redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) carcillo to hawks still hoping kenny picks up a tough guy to keep guys like carcillo in check. one year 775K Edited July 1, 2011 by redwingfan19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 carcillo to hawks still hoping kenny picks up a tough guy to keep guys like carcillo in check. I don't see it happening due to the Miller signing - that would be too many forwards (remembering Mursak and Emmerton are out of options). Not that I'd mind a player like that, it's just clearly not in the plans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 The ONLY way we get a forward is if someone is traded...we already have 14 forwards. 6 defensmen and 1 goalie. Holland has $9.9M to spend on one more D and one G. So not unless he has a trade in the works, this will be our lineup basically and Holland will have $8M-ish of wasted Cap space. Holland shot the pooch today... And guys, ***** about Wiz's comments all you want, but blame Lidstrom and the like for taking contracts that are considered "Home Town Discounts" because now Holland has the mindset that NOONE can play for the Wings and make more than the Big three. So don't expect Suter next off season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 The ONLY way we get a forward is if someone is traded...we already have 14 forwards. 6 defensmen and 1 goalie. Holland has $9.9M to spend on one more D and one G. So not unless he has a trade in the works, this will be our lineup basically and Holland will have $8M-ish of wasted Cap space. Holland shot the pooch today... And guys, ***** about Wiz's comments all you want, but blame Lidstrom and the like for taking contracts that are considered "Home Town Discounts" because now Holland has the mindset that NOONE can play for the Wings and make more than the Big three. So don't expect Suter next off season... I'd rather have the Wings trade and take on cap space, then waste money on some of the mediocore players that have proved nothing in their careers getting long and expensive contracts. 2 ogreslayer and greenrebellion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 The ONLY way we get a forward is if someone is traded...we already have 14 forwards. 6 defensmen and 1 goalie. Holland has $9.9M to spend on one more D and one G. So not unless he has a trade in the works, this will be our lineup basically and Holland will have $8M-ish of wasted Cap space. Holland shot the pooch today... And guys, ***** about Wiz's comments all you want, but blame Lidstrom and the like for taking contracts that are considered "Home Town Discounts" because now Holland has the mindset that NOONE can play for the Wings and make more than the Big three. So don't expect Suter next off season... Seriously, it's Day 1 of the UFA period and we're already bitching. I was ticked earlier at the inaction, but I honestly believe their is a trade plan going on behind closed doors. Or at the least we are exploring some of the UFA d-men available. Anything we do will be short term, as next off-season could be a better opportunity and it will give Holland more freedom to re-sign Kronwall and Stuart. Commodore is a solid 5/6 d-man, and that was a need, too. He WILL be better than Salei. I just refuse to accept that with 9.8 million, we're done and won't at least spend another 6.5-7 million. I think we'll be big players at the trade deadline, especially if we cannot move Huds. That dynamic might be changing slightly, look at Ericsson, that was not typical hometown discount at all. With the increased cap, things need to change. Wiz is more than likely a minority in his mentality about the Wings. s***, Bieksa already said the opposite before re-signing with Vancouver about taking a little less money to play with a contender/solid team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 I don't see it happening due to the Miller signing - that would be too many forwards (remembering Mursak and Emmerton are out of options). Not that I'd mind a player like that, it's just clearly not in the plans. Yeah, but if we don't bring in a deterrent, maybe Konopka or even Janssen, those Chicago games are going to be brutal to watch. Carcillo and Mayers, two bonafide head-hunters? Who's the deterrent? Bertuzzi and Comodore? No, if Holland has any intelligence left in that head of his(and after the Ericsson signing, I just don't know) he'd sign an enforcer. I'm sick of having a team full of little ******* every season just because our GM disapproves of fighting. 1 redwingfan19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 Yeah, but if we don't bring in a deterrent, maybe Konopka or even Janssen, those Chicago games are going to be brutal to watch. Carcillo and Mayers, two bonafide head-hunters? Who's the deterrent? Bertuzzi and Comodore? No, if Holland has any intelligence left in that head of his(and after the Ericsson signing, I just don't know) he'd sign an enforcer. I'm sick of having a team full of little ******* every season just because our GM disapproves of fighting. The Wings will just punish teams with their 5th place power play now minus Rafalski. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 Notable UFA D-men Available: Bryan McCabe - 36 Scott Hannan - 32 Tomas Kaberle - 33 Craig Rivet - 36 Ian White - 27 Anton Stralman - 24 Shane O'Brien - 27 Anton Babchuk - 27 Lee Sweatt - 24] The guys in bold are the guys I'd like us to target now as a number 4 guy if we go this route. Primarily I'd like White or Babchuk, but Sweatt could be an interesting pick-up. This is not ideal, but if we're talking about short term contracts, it's definitely something I'm sure the brass is discussing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingzetter 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 Are we even looking for a top four d or is holland stratified Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 Our power play is going to be awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings4Life19 150 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) edit: old news Edited July 2, 2011 by Wings4Life19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingzetter 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 yes I am not a happy camper...this was a disappointing day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 Per Gord Miller and Bob McKenzie of TSN, the San Jose Sharks have signed Michal Handzus to a two-year deal for $2.5m a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 SJ signs Handzus 2 years $2.5 per Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 SJ signs Handzus 2 years $2.5 per Oh crap. They just keep getting better. Handzus isn't amazing, but they're still bolstering their goal-scoring ability. Lord I hope we have a chance at Gagne...and have plans to improve our D obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 panthers sign bergenhiem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 Boucher is gone. Auld is gone. Is Kenny thinking of bringing back Conklin or going to go with Joey Mac? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 Holland must still be on the toillet reading a newpaper. Gagne, Richards, Kaberle (gulp) would be fine. Anything less won't really stimulate me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 fedotenko signs with rags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) How many Czechs would we have if we went after Kaberle? Do you think Hudler would play better if he had a friend from the homeland? Just 'checked' - Tatar, Kindl, and Hudler. Kaberle is pretty good in regular season, this was his first post-season so hopefully with some vets around him and that year of experience, he'll do better. Let's go after him. Edited July 2, 2011 by RedWingsRox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingzetter 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 Boucher is gone. Auld is gone. Is Kenny thinking of bringing back Conklin or going to go with Joey Mac? Lol I think hey going with ozzy...not good wings needto do somthing quick...get a d a someone cheap but good on off How many Czechs would we have if we went after Kaberle? Do you think Hudler would play better if he had a friend from the homeland? Just 'checked' - Tatar, Kindl, and er. Kaberle is pretty good in regular season, this was his first post-season so hopefully with some vets around him and that year of experience, he'll do better. Let's go after him. At this point I'd be happy with kaberle..that's sad..but it might make hudler play better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 Lol I think hey going with ozzy...not good wings needto do somthing quick...get a d a someone cheap but good on off Not to be a dick, but your posts aren't even coherent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingzetter 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 Lol drunk after a day like this lol 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 I really hope we do go with Ozzy. I mean, we aren't being serious about making the team better, so at least we can take care of our own. 2 drewmoff and redwingfan19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted July 2, 2011 I really hope we do go with Ozzy. I mean, we aren't being serious about making the team better, so at least we can take care of our own. I would love to take care of our own, but the fact remains that at this point, Ozzie is too fragile. It would be nice to give Jimmy 20 games off and I don't think Ozzie has the health anymore to accomplish that. Don't tell him that, of course. We'll see Conklin, Turco, or Nabokov via trade before we see Ozzie. Holland must still be on the toillet reading a newpaper. Gagne, Richards, Kaberle (gulp) would be fine. Anything less won't really stimulate me i would love Gagne... Kaberle I could deal with, maybe on this team he can get his defensive game together. He can't be much worse than Raffi was this past season, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
