Bryguy 103 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 You know I suspect(ed) Holland and his team have targeted a lesser known d-man that [isn't] a stud, but will miraculously end up being a stud. His name _unknown_ I don't see Holland getting in a bidding war for a mid-level dman (Wiz, Pitkanen). Babchuk maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) In another thread I suggested trading for Gonchar and Kuba since both are on the block. I would rather get a couple of band aids than overpay long term for someone on the FA market. http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/69921-trade-speculation-talk/page__st__120 Edited June 27, 2011 by xtrememachine1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted June 27, 2011 we coulda paid him 6.... we coulda paid him 16.... He's not worth more than 4. He had a good playoff run, but wasn't never that good of a defenseman. He's being overpaid. I hope this doesn't set the tone of the FA market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) Despite some word that Bieksa took a 'home town discount' you've got to wonder if this is the true benchmark for UFA defensement in terms of salary. Personally, I don't think Markov set the tone with his 3 year $15.25 deal. If word that the Wings are interested in Ehroff and/or Wisniewski is true the Wings could conceivably attain both (assuming those players want to come here) while still have money for a back up goaltender and a forward. Kopecky and Harding are just random names for rough dollar amounts that could still be distributed differently. Plus, adding in Ericsson at $2.4M/yr is sure to get a rise out of a lot of LGW members. CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR FORWARDS Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m) Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Tomas Kopecky ($2.000m) Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.950m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / James Wisniewski ($4.250m) Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($2.400m) Christian Ehrhoff ($4.500m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Josh Harding ($1.400m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,592,044; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $707,956 Edited June 27, 2011 by mmamolo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) Despite some word that Bieksa took a 'home town discount' you've got to wonder if this is the true benchmark for UFA defensement in terms of salary. Personally, I don't think Markov set the tone with his 3 year $15.25 deal. If word that the Wings are interested in Ehroff and/or Wisniewski is true the Wings could conceivably attain both (assuming those players want to come here) while still have money for a back up goaltender and a forward. Kopecky and Harding are just random names for rough dollar amounts that could still be distributed differently. Plus, adding in Ericsson at $2.4M/yr is sure to get a rise out of a lot of LGW members. Ehrhoff is supposedly going to get a Bieska style deal in Vancouver. Edited June 27, 2011 by Majsheppard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/van110627.html Yup looks like he's signed. Another one bites the dust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 Ehrhoff is supposedly going to get a Bieska style deal in Vancouver. That's definitely possible. I just dropped names in for salary levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 i didn't want bieksa, wisniewski is who i want 3 LeftWinger, OakWing and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 27, 2011 $4.6m with an NTC. I think that with Setoguchi in mind, we'll be seeing a lot NTCs this summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted June 27, 2011 I'm not surprised with this contract for Bieksa. Personally, I think he is overrated. I mean he is a good dman but he is not an elite level dman. Of course neither are Wisniewski and Ehrhoff or Pitkanen for that matter. I expected Bieksa to take a hometown discount to stay in Vancouver. I expect both Kronwall and Stuart will do the same this time next year. With this signing, I believe it paves the way for Ehrhoff to remain a Canuck as well. With the Cap floor now being at 48 mil, I expect Wiz to get come crazy offers. If he becomes a Red Wing it will have to be at a discount. I hope Kenny signs him but it is certainly not the end of the world if a team like say the Leafs give him a 7 year deal for 42 mil with a no trade clause. I can totally see Burke doing that. Look what he gave Komisarek who is nothing more than a 3rd pair dman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 Too much money for this spotpicker. I'm glad he didn't wind up in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 Andy Greene. Just saying. He's my darkhorse. Local kid, probably fits a lot better in our system. Wish he was right-handed though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 This is fine, maybe we'll get Wiz for about the same.... I have no issues with Wiz for 5 yrs $4.7ish million... Then give me Montador for $2M and Jovo for $3M... Kronwall - Stuart Lidstrom - Wiz Jovo - Montador Kindl I would love to see that D starting the season.... If Ericsson would take $1.7M then he can replace either Jovo or Montador... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted June 27, 2011 This is fine, maybe we'll get Wiz for about the same.... I have no issues with Wiz for 5 yrs $4.7ish million... Then give me Montador for $2M and Jovo for $3M... Kronwall - Stuart Lidstrom - Wiz Jovo - Montador Kindl I would love to see that D starting the season.... If Ericsson would take $1.7M then he can replace either Jovo or Montador... I like that defense very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) I like that defense very much. I think Jovo is done, other than that, I like it too, I really, really like Montador and think he would be an amazing fit here, also, it's looking incredibly likely that E is getting re-signed, so give me that plus Wiz and I love it: Lidstrom-Wisniewski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Montador Kindl Yes. please. Edited June 27, 2011 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 This is fine, maybe we'll get Wiz for about the same.... I have no issues with Wiz for 5 yrs $4.7ish million... Then give me Montador for $2M and Jovo for $3M... Kronwall - Stuart Lidstrom - Wiz Jovo - Montador Kindl I would love to see that D starting the season.... If Ericsson would take $1.7M then he can replace either Jovo or Montador... Ericsson WILL re-sign... which is okay, but he'll probably sign around 2.3 million, unfortunately. I would rather he take Jovo's spot in your scenario as that way we would keep Montador with is right handed shot and more than likely less expensive price tag. Oh and he's younger, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 Ericsson WILL re-sign... which is okay, but he'll probably sign around 2.3 million, unfortunately. I would rather he take Jovo's spot in your scenario as that way we would keep Montador with is right handed shot and more than likely less expensive price tag. Oh and he's younger, too. We were posting at the same time... that's exactly what I said more or less... that would be a fantastic D in my mind, add Monty and Wiz, re-sign E and roll with it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 Ericsson WILL re-sign... which is okay, but he'll probably sign around 2.3 million, unfortunately. I would rather he take Jovo's spot in your scenario as that way we would keep Montador with is right handed shot and more than likely less expensive price tag. Oh and he's younger, too. yes, I would be ok with that too, as long as Holland doesn't overpay Ericsson. I like $1.7Mish but if it is $2.3M and we still get Wiz and Montador,I can definitely live with that. It still gives Holland $6M+ to get a back-up goaler and address the forwards... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 I hate Ericsson, but damn. If we had Wiz, Montador and E all on the blueline along with Stewie and Kronwall that is a hard hitting, tough defence. Then with Nick in there, come on July 1st Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 Color me shocked. Good, I didn't want him here, Wiz is the better player. It's amazing how much having a good goalie will make you look better than what you really are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 oh well didnt want him anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Color me shocked. Good, I didn't want him here, Wiz is the better player. It's amazing how much having a good goalie will make you look better than what you really are. Wouldn't that logic apply even more to Wiz considering Carey Price is much better than Luongo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Wouldn't that logic apply even more to Wiz considering Carey Price is much better than Luongo? Lol ok Mindlfy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
