Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Something no one has touched on yet, so who's going to be the Flyers captain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 So now they will go from losing 6-5 to losing 3-1? Something no one has touched on yet, so who's going to be the Flyers captain? Pronger of course! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 So now they will go from losing 6-5 to losing 3-1? Pronger of course! At $5.6 a year, it had better be Bryz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Holmgren just killed the Flyers because he "had" to have Bryzgalov. They are now a non-playoff team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingZNut13 99 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 At $5.6 a year, it had better be Bryz. Bryz couldn't lead lemmings off of a cliff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Holmgren just killed the Flyers because he "had" to have Bryzgalov. They are now a non-playoff team. Sounds familiar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 24, 2011 At $5.6 a year, it had better be Bryz. Luongo was the first goalie in awhile to be a captain, and he'll probably be the last for awhile as well. Also, Bryzgalov is something of a gruff character with a bad attitude; I doubt he's fit to be captain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Luongo was the first goalie in awhile to be a captain, and he'll probably be the last for awhile as well. Also, Bryzgalov is something of a gruff character with a bad attitude; I doubt he's fit to be captain. I know.. I was just.. 'cause it's his contra... but he.. Nevermind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Something no one has touched on yet, so who's going to be the Flyers captain? Pronger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 looking at this trade I actually might think the flyers come out on top in this one. They solve their goalie issues, get a guy who is giong to be better version of Richards in Schenn, a very good third liner in Simmonds, a potential star in Voracek, probably one of Strome, Murphy or Courturier and some more solid depth picks. In carter they lose a long contract that doesnt play in the playoffs, and yeah giving up Richards may seem like a lot but JVR and Giroux are ready to step up. I expect 80 points out of Giroux very soon. I actually think the flyers come out on top of ths one 1 Konnan511 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Pronger. Well then, wont be cheering for Philly to do well any time soon. Also, Prongers got a pretty good track record as captain right? Not like he's been to 3 cup finals and won one of them as an assistant.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 They got heat from the media for partying with pornstars or something. I never saw the big deal. You don't see the BIG deal in that photo you posted? Although probably fake, those are quite a set of BIG deals. One of them is sticking out a nipp-I mean, a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Well Giroux's come into his own, so they must be really high on JVR breaking out this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Well, the West got better and Philly didn't get a whole lot worse. All the teams involved seemed to have received good deals. The Flyers GM really did get some great value for their players, he has to be happy with all things considered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Love all the drama! I wonder what that Flyers locker room was really like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 looking at this trade I actually might think the flyers come out on top in this one. They solve their goalie issues, get a guy who is giong to be better version of Richards in Schenn, a very good third liner in Simmonds, a potential star in Voracek, probably one of Strome, Murphy or Courturier and some more solid depth picks. In carter they lose a long contract that doesnt play in the playoffs, and yeah giving up Richards may seem like a lot but JVR and Giroux are ready to step up. I expect 80 points out of Giroux very soon. I actually think the flyers come out on top of ths one From what I've read, Schenn's upside is Richards. This is second hand info, but it seems to be the majority opinion. I think the Flyers can win this in the long-term (depending on development and the goalie situation), but LA and Columbus win in the short-term. Columbus needs to make the playoffs soon (how they do in the playoffs is the next step), and Carter is a big step toward that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Both Richards and Carter? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Both Richards and Carter? WTF? The bigger wtf moment is when they also sign an unproven goalie to nearly a decade deal. Heck, I wouldn't sign any goalie to a long term like that. Proven or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) looking at this trade I actually might think the flyers come out on top in this one. They solve their goalie issues, get a guy who is giong to be better version of Richards in Schenn, a very good third liner in Simmonds, a potential star in Voracek, probably one of Strome, Murphy or Courturier and some more solid depth picks. In carter they lose a long contract that doesnt play in the playoffs, and yeah giving up Richards may seem like a lot but JVR and Giroux are ready to step up. I expect 80 points out of Giroux very soon. I actually think the flyers come out on top of ths one Let me know when Schenn actually does become at the same level as Richards, let alone better. The Flyers do have players that could perform, but what are the odds the increased roles they are given hurt them in the next coming years? Detroit's secondary forwards thrived in 08 and 09 because there was so much depth on the team. The Flyers getting worse on depth (and getting rid of a 40 goal scorer AND another forward a year removed from a potential Conn Smythe worthy season) isn't magically made up by their acquisition of Bryz. As we saw in the first round this year, the guy can be a head case. And he is on contract till he is 39. Edited June 24, 2011 by Doc Holliday 1 redwings4life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 With Bryzgalov signing such a long deal with Philadelphia they must have a lot of Russian people there, right guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 Someone quick - tell Holland to have Holmgren re-negotiate Briere's contract to $1 million per season and then trade him to Detroit while he's still off his meds. Quick! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 looking at this trade I actually might think the flyers come out on top in this one. They solve their goalie issues, get a guy who is giong to be better version of Richards in Schenn, a very good third liner in Simmonds, a potential star in Voracek, probably one of Strome, Murphy or Courturier and some more solid depth picks. In carter they lose a long contract that doesnt play in the playoffs, and yeah giving up Richards may seem like a lot but JVR and Giroux are ready to step up. I expect 80 points out of Giroux very soon. I actually think the flyers come out on top of ths one I have the same sentiments. They took a step back this coming season, but in two or three season from now they are strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 im guessing philly is going after a long term contract with brad richards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 I have the same sentiments. They took a step back this coming season, but in two or three season from now they are strong. In 2-3 years ... Kimmo Timonen will be 38-39. Chris Pronger will be 38-39. Danny Briere will be 35-36. Ilya Bryzgalov will be 34-35. You don't think that is an issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 24, 2011 In 2-3 years ... Kimmo Timonen will be 38-39. Chris Pronger will be 38-39. Danny Briere will be 35-36. Ilya Bryzgalov will be 34-35. You don't think that is an issue? Honestly, no. Pronger and Timonen are getting up there in age but it's not unusual anymore for an upper 30s player to still be very effective. And I don't see Briere or Bryzgalov's ages affecting them at all. Philly got the good end of this deal, probably. Columbus got themselves a star but it won't help them any in the long run, they need to have some sort of structure for their team and a great supporting cast to get anywhere (See: Tampa). And I'm not so sure I pull the trigger on the LA part of the deal if I'm the Kings. The bigger wtf moment is when they also sign an unproven goalie to nearly a decade deal. Heck, I wouldn't sign any goalie to a long term like that. Proven or not. Exactly. Some teams just don't get it. It's not a goalie's league anymore, the only thing you can realistically hope for is a stable goalie who doesn't make huge mistakes but can't steal games all the time (See: Howard). Why someone would overpay when they could probably get a good goalie in a trade or through free agency for much less boggles my mind. I know they needed a goalie, but there would have been better options out there. That being said, Bryz will play well for them for a couple years at least, but they won't win anything big with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
