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#241 GMRwings1983

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:44 PM

In say 4-5 years...

Filppula - Datsyuk - Franzen
Tatar - Zetterberg - Jurco
Nyquist - Jarnkrok - Pulkkinen
Abdealkder - Helm - Mursak

Sheahan, Andersson, Ferraro all there or there abouts too.

Scary. Obviously a few what if's, but still...


:lol:

That lineup would make last year's team look like the Broad Street Bullies.
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 01:11 PM

He seemed to fall because of his inconsistency. I've read scouting reports that called him mature so I'm interested in where you got your "cocky ****** bag" info.

Here's a snippet from a Red Wings scout:



Like I said-- I'd like to see where you read that he's a ******.


Exactly, i've never heard a bad thing about him, except from opposing goalies. As soon as he found out he was drafted by the Wings he immediately went to the media to gush about Zetterberg and Datsyuk and said it's been a lifelong dream to play with Datsyuk some day...

Doesn't sound like a cocky douchebag...

Plus, i highly doubt TSN would ever use the phrase "cocky douchebag".

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That lineup would make last year's team look like the Broad Street Bullies.


And that team would skate circles around last years team...your point?
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 01:22 PM

I think you're reading too much into it. Its more likely that they decided that none of the remaining players in the 7th round had any shot of ever making it to the NHL anyway and decided it was better to take the risk on Marchenko on the off chance that he could be persuaded to come to the NHL someday. Im not saying he'll never play for the Red Wings, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

From the draft wrap-up by Khan on Mlive, it sounds like the Wings scouts had already met with him numerous times, and are confident he will come over - as early as next year.
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 02:00 PM

Exactly, i've never heard a bad thing about him, except from opposing goalies. As soon as he found out he was drafted by the Wings he immediately went to the media to gush about Zetterberg and Datsyuk and said it's been a lifelong dream to play with Datsyuk some day...

Doesn't sound like a cocky douchebag...

Plus, i highly doubt TSN would ever use the phrase "cocky douchebag".



And that team would skate circles around last years team...your point?


Actually, they wouldn't skate circles around anyone.

They'd just skate in circles period.
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 02:19 PM

Collection of Jurco YouTube clips:

http://ca.sports.yah...orhockey-272723
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 03:11 PM

Tatar-Jarnkrok-Jurco
Nyquist-Sheahan-Pulkkinen
Axelsson-Andersson-Nestrasil
Raedeke-Aubry-Callahan
Ferraro-Parkes

Smith-Lashoff
Almqvist-Jensen
Fournier-Nicastro
Ouelette

McCollum-Mrazek

No Mursak because he's already a Red Wing.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 03:22 PM

I think you're reading too much into it. Its more likely that they decided that none of the remaining players in the 7th round had any shot of ever making it to the NHL anyway and decided it was better to take the risk on Marchenko on the off chance that he could be persuaded to come to the NHL someday. Im not saying he'll never play for the Red Wings, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.


This should put this to rest. Directly from Nill's mouth:

"Hes one of the better young defensemen in Russia," Nill said. "Our Russian scouts know him well and he says he wants to come out in a year. So we feel we have the ability to get him (to North America) if we need to."


http://www.mlive.com...o_land_tom.html

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 03:36 PM

Loving this pick and I know some others will love it too.

The Wings continued what has become a theme this year. They drafted a player who is:

-Big

-Playing in the CHL

-From the former Czechoslovakia (he’s from the Czech Republic though, while Jurco and Tvrdon are from Slovakia)


Richard Nedomlel joined the Swift Current Broncos of the WHL this past season, his first in North America.

If you’re looking for a defenseman to score goals for your team, Nedomlel is not your guy.

If you want someone to run the other team through the boards, give him a call.

At 6’4″ and 204 pounds, Nedomlel is a beast on the ice. In 2009-2010, his last year in the Czech league, he put up 221 penalty minutes in just 41 games, while helping his team win the league championship.

In his first year with Swift Current, he had 107 PIM in 66 games. He had 7 fights this season, and I’ve noticed two things about his fights.

First, he is usually standing up for his teammates when he drops the gloves.

Second, he doesn’t lose fights. He uses his long reach and a powerful right jab to keep opponent’s at bay, and usually scores the take down as well.

He reminds me of a young Derian Hatcher, who was among the best “tough guy” defenders in the league for a time. Really excited to see if this guy can hack it at the professional level, because he is as tough as they get.


http://sportsnationn...chard-nedomlel/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0FLChv2FE

Edited by redwingfan19, 26 June 2011 - 03:37 PM.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 03:38 PM

Was a great draft. Lots of size and skill. Defence cupboard got re-stocked well :thumbup:

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 04:44 PM

Was a great draft. Lots of size and skill. Defence cupboard got re-stocked well :thumbup:


Exactly. That first round trade for the two second rounders was monumental. We drafted unarguably the best defender in the draft in the 7th round and got arguably the best offensive defensemen with one of those 2nd rounders. On top of that, we got an uber light Derian Hatcher and a guy who is bigger than Datsyuk, but pattens his game after him. Last year we got the best young gun in the SML and one of the best Swedish young guns in the SEL, size be damned. This season we got bigger, meaner, and Czechoslovakianer,
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:03 PM

Exactly. That first round trade for the two second rounders was monumental. We drafted unarguably the best defender in the draft in the 7th round and got arguably the best offensive defensemen with one of those 2nd rounders. On top of that, we got an uber light Derian Hatcher and a guy who is bigger than Datsyuk, but pattens his game after him. Last year we got the best young gun in the SML and one of the best Swedish young guns in the SEL, size be damned. This season we got bigger, meaner, and Czechoslovakianer,


Clearly Holland addressed this teams needs by drafting a lot of large guys that can czech people.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:11 PM

Clearly Holland addressed this teams needs by drafting a lot of large guys that can czech people.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:12 PM

Clearly Holland addressed this teams needs by drafting a lot of large guys that can czech people.

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A good free agency he'll be Finnished.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:13 PM

A good free agency he'll be Finnished.


Let's just hope he doesn't go Russian in to free agency, though.
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:19 PM

Let's just hope he doesn't go Russian in to free agency, though.


Hopefully they aren't german it up in the locker room with people coming from so many different nations.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:20 PM

Hopefully they aren't german it up in the locker room with people coming from so many different nations.


That wouldn't be Swede at all.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:24 PM

That wouldn't be Swede at all.


Do you think Hudler cares where his Polands?
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:38 PM

Meet Tomas Jurco, "The Cocky Douchebag" :P


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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:38 PM

Do you think Hudler cares where his Polands?


:lol:

If it even has a beginning then he needs to incorporate some kegel exercises. All the prostitutes he's been with say he needs to take more ginseng because they really don't have a taste for Slovaks.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:52 PM

Nedomlel Interview (Audio)
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