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#161 pucktividi

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 10:07 PM

Call me crazy,but I'll throw Flip+Tatar and a 2012 1st for lazy and inconsistent Alex Semin :ph34r:

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 10:07 PM

Not a ton of impact players in this drying market... I'm not terribly concerned that it's drying up. Vancouver signed our most likely UFA d-man target. Carolina bummed me out too. I guess Wiz is our last UFA hope. Ehrhoff would be a mistake at the money he wants and White's suddenly a journeyman (which may speak to his true value). At this point it's Wiz or a trade as far as I'm concerned. I don't think it'd be a tragedy to give Smith and Kindl a shot at real mins instead of making a panic signing.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 10:13 PM

Not a ton of impact players in this drying market... I'm not terribly concerned that it's drying up. Vancouver signed our most likely UFA d-man target. Carolina bummed me out too. I guess Wiz is our last UFA hope. Ehrhoff would be a mistake at the money he wants and White's suddenly a journeyman (which may speak to his true value). At this point it's Wiz or a trade as far as I'm concerned. I don't think it'd be a tragedy to give Smith and Kindl a shot at real mins instead of making a panic signing.


I wouldn't necessarily call White a journeyman. I think he can be a strong player on a strong team.

Here is how I honestly see things shaking out:

Wizniewski - Kronwall
Lidstrom - Smith
Montador - Stuart
Kindl

Switch Kindl in for Montador and bring up Janik as our 7th as another option.


Wizniewski signs for 4 years at 4.75 million per. Montador signs for 1 year 1 2.25 million.

I would really like to see Smith make the team and learn from Lidstrom. I think it could really benefit him.

And I just have a feeling that Ericsson's negotiation will fall through, I don't know why, just a feeling.

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 10:15 PM

Call me crazy,but I'll throw Flip+Tatar and a 2012 1st for lazy and inconsistent Alex Semin :ph34r:


.... and he's got one year left on his contract.

Even with as negative and generally sour as you normally are, in this case, you could not be more correct with your points.


I'm generally accused of being an overly-positive homer during the regular season. :ph34r:

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:31 PM

Ehrhoff's rights traded to NYI for 4th round pick.

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:44 PM

If Ken Holland is smart--and he is, given that he's the best GM in the business--he'll let someone else do it. Making offer sheets to RFAs tends to anger other GMs. In the last five years, only Kevin Lowe and Doug Wilson have done it. Kevin Lowe isn't employed anymore, and Doug Wilson has proven himself a general s***head. After his offer sheet to Hjalmarsson last year and his mistreatment and manipulation of Setoguchi this offseason, I doubt he'll be seeing much trust from GMs or from players. Such things matter.

Yeah, good call on Wilson. But I agree, I'm sure that someone other than Kenny will be throwing huge offer sheets at Doughty and Stamkos!
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 02:52 AM

Call me crazy,but I'll throw Flip+Tatar and a 2012 1st for lazy and inconsistent Alex Semin :ph34r:


You're Crazy.

Ehrhoff's rights traded to NYI for 4th round pick.



I wonder what drugs Snow is on to think that he is going to be able to sign Ehrhoff. That 4th was a huge waste.
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 03:10 AM

I wonder what drugs Snow is on to think that he is going to be able to sign Ehrhoff. That 4th was a huge waste.


Maybe Ehrhoff will ask his old teammate Evgeni Nabokov about how great it is to be part of the Islanders organization.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 05:05 AM

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:02 AM

I wonder what drugs Snow is on to think that he is going to be able to sign Ehrhoff. That 4th was a huge waste.

No kidding, that's what I was thinking... what a waste of a pic, I think there is a less than 5% chance they sign him, unless they're going to throw a Brian Campbell contract at him, that he's not worth...

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:44 AM

I wouldn't necessarily call White a journeyman. I think he can be a strong player on a strong team.

He's been a journeyman due to his rather odd contracts these past few years.

That said he'd make a solid top 4 Dman on this Red Wings team...If we can't get Wiz - I hope Holland makes a serious offer to White...Even better if we could land both, and tell Ericsson to hit the road.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:52 AM

He's been a journeyman due to his rather odd contracts these past few years.

That said he'd make a solid top 4 Dman on this Red Wings team...If we can't get Wiz - I hope Holland makes a serious offer to White...Even better if we could land both, and tell Ericsson to hit the road.


Telling Ericsson to hit the road would make me happy. :thumbup:
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:56 AM

Telling Ericsson to hit the road would make me happy. :thumbup:

It won't happen <_< ...Holland/Babcock seem to like Ericsson too much.

That said there's still alot of hope for Kenny to sign Wiz...If not Wiz I'd be happy with White.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:56 AM

I have read numerous reports on Twitter this morning that the Preds f***ed up the Qualifying Offers for Kostitsyn, O'Reilly & Spaling so all 3 could become UFAs.

I might not mind seeing Kostitsyn here, he seemed to be a bit better after getting out of Montreal.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:04 AM

It won't happen Posted Image ...Holland/Babcock seem to like Ericsson too much.

That said there's still alot of hope for Kenny to sign Wiz...If not Wiz I'd be happy with White.


Yeah I know Kenny has a hard on for Ericsson. I just like to think of a Wings roster with Ericsson not on it. Much like I do with Hudler. I can stomach having Ericsson on the team but not Hudler.:ph34r: I can see teams offering Wiz a ton of money and term. If he wants to be a Red Wing, he will have to take less than what the stupid desperate teams are offering. White would be a good pick-up as well. :thumbup:

Edited by Hatethedrake!, 29 June 2011 - 09:04 AM.

Jordan Tootoo will wreck shop.

We need someone like Parise that can penetrate the box.-blueadams

#176 F.Michael

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:19 AM

Yeah I know Kenny has a hard on for Ericsson. I just like to think of a Wings roster with Ericsson not on it. Much like I do with Hudler. I can stomach having Ericsson on the team but not Hudler.:ph34r: I can see teams offering Wiz a ton of money and term. If he wants to be a Red Wing, he will have to take less than what the stupid desperate teams are offering. White would be a good pick-up as well. :thumbup:

Agreed :thumbup:

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:34 AM

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Hearing Carolina has agreed to terms with Chad Larose on a two year deal. Larose will earn $1.5M next and $1.9M the season after that for an AAV of $1.7M
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Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:34 AM

Yeah I know Kenny has a hard on for Ericsson. I just like to think of a Wings roster with Ericsson not on it. Much like I do with Hudler. I can stomach having Ericsson on the team but not Hudler.:ph34r: I can see teams offering Wiz a ton of money and term. If he wants to be a Red Wing, he will have to take less than what the stupid desperate teams are offering. White would be a good pick-up as well. :thumbup:

I think White is overrated and even Wiz scares me a little, as he's really only had one good year, but his playing style makes me more comfortable, because I think he'd fit in well here and this would be a good system for him... I wouldn't go after White though...

I know a lot of people wouldn't be, but to be honest, even if we can't hit a home run, I'd be fine with re-signing E, singing Montador and then signing a less flashy, complimentary top 4 type guy to fill out the D like Anton Babchuk...

Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart, Babchuk, Montador, Ericsson and Kindl... looks good enough to me to compete at a high level...

Then next year when the unspeakable happens, you go out and make a MAJOR splash and sign someone like Brent Burns or Ryan Sutter

Edited by stevkrause, 29 June 2011 - 09:35 AM.

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:43 AM

I think White is overrated and even Wiz scares me a little, as he's really only had one good year, but his playing style makes me more comfortable, because I think he'd fit in well here and this would be a good system for him... I wouldn't go after White though...

I know a lot of people wouldn't be, but to be honest, even if we can't hit a home run, I'd be fine with re-signing E, singing Montador and then signing a less flashy, complimentary top 4 type guy to fill out the D like Anton Babchuk...

Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart, Babchuk, Montador, Ericsson and Kindl... looks good enough to me to compete at a high level...

Then next year when the unspeakable happens, you go out and make a MAJOR splash and sign someone like Brent Burns or Ryan Sutter


Honestly, I think White would flourish in our system. A little stability might go a long way for him as well. I don't want to go chasing after the guy, but at the right price and term... I'd be okay with him.

EDIT: WHITE WAS AWARDED THAT $3M FROM AN ARBITRATOR, NO?

To your bolded Krause: I like. Very much. I certainly don't want the Wings leaving money out on the table this year, but I'd rather see that than chasing after big money question marks. (Kaberle/Ehrhoff)

EDIT2: Clarity.

Edited by e_prime, 29 June 2011 - 09:50 AM.

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Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:43 AM

I think White is overrated and even Wiz scares me a little, as he's really only had one good year, but his playing style makes me more comfortable, because I think he'd fit in well here and this would be a good system for him... I wouldn't go after White though...

I know a lot of people wouldn't be, but to be honest, even if we can't hit a home run, I'd be fine with re-signing E, singing Montador and then signing a less flashy, complimentary top 4 type guy to fill out the D like Anton Babchuk...

Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart, Babchuk, Montador, Ericsson and Kindl... looks good enough to me to compete at a high level...

Then next year when the unspeakable happens, you go out and make a MAJOR splash and sign someone like Brent Burns or Ryan Sutter


That is assuming both Burns or Suter are available. Seeing the high price the Wilson gave up to acquire Burns, I can't see the Sharks letting him walk away as a UFA. I think the Preds lock up Suter after they do likewise with Weber. Ideally it would be nice to have a shot at getting these guys but a year is a long time. They may not even be available. I'm not a fan of Babchuk. I like Montador. Ericsson is like barley. You can eat it but would rather have frosted flakes. I need to see Kindl play more to form an accurate assessment of him.

Edited by Hatethedrake!, 29 June 2011 - 09:43 AM.

Jordan Tootoo will wreck shop.

We need someone like Parise that can penetrate the box.-blueadams





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