No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

There, I formatted that better for you, for those of us that speak English

I'm pretty sure that is what you were trying to say...

EDIT - In response to your post, I wouldn't HATE the signing if it's 1.5 or less, but I still wouldn't like it... and with that said, Pitt is in a worse cap situation than us, so it makes sense they aren't willing to pony up the extra 500k - that's a 4th liner for them and a roster spot...

Thank ya, I just woke up and I'm not quite in English major mode yet

I wouldn't hate it either, just never imagined we'd be interested in Jagr of all people this offseason. Guess we'll see whats going to happen.

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

Crosby, Malkin and Jagr all on one team. That would be sick for a all-time fantasy draft

[stevkrause 1,247]

Thank ya, I just woke up and I'm not quite in English major mode yet

I wouldn't hate it either, just never imagined we'd be interested in Jagr of all people this offseason. Guess we'll see whats going to happen.

happens to the best of us!

I'm with you on that, the Jagr thing really came out of left field to me and I'm really surprised in the steam it's picked up...

[Kingston 21]

http://www.thedetroitsportssite.com/2011/06/21/red-wings-inching-closer-to-signing-jaromir-jagr/3020

Pierre LeBrun of ESPN tweeted just before noon Tuesday that the Detroit Red Wings have offered the most money to free agent Jaromir Jagr, making Detroit a frontrunner for the Czech winger.

Money obviously isn’t everything, but it is clearly playing a part in Jagr’s decision-making. The fact the Wings are already offering the most, coupled with the Jagr’s expressed interest in playing for Detroit, make it seem like this marriage will be a lock shortly. While the terms of the proposed deal are not known, you have to imagine it couldn’t be much more than the one Mike Modano got last year ($1.25 million).

The Red Wings franchise has to be hoping Jagr would be able to add more to the team than Modano did last year. Jagr was a dangerous scorer in his prime with the Pittsburgh Penguins, but nothing guarantees he still will be. The former Penguin, Washington Capital and New York Ranger is 39 and will turn 40 halfway through next season. His age alone, plus the wear and tear of more than 1,000 career games played, has to be a cause for concern.

Jagr is no longer the 100 point-per-year player he was in the 90s, but if he could recapture just a fraction of what he accomplished during his second stint with the Rangers, the Wings would have to be happy. He would fit nicely on the second or third line and could be a huge boon for a Detroit offense than had trouble producing in the second round of the playoffs last year.

The last three years of Jagr’s career have been spent in the KHL playing for Omsk Avangard, which is certainly different than the NHL. Despite the league being far less superior than the NHL, he still showed some promise with more than 50 points in two of the three seasons. Nothing says those numbers will translate back to the NHL — they certainly did not for Jiri Hudler, who also had a stint in the KHL — but no one will know if they will until he plays in the league again.

If the Red Wings dedicate a lot of money to him, then signing Jagr could be a risky proposition. At the same time though, if they sign him and make a serious Stanley Cup run, then it would be worth it. Sure, he is almost 40, but if there is one thing we know about the Detroit Red Wings, it is that they can handle older players and revive their careers with surgical precision.

Edited June 21, 2011 by Kingston

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

I didn't know his agent is Petr Svoboda.

[Konnan511 1,736]

Jagr at 2mil is better than Hudler at 3mil since they'll give you the same point totals and Jagr would show more hustle and effort out there.

[stevkrause 1,247]

Jagr at 2mil is better than Hudler at 3mil since they'll give you the same point totals and Jagr would show more hustle and effort out there.

I was with you until the part in bold... I think that part is VERY debatable...

[Crashnburnluder 385]

I will say that if jagr actually does out hustle Hudler and play with more effort he better out score him by a decent margin. Jagr has a lot more skill, size and a better shot. He also would receive more ice time in that case.

So in part in definitely expecting Jagr to out score Hudler, due to skill and size alone.

[BigWillieStyle 662]

Next headline: "Half of LGW inches closer to edge of Ambassador Bridge, upon hearing Jagr signing is close".

[Konnan511 1,736]

I was with you until the part in bold... I think that part is VERY debatable...

His last season in the NHL he played every game, lead the team in points and was tied for 2nd in +/-. The Rangers that year told him to play defense and he did, albeit average defense, he still did. Not to mention, he and Gomez were basically the only guys to show any heart that season.Hell, he dominated in the playoffs posting 15 points in 10 games. If Lundy didn't choke it up in the playoffs, they had a great shot at meeting us in the Finals.

Edited June 21, 2011 by Konnan511

[stevkrause 1,247]

I will say that if jagr actually does out hustle Hudler and play with more effort he better out score him by a decent margin. Jagr has a lot more skill, size and a better shot. He also would receive more ice time in that case.

So in part in definitely expecting Jagr to out score Hudler, due to skill and size alone.

One thing Jagr will not be confused with, is a tireless worker, even in his prime, he's always been a little lazy... but like you just touched on, due to his supreme size, skill and shot, it hasn't hurt him too much... with that said, that's one of the only advantages he has going for him, is that his game was always based off of ability to hold onto the puck, good positioning and incredible accuracy (passing and shooting) and fortunately, those things don't decline the same with age as speed and strong defensive players...

Edited June 21, 2011 by stevkrause

[stevkrause 1,247]

His last season in the NHL he played every game, lead the team in points and was tied for 2nd in +/-. The Rangers that year told him to play defense and he did, albeit average defense, he still did. Not to mention, he and Gomez were basically the only guys to show any heart that season.Hell, he dominated in the playoffs posting 15 points in 10 games. If Lundy didn't choke it up in the playoffs, they had a great shot at meeting us in the Finals.

I'd STILL give Hudler an edge on speed and work ethic and needless to say, those aren't exactly his strong suits...

+/- doesn't always equal good defense, especially for a forward, and a scoring forward at that... keep in mind, Hudler is also a career + player in the regular season and the playoffs...

once again, I'd still probably take Jagr at 1.5 over Hudler at 2.8, but lets not make Jagr out to be something he's not, especially 3 years later and 3 years removed from NHL play...

[pucktividi 472]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6686396

"Obviously Mario (Lemieux) is the owner. The team they got, (Sidney) Crosby and (Evgeni) Malkin, plus other great players, if I went there it would be a lot easier," added Jagr, speaking to ESPN.com via cell phone from his native Czech Republic. "But on the other side, Detroit has great players and play closer to my style, a Euro style. That's a plus. And (Nicklas) Lidstrom is there, plus (Pavel) Datsyuk and (Henrik) Zetterberg -- great, great players."

[Konnan511 1,736]

I'd STILL give Hudler an edge on speed and work ethic and needless to say, those aren't exactly his strong suits...

+/- doesn't always equal good defense, especially for a forward, and a scoring forward at that... keep in mind, Hudler is also a career + player in the regular season and the playoffs...

once again, I'd still probably take Jagr at 1.5 over Hudler at 2.8, but lets not make Jagr out to be something he's not, especially 3 years later and 3 years removed from NHL play...

I know that about the +/- thing, but I was touching on the fact that the Rangers told him to play defense that year, and he did. The +/- thing was to show that even at 35 years of age, he was still a beast and still dominated on the ice. Jagr is much faster than Hudler, go back and watch the Worlds to see that, not to mention he has tremendous work ethic. Don't confuse lack luster defense with a poor work ethic. You can't have poor work ethic to be a dominant hockey player at nearly 40 years of age.

But as stated Jagr @ 1.5-2mil > Hudler at 2.8mil

Edited June 21, 2011 by Konnan511

[Mitchmac33 103]

Is it even legal to offer a deal to jagr before july 1st?

[Nyquistfan14 489]

Where does it say that the wings offered 2 mill for Jagr?

[Konnan511 1,736]

Is it even legal to offer a deal to jagr before july 1st?

Yes, but I don't think it'd start until July 5th or something?

[stevkrause 1,247]

Is it even legal to offer a deal to jagr before july 1st?

yes, because he's already an UFA, whereas other players that are currently under contract don't become UFA's until 7/1 when their current contracts expire

[Crashnburnluder 385]

kinda sucks that we probably won't have an answer by today, but I'm thinking tom. it will finally be resolved.

[stevkrause 1,247]

kinda sucks that we probably won't have an answer by today, but I'm thinking tom. it will finally be resolved.

I think his decision won't come until Fri before the draft...

[RedWingsRox 614]

Oh Mario, please offer him more!

I thought the experiment to bring over the hill, old veterans from other team ended with Mike Modano.

[germanwing 154]

[Mitchmac33 103]

yes, because he's already an UFA, whereas other players that are currently under contract don't become UFA's until 7/1 when their current contracts expire

cool, thanks.

[ami 273]

ARE YOU F-KING KIDDING ME?!!

I was out of town and away from internet for a couple of days. And now I am shocked and terrified when I saw the development on this story. I have almost vomit when I read 'Wings offered 2 mils'...

ARE YOU F-KING KIDDING???!!!

This idiot himself has to pay Wings no less than $2 mils to play for the team and he has to pay for a couple thousand season tickets and give it away for charity and then, and only then Wings may consider him...

Mr. Holland, please PASS ON!!! Please do not ruin Nick's last year and his run for the Cup!!!

[SwedeLundin77 460]

ARE YOU F-KING KIDDING ME?!!

I was out of town and away from internet for a couple of days. And now I am shocked and terrified when I saw the development on this story. I have almost vomit when I read 'Wings offered 2 mils'...

ARE YOU F-KING KIDDING???!!!

This idiot himself has to pay Wings no less than $2 mils to play for the team and he has to pay for a couple thousand season tickets and give it away for charity and then, and only then Wings may consider him...

Mr. Holland, please PASS ON!!! Please do not ruin Nick's last year and his run for the Cup!!!

Overreact much?