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#1 MacK_Attack

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:27 AM

Here's the list of first-time eligible candidates:

- Ed Belfour
- Trevor Linden
- Glen Wesley

The remaining candidates:

- Joe Nieuwendyk
- Doug Gilmour
- Pavel Bure
- Alex Mogilny
- Eric Lindros
- Adam Oates
- John LeClair
- Phil Housley
- Theo Fleury
- Guy Carbonneau
- Dave Andreychuk
- Tom Barrasso
- Sergei Makarov
- Mark Howe

To consider, on the door-step in 2012:

- Mats Sundin
- Jeremy Roenick
- Brendan Shanahan
- Gary Roberts
- Claude Lemieux
- Olaf Kozig
- Markus Naslund
- Joe Sakic
- Curtis Joseph

Who would you pick, given four choices?

Edited by MacK_Attack, 06 June 2011 - 09:08 AM.


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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:36 AM

Pavel Bure
Doug Gilmour
Joe Nieuwendyk
Dave Andreychuk

Belfour probably deserves to get in. Honestly, I don't know, other than Bure, take your pick. I don't see why Lindros should ever be included in the Hall of Fame, if ever there was a definition of flash in the pan it was him.

Each year it becomes more clear to me how useless Hall of Fames are. I don't know if having annual inductions is a good thing, and I especially don't know if including so many players each year is a good thing. Sometimes it seems less like a Hall of Fame and more like some quota they have to fill. What would be truly impressive is being inducted into a Hall of Fame with less than 50 people in it.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:37 AM

Gilmour, Barasso, Oates, Belfour.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:01 PM

Makarov, Gilmour, Belfour, Oates

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:06 PM

Is there anyone higher than Oates on the all-time points list who isn't already in the hall?

(of those eligible of course)

I know, I know, no Stanley Cup or personal awards, but 1420 points. a very respectable 156 points in 163 playoff games. one of the best passers the game has seen and a major factor in Hull's success.

Oates should get in this time.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:36 PM

Theo could use a confidence boost like this after the last couple of s***ty years hes had...
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 01:31 PM

Bure, Gilmour, Fleury and Oates.

Belfour can always try to bribe his way in.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 01:41 PM

Bure, Belfour, Fleury and Oates.
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#9 eva unit zero

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 01:46 PM

Mark Howe, Sergei Makarov, Adam Oates and Tom Barrasso
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:38 PM

Belfour, Makarov, Howe and Oates
Red Kelly #4 and Larry Aurie #6 belong in the rafters!!!

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:13 PM

Belfour
Lindros
Bure
Oates
Andreychuk


If not for Cam Neely, I wouldn't put Bure or Lindros on the list. Pandora's box. Also, Ciccarelli's recent induction puts Andreychuk in easily.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 09:18 PM

Belfour
Lindros
Bure
Oates
Andreychuk


If not for Cam Neely, I wouldn't put Bure or Lindros on the list. Pandora's box. Also, Ciccarelli's recent induction puts Andreychuk in easily.

I think Bure and Lindros are well ahead of Neely. I see Dino as better than Andreychuk though Dino was surprising when there were much better players out there: Makarov, Howe, Oates and Gilmour.

Edited by egroen, 03 June 2011 - 09:19 PM.

Red Kelly #4 and Larry Aurie #6 belong in the rafters!!!

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:27 PM

Mark Howe, definitely. I'm biased, I know, but he should go in. The rest, looking pretty paltry, if you ask me.
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Posted 04 June 2011 - 12:58 AM

Mark Howe, definitely. I'm biased, I know, but he should go in. The rest, looking pretty paltry, if you ask me.


There's no bias there; the only defensemen in the world who were at his level during his career were Bourque, Fetisov, and arguably Coffey, Chelios, and some might put Stevens or MacInnis in that group but they weren't challenging for the Norris every year during Howe's career. What's your induction criteria? Top 30 forwards, top 20 defensemen, top 10 goalies? Top fives maybe? You can't cut Howe out unless you ignore all of the times he was a Norris finalist, Norris contender, and postseason All-Star. It would be like keeping Mike Modano out because although he had some great years, there was always someone who clearly outshined him - be it Lemieux, Fedorov, Yzerman, Gretzky, Messier, Lindros, Forsberg, Sakic, etc.

Howe has belonged in the Hall since he was first eligible.

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 01:50 PM

Larry Aurie
Adam Oates
Eddie Belfour
Pavel Bure

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 02:44 PM

The better question is if Eddie the Eagle does get inducted does he show up the HOF ceremonies drunk? :ph34r:

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 03:02 PM

Here's the list of first-time eligible candidates:

- Ed Belfour
- Trevor Linden
- Glen Wesley

The remaining candidates:

- Joe Nieuwendyk
- Doug Gilmour
- Pavel Bure
- Alex Mogilny
- Eric Lindros
- Adam Oates
- John LeClair
- Phil Housley
- Theo Fleury
- Guy Carbonneau
- Dave Andreychuk
- Tom Barrasso
- Sergei Makarov
- Mark Howe

To consider, on the door-step in 2012:

- Mats Sundin
- Jeremy Roenick
- Brendan Shanahan
- Gary Roberts
- Claude Lemieux
- Olaf Kozig
- Markus Naslund

Who would you pick, given four choices?

Hasek and Jagr not eligible this year? Or do they have to retire from hockey completely first?

Also, you're forgetting Sakic and Cujo in next year's class.

I'm guessing this year will be like last. No one really stands out, they'll probably pick one who's been waiting a while. Howe or Oates. I really doubt we'll see 4 get in.

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 10:17 PM

There's no bias there; the only defensemen in the world who were at his level during his career were Bourque, Fetisov, and arguably Coffey, Chelios, and some might put Stevens or MacInnis in that group but they weren't challenging for the Norris every year during Howe's career. What's your induction criteria? Top 30 forwards, top 20 defensemen, top 10 goalies? Top fives maybe? You can't cut Howe out unless you ignore all of the times he was a Norris finalist, Norris contender, and postseason All-Star. It would be like keeping Mike Modano out because although he had some great years, there was always someone who clearly outshined him - be it Lemieux, Fedorov, Yzerman, Gretzky, Messier, Lindros, Forsberg, Sakic, etc.

Howe has belonged in the Hall since he was first eligible.


The reason I said I might be biased is because I talk to Mark every year at training camp in TC, and he's a really nice guy. I like talking to him and he's always been willing to sit and talk to us as well. So what can I say?
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:47 AM

Belfour, Makarov, Howe and Oates


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:11 AM

Hasek and Jagr not eligible this year? Or do they have to retire from hockey completely first?

They have to retire completely (and in Hasek's case, STAY RETIRED) for three years to eligible for induction. Both are still active players.





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