Wings4Life19 150 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Not sure how reliable this site is or if this writer is just a wings & drury fan and this would be his wet dream but, if there actually is something to this I dont want to see anything for more than $1.5 mill http://www.thedetroitsportssite.com/2011/06/14/detroit-red-wings-rumors-chris-drury-could-be-this-years-mike-modano/2680 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 960 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 With the luck this guy has seen the last couple years Id have to pass. The only veteran I want to see the Wings sign is Lidstrom. 1 sputman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 For some reason the good players whom Rangers have signed to huge contracts have not produced lately. So, has Drury really gotten that much worse or was it all Rangers' fault? On the other hand Drury never scored over 70 points in his career, but still got that contract. What did they expect? Drury is 34 years old, so he could still have some good years in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 I wouldn't get excited about this addition, but I wouldn't hate it either (assuming the price is right - 1.5, or less) Also, I hate to say it, but if Drury comes in, Hudler would have to go out and this is coming from a Hudler supporter... I personally, would actually prefer to have Hudler over Drury... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 I wouldn't get excited about this addition, but I wouldn't hate it either (assuming the price is right - 1.5, or less) Also, I hate to say it, but if Drury comes in, Hudler would have to go out and this is coming from a Hudler supporter... I personally, would actually prefer to have Hudler over Drury... Even at the additional salary given your price of $1.5 or less for Drury is met? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Even at the additional salary given your price of $1.5 or less for Drury is met? Sorry, I should have made that clearer, I'm talking straight up, player to player, $$ not a factor - I'd take Hudler over Drury If Drury can be had for 1.5 or less and we can shed the additional 1.3+ AND get something in return in a trade for Hudler, I'd take Drury over Hudler, but only because of those additional factors... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus's Garden 147 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 To be fair, that reads more like a speculation/opinion piece than a report of news. I think that's the same site that had up the 10 best Lidstrom goals post that I linked on here a few weeks ago. Anyway, I'm kind of torn on this. I love Drury and think that, especially if Drapes retires or they don't bring him back, his presence in the locker room and as a third or fourth-line scorer would be great. On the other hand, as I usually do now, I'm thinking of him along the lines of: "Would he help the Wings beat the Sharks?" I can't give an affirmative to that question, so I can't get behind this 100%. For a cheap contract, I guess my verdict is go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Sorry, I should have made that clearer, I'm talking straight up, player to player, $$ not a factor - I'd take Hudler over Drury If Drury can be had for 1.5 or less and we can shed the additional 1.3+ AND get something in return in a trade for Hudler, I'd take Drury over Hudler, but only because of those additional factors... No worries, I was just curious given that's a big factor in that potential swap. I'm so unsettled on what to do about Hudler. Holland's M.O. since the the lockout has continued to be lock up your core, not overpay for your role-players and continue to let prospects reach their maturity level before coming up from GR. Obviously it's worked brilliantly and while Holland hasn't made any glaring mistakes, Hudler (for his arbitration amount) isn't really considered a steal based on his production. There's no doubt the guy can do some great things, but guys making $1.75-$2 can typically do about the same. Not everything, but perhaps not enough to warrant the difference in a cap-crunch situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 No thanks. Not at this stage of his career. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 No worries, I was just curious given that's a big factor in that potential swap. I'm so unsettled on what to do about Hudler. Holland's M.O. since the the lockout has continued to be lock up your core, not overpay for your role-players and continue to let prospects reach their maturity level before coming up from GR. Obviously it's worked brilliantly and while Holland hasn't made any glaring mistakes, Hudler (for his arbitration amount) isn't really considered a steal based on his production. There's no doubt the guy can do some great things, but guys making $1.75-$2 can typically do about the same. Not everything, but perhaps not enough to warrant the difference in a cap-crunch situation. Agreed... there's times where I just want us to cut bait and then there are moments like his 2nd half of the season last year where he shows flashes of brilliance and that shift back to the NHL from the KHL is BIG, so I kinda want to see what he can do in year 2 back... but at the same token, if we can get something decent in return for him and bring in someone else to fill his role, it's hard to argue against that, considering how he disappeared in the playoffs... he's a head scratcher for sure... With all that said, if Drury comes here in his place and puts up a real stinker and Hudler goes off for a career year elsewhere, how many people will be up in arms about that? It's a gamble either way in my mind... 1 NeverForgetMac25 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 No thanks. Not at this stage of his career. Perfect post and picture. No thanks! If this was the Drury of like 6 years ago from Buffalo that tore the league up with Breire then yes! But it's not, so pass for me! 1 Travis reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 He never should have left Buffalo. To his credit, Briere has fared well with the Flyers, but Drury's time with his new team has been for the most part, miserable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 He never should have left Buffalo. To his credit, Briere has fared well with the Flyers, but Drury's time with his new team has been for the most part, miserable. At the same token, he already got a cup with Col and he got a huge payday... at the end of the day, it's a business too and he, and his family, are now in a MUCH better situation for their future because of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Agreed... there's times where I just want us to cut bait and then there are moments like his 2nd half of the season last year where he shows flashes of brilliance and that shift back to the NHL from the KHL is BIG, so I kinda want to see what he can do in year 2 back... but at the same token, if we can get something decent in return for him and bring in someone else to fill his role, it's hard to argue against that, considering how he disappeared in the playoffs... he's a head scratcher for sure... With all that said, if Drury comes here in his place and puts up a real stinker and Hudler goes off for a career year elsewhere, how many people will be up in arms about that? It's a gamble either way in my mind... I see what you're saying here, but it's extremely likely that he WOULD have a career year somewhere else. Any team he would go to would likely not have the front line scoring depth that we do and so he would therefore play more minutes and with better players than he does on our team. However, that doesn't mean that we aren't better off after any potential trade. Think Leino. Did Leino look WAY better after leaving Detroit? Yes. Are we a better team without him? Yes. Not arguing for or against keeping Hudler (I have never liked him though). But if he goes somewhere else, he's going to score a lot more. That in no way, validates or invalidates any potential trade. Depending on the moves we make, just clearing his cap space for nothing, regardless of how well he plays somewhere else, might end up being the best thing we could have done with him. What does this have to do with Drury? Who the hell knows. Everything equal, I'll keep Hudler I guess. Edited June 15, 2011 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 Agreed... there's times where I just want us to cut bait and then there are moments like his 2nd half of the season last year where he shows flashes of brilliance and that shift back to the NHL from the KHL is BIG, so I kinda want to see what he can do in year 2 back... but at the same token, if we can get something decent in return for him and bring in someone else to fill his role, it's hard to argue against that, considering how he disappeared in the playoffs... he's a head scratcher for sure... With all that said, if Drury comes here in his place and puts up a real stinker and Hudler goes off for a career year elsewhere, how many people will be up in arms about that? It's a gamble either way in my mind... Completely agree. I will say the one thing we have on our side is the fact that he's in a contract year. Couple that with having a year under his belt since his return from the KHL and we "should" see a much more consistent season out of him. If not, it'll be the easiest decision Holland will ever have to make come the 2012 off-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 I think this kind of signing will come down to the negotiations with Eaves and Miller.... If we cannot sign either one or maybe even just one of them - I can see us making a push to sign Drury to a 1 year, 1.5 million contract. I personally wouldn't mind it, but some will cite is ineffectiveness with NYR as a reason to say No. I just don't see it as that cut and dry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 I see what you're saying here, but it's extremely likely that he WOULD have a career year somewhere else. Any team he would go to would likely not have the front line scoring depth that we do and so he would therefore play more minutes and with better players than he does on our team. However, that doesn't mean that we aren't better off after any potential trade. Think Leino. Did Leino look WAY better after leaving Detroit? Yes. Are we a better team without him? Yes. Not arguing for or against keeping Hudler (I have never liked him though). But if he goes somewhere else, he's going to score a lot more. That in no way, validates or invalidates any potential trade. Depending on the moves we make, just clearing his cap space for nothing, regardless of how well he plays somewhere else, might end up being the best thing we could have done with him. What does this have to do with Drury? Who the hell knows. Everything equal, I'll keep Hudler I guess. I think your assessment is pretty dead on, I just think a lot of people would be up in arms if it happened, not that it would mean we made the wrong move... if Holland decides that is what is best for the team, it is... also, Leino is the perfect comparison, he needed to be moved and we're better without him, but look how many people still bitched about that move... it's just something to think about... How does every thread here become about Hudler lately? And I'm not saying you're at fault here for this one, just pointing out the trend in ALL threads lately... I'm pretty convinced that a thread about our Grand Rapids Goaltending coach could somehow come back to Hudler (or Ericsson) at this point... ok, ok, back on track - I really think Drury's best years are behind him and there are a ton of guys I would want here over him, but at a major discount, on a one year deal, I wouldn't hate the gamble on him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 15, 2011 For some reason the good players whom Rangers have signed to huge contracts have not produced lately. So, has Drury really gotten that much worse or was it all Rangers' fault? On the other hand Drury never scored over 70 points in his career, but still got that contract. What did they expect? Glen Sather does not do things based on logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 At the same token, he already got a cup with Col and he got a huge payday... at the end of the day, it's a business too and he, and his family, are now in a MUCH better situation for their future because of it... He mailed it in after the LLWS title. 1 Mitchmac33 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted June 15, 2011 I would take drury if hes cheap >1.5mil. Great on the PK. Great leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted June 18, 2011 Rangers can't buy out injured Drury Not sure how true this article by Brooks is. any cap gurus around? if this is true i have to say i really appreciate that Rafalski decided to hang the skates up and not handcuff the organization because of his cap hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted June 18, 2011 Rangers can't buy out injured Drury Not sure how true this article by Brooks is. any cap gurus around? if this is true i have to say i really appreciate that Rafalski decided to hang the skates up and not handcuff the organization because of his cap hit. It's a little premature of Brooks to say "can't". "Might not" is more accurate. They could still potentially buy him out, depending on whether he says 'no' in regards to the knee. They may be able to talk him into retiring and taking an office job because of said knee (which would be better than a buyout). If he does say no to a buyout, then the Rags put him on LTIR (probably the whole year). Brooks is certainly correct in that a buyout may not happen because of rules regarding buyouts and injuries, but it's a little early for "can't". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 19, 2011 For some reason the good players whom Rangers have signed to huge contracts have not produced lately. So, has Drury really gotten that much worse or was it all Rangers' fault? On the other hand Drury never scored over 70 points in his career, but still got that contract. What did they expect? The Rangers are going to join the American League, and needed a core piece. Drury is supposed to be their #1 pitcher. 1 Nevermind reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted June 19, 2011 well if this is true and they have to keep his salary on the books, its one less destination for richards. its toronto or long shot take a salary hit to come here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted June 19, 2011 The Rangers are going to join the American League, and needed a core piece. Drury is supposed to be their #1 pitcher. There's already a team called The Rangers in the AL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
