with the injury, he def. not on the downside of his career hes only 26, i just think he needs a change of scenery, and adjust his roll(which would occur with a team change most likely. A change of teams can really change a guys style of play, that being said ide like to see him on the wings for the right price, in a grinding roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 He could crack the Wings roster easily, but I wouldnt want him honestly. Dives, takes bad penalties, and is a smaller guy for what he tries to do. Speaking of Carcillo, the guy he was traded for, Scottie Upshall is a free agent. If we want a spark plug player with upside, it's him, not Carcillo. I have always loved Scotty. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 he is only 26, far from being anywhere near his prime. he could probably play some decent hockey if he stayed focused. personally, i wouldn't want him though.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 Do not want. He's so far from the WIng's radar I hadn't even thought about him. Takes STUPID penalties and only adds an agitator role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 don't need him. http://www.redwingscentral.com/prospects/mitchell-callahan/ “Daniel Carcillo in Philly is the kind of guy this guy is. He’s after you all the time, under everybody’s skin, he’s yappin’ at you and he’s doing all the things that bother everybody. He’s an agitator.” — Kelowna Rockets general manager Bruce Hamilton (June 2009) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) No log of his suspensions? Interesting. He's even going to start the upcoming season with one. Edited May 28, 2011 by cusimano_brothers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 The answer is yes, he's a douchebag. Oh, was that not the question? 1 Majsheppard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted May 28, 2011 A Philly coaching staff telling someone they can't fight. Gotta admit, that's a new one on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted May 29, 2011 he plays the roll the flyers want i think. Even with the injury, he def. not on the downside of his career hes only 26, i just think he needs a change of scenery, and adjust his roll(which would occur with a team change most likely. A change of teams can really change a guys style of play, that being said ide like to see him on the wings for the right price, in a grinding roll. What has been thought can not be unthought. Dagnabbit. He can adjust his roll on the Flyers' bench. I don't want to see it. On a totally and completely unrelated note, whenever I see "Carcillo", my brain auto-corrects to "Ciccarelli", which would be cool if we had a time machine, but that's as close to wanting Carcillo as I get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted May 29, 2011 I really liked him earlier in his career when he was in Phoenix. He fought anyone, and showed some serious offensive upside. Gretzky loved him during his coaching tenure there. He's more of an agitator now, and he hasn't really developed the offensive part of his game. I don't think the Flyers bring him back. I hope he finds a home somewhere this summer, but it won't be here. Our main concern isn't up front this offseason. Maybe a depth signing or two, but Carcillo is far too unscrupulous out there to fit into our system of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites