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James Wisniewski

Started by kipwinger, Jun 01 2011 10:07 AM

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#61 robb himself

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:21 AM

give me Wisniewski, Pitkanen and Jussi Jokinen. That is all. Boom.

be about it!

#62 chrisdetroit

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:34 AM

Agreed, but these are men, and If someone offered me 5.5 million and someone offered me 3.75mil...I'd take the 5.5 mil 11 out of 10 times. Unless of course, it was my favorite team in the city I became a man in, then I'd be more loyal to them .

Plus, there are a lot of teams that are only missing two or three key signings that would put them over the hump and make them legitament cup contenders. Look at Nashville, one or two more forwards and they are a Stanley Cup team, plus they have like 60 mil in cap space to play with.

That's a bit of an exaggeration. They have a long way to go before they are the best team in the league. They had a total of (2) 20-goal scorers last year. Compare that to Vancouver who won the President's trophy - they had (2) 40 goal scorers, a 26, a 19 and an 18.

I guess if Nashville picks us a couple of 40 goal scorers, you would be correct. How many 40 goal scorers are on the market?

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#63 Datsyerberger

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 09:46 PM

meaning offensive numbers buddy

Offense numbers are all there is to hockey.

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#64 kylee

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:07 PM

give me Wisniewski, Pitkanen and Jussi Jokinen. That is all. Boom.

I'd dig it.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:42 AM

meaning offensive numbers buddy

When Rafalski came here, he already was a proven player that could put up offensive numbers. Wisniewski has put up good numbers for 1 season. That being said, I think that Wisniewski has a better upside to him being in the prime of his career now. I just don't think we should overpay for him. 4 mil a season would be about the limit I would look at for a player like him. Especially with only 70+ games played for 1 season. Durability is a factor.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:08 AM

I'd be open to signing him.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:53 AM

Me too. Man... 6 mile is just full of them chickenheads. Which one did you pick? I'm a fan of Trixie and sometimes Lolita.

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#68 LeftWinger

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:33 PM

give me Wisniewski, Pitkanen and Jussi Jokinen. That is all. Boom.

I see your Wisniewski and Jokinen, I rasie you a Jovanovski...

#69 cjm502

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:38 PM

I see your Wisniewski and Jokinen, I rasie you a Jovanovski...

Thats disgusting.

#70 LeftWinger

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:57 PM

Thats disgusting.

I'm sorry, I meant to say, Give me Weber, Richards and trade Hudler for Ovechkin... :rolleyes:

#71 Yak19

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:40 PM

give me Wisniewski, Pitkanen and Jussi Jokinen. That is all. Boom.

Would be ecstatic if this happened

#72 cjm502

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:20 PM

I'm sorry, I meant to say, Give me Weber, Richards and trade Hudler for Ovechkin...

We can trade Huds for a bag of pucks and I wouldnt care, just keep Jovocop off of this team!

#73 Buppy

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:29 PM

When Rafalski came here, he already was a proven player that could put up offensive numbers. Wisniewski has put up good numbers for 1 season. That being said, I think that Wisniewski has a better upside to him being in the prime of his career now. I just don't think we should overpay for him. 4 mil a season would be about the limit I would look at for a player like him. Especially with only 70+ games played for 1 season. Durability is a factor.

When Rafalski came here, the cap was ~$12M lower than what it's expected to be next year. His $6M then would be like $7.4 now.

Also, Wis, in the last three years has scored 105 points in 192 games for .55 ppg. 'One-hit wonder' isn't really accurate.
Rafi in the 3 years before coming here scored 140 in 233 games for .63. That's only about 7 points in a full season.

Wis is much more physical, and about as good defensively as Rafi in '07, and a bit better than Rafi last year. And I wouldn't say durability is much of a factor; but discipline is. In ~2.5 years since coming back from knee surgery in '08, he's missed 7 games from injury and 12 from suspension. I think the Wings could curb the discipline issue, at least to some extent. I think just being on the Wings instead of Anaheim cuts the suspensions in half.

$4M is likely below market value. $5M is probably closer. If we try to pinch pennies now when we have a major need and a lot of cap room, we'll end up with crap and wasted cap space.

#74 number9

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 12:15 AM

We can trade Huds for a bag of pucks and I wouldnt care, just keep Jovocop off of this team!

of all the d-men the two ski's are the best and worst choices, wisniewski = best. jovanovski = worst.

#75 Konnan511

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 12:25 AM

of all the d-men the two ski's are the best and worst choices, wisniewski = best. jovanovski = worst.

I dunno, Ericssonski is a pretty bad choice too.

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#76 number9

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 11:24 PM

just found out that wisniewski's uncle bily dea played for the wings back in the 70s. bily dea also served as assistant coach and interim head coach in the 80s for the wings. all the more reason to love the wizzzzzzzz

#77 Never_Retire_Steve

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 11:38 PM

I would love Wiz on this team, let's do it.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 02:25 AM

I get the feeling that it would be either a perfect fit or a disaster with no in between.

That is why I would hope it is on major discount that we bring him in. Give us the opportunity to make other moves.

I also wish we would hire our defensive coach already so we can figure out exactly what type of players would help our our long term system. Maybe see who that coach has ties to...

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#79 kylee

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:21 AM

I get the feeling that it would be either a perfect fit or a disaster with no in between.

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#80 IllinoisRedWingsFan

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 09:27 PM

I get the feeling that it would be either a perfect fit or a disaster with no in between.

That is why I would hope it is on major discount that we bring him in. Give us the opportunity to make other moves.

I also wish we would hire our defensive coach already so we can figure out exactly what type of players would help our our long term system. Maybe see who that coach has ties to...

Why do you think he'll be a disaster?