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#901 Drake_Marcus

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 05:38 PM

Konopka still available. Big Mac still available.

Just an update.


If the Wings weren't so jam packed with forwards I'd be calling for a Konopka signing as well. Unfortunately the Wings have too many forwards to justify adding another bottom six guy, no matter how bad ass he is. :(

Thank God we got our third/fourth stringer RFA locked up until 2013.

There are bigger fish to fry in the goaltending department.


Errrr.... I assume you didn't watch many Grand Rapids games last year. Pierce outplayed our 1st round pick in goal last season (scary no matter how you look at it). Re-signing him was important for the team in GR. I'm sure Holland is more than competent enough to simultaneously negotiate with multiple players.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:55 AM

Errrr.... I assume you didn't watch many Grand Rapids games last year. Pierce outplayed our 1st round pick in goal last season (scary no matter how you look at it). Re-signing him was important for the team in GR. I'm sure Holland is more than competent enough to simultaneously negotiate with multiple players.


Is this why we've signed two mid-rate UFAs and an RFA third/fourth string goaltender in the first four days of free agency?

You're right, though, it is important to get depth within the organization. That's why it's good that there are only six or seven contracts left the Wings can actually sign players to - it means you don't have many contracts like Pearce's distracting from the pursuit of excellence for the big club. If he spent more than 10 minutes on negotiating this contract in the last four days, I'd be disappointed.

But when the big club has some glaring holes at backup GA and a spot for a top-six forward (when Hudler is pushed off a cliff), it's probably a good idea to focus 100 per cent on that first.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 10:40 AM

Is this why we've signed two mid-rate UFAs and an RFA third/fourth string goaltender in the first four days of free agency?

You're right, though, it is important to get depth within the organization. That's why it's good that there are only six or seven contracts left the Wings can actually sign players to - it means you don't have many contracts like Pearce's distracting from the pursuit of excellence for the big club. If he spent more than 10 minutes on negotiating this contract in the last four days, I'd be disappointed.

But when the big club has some glaring holes at backup GA and a spot for a top-six forward (when Hudler is pushed off a cliff), it's probably a good idea to focus 100 per cent on that first.


I love when people speculate on how good/poor someone is doing at their job when they have no idea what it takes to actually do said job, as well as not having the understanding of what goes on behind closed doors. There are deadlines and CBA restrictions that make signing players by certain dates necessary to the job. Do you not think that Holland has calls into various teams regarding trade options, as well as calls into UFA's with possible offers? Frankly, it would be assanine to think otherwise as he's been doing this job for over 10 years, with success, praise, and very little (earned) ridicule.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 11:59 AM

andystrickland Andy Strickland Blues sign Scott Nichol to 1 yr contract worth $600,000 plus potential bonus money

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Aportzline RT @SunDoniB: Senators have added a leader, tough guy and faceoff man by signing Zenon Konopka to a 1-way, 1-yr deal for $700,000 #nhl #sens

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:32 PM

I love when people speculate on how good/poor someone is doing at their job when they have no idea what it takes to actually do said job, as well as not having the understanding of what goes on behind closed doors. There are deadlines and CBA restrictions that make signing players by certain dates necessary to the job. Do you not think that Holland has calls into various teams regarding trade options, as well as calls into UFA's with possible offers? Frankly, it would be assanine to think otherwise as he's been doing this job for over 10 years, with success, praise, and very little (earned) ridicule.



You're happy with second round playoff losses? Based on the personnel decisions so far (re-signing everybody under 38), I can only assume Kenny is.

Konopka just went to Ottawa for $700,000. Some old Wings assistant named Paul MacLean coaches there. Tell me we couldn't have used Konopka in Miller's spot, even giving him Miller money ($837,000/ two years) to take on that role.

Kenny has been a very good general manager, but this off-season and last off-season hasn't yielded anything that would lead me to think he's serious about changing the makeup of a team that has gotten older and softer.

I want this team to win, and failign so, I want them to compete hard. I'm sorry some of you don't feel the same way.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:34 PM

How is signing Konopka instead of Miller going to give this team a better chance of winning?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:43 PM

How does Miller give us a chance to do anything? We have younger, better versions of him throughout the lineup. He doesn't do anything special.

Konopka is one of the best FO percentage guys in the league, can drop the mitts and has two 50-point seasons in his last two years in the AHL. Perfect fourth line centre.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:44 PM

From TSN:

The Winnipeg Jets have avoided arbitration with forward Andrew Ladd, agreeing to a five-year, $22 million contract with their captain before the 5pm et deadline to file.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:46 PM

Catch all threads like this should be created/modified by mods and they should keep a running list that is updated on the first page of the thread, it becomes awfully scattered the way it is now...

On to the Ladd signing, that is a good deal for WPG, he really found his groove there and seems to make a great captain for them...

Edited by stevkrause, 05 July 2011 - 12:47 PM.

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:50 PM

Miller can play on just about any line and not look out of place. He's one of our best PKers and can chip in with points.

Konopka is one of the best faceoff guys in the league, but we have two perfectly fine bottom 6 centers (Helm and Abdelkader) who are good at draws. His AHL point totals are irrelevant. Despite being "the perfect fourth line centre," he ranked 12th on the Islanders in SHTOI/G yet was on ice for the most PPG against. The only thing significant he has over Miller or any of our other bottom 6 players is that he can fight. I like him but he's basically a faceoff/fight specialist and the Wings really don't have much room for "specialists."

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 12:57 PM

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 01:03 PM

It's funny Konopka can't get any kind of deal better than 700k, and all of a sudden it becomes an attack on a serviceable PKer in Miller.

Shouldn't we be talking about how the guy couldn't even get a million on the free agent market?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 01:04 PM

But he punches people in the face!

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 01:08 PM

Salei headed to KHL

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 01:14 PM

From TSN:

The Minnesota Wild have agreed to terms on a three-year deal with centre Darroll Powe.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:06 PM

I was away from the internets the past few days and would someone enlighten me to any story as to why Kenny gave Ericcson that much money!?!?!! Please and thank you because I'm still baffled. :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:53 PM

I was away from the internets the past few days and would someone enlighten me to any story as to why Kenny gave Ericcson that much money!?!?!! Please and thank you because I'm still baffled. Posted Image

The rest of us have had access to the internet and are still baffled as to how he got that kind of money...haha

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:57 PM

The rest of us have had access to the internet and are still baffled as to how he got that kind of money...haha


Phew good thing I'm not the only one! Especially since a mediocre team would have probably signed him for that much... talk about overpaying!

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:01 PM

Salei headed to KHL


I hope his family goes with him.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 03:12 PM

Darren Dreger I'm hearing Keith Yandle has agreed to an extension. 5 years, $26.5 mil.

Darren Dreger Tomas Kaberle agrees to 3 yr, $12.75 deal with Carolina!! Done.





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