10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Why does everyone want Wiz? The guy has had one good year, everything else sub par. Ehrhoff is the much more offensively gifted and consistent defenseman. Stick to Wisniewski to take Rafalski's spot. Ehrhoff had a mediocre finals at best. Wouldn't be surprised if he was grossly overpaid (Edmonton). I wouldn't be overly upset if Jovanovski replaced Salei, although i'd like to see us get younger. What are everyone's thoughts on Kent Huskins? Yeah, Ehrhoff had a s***ty finals. Put up 14 goals two years in a row and a catalist to Vancouers PP. Let's not bring up how Wiz has sucked every year before the last, tho. Oh wait, he's gritty tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Is Erhoff a diver like the rest of the Canucks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Never thought ofthat one jovo replacing salei...interesting..prolly wants big dollars tho...his name alone.. That's my big fear.. There is also the possibility that Jovo comes here to play with Bertuzzi, remember the two are close friends. Bert could sell him on coming in and also I could see them offering Jovo a bert-like contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted June 28, 2011 If Ehrhoff turned down "Bieska" money, then he wants way more than I would pay him. Give me my original lineup: Kronwall Stuart Lidstrom Wisniewski ($5M 4-5yrs)) Jovanovski($3M 1 yr) Montador ($2M 2yrs) Kindl (like I said in another thread if Holland is going to re-sign Ericsson, then fine, put him in place of Jovo or Montador. But that lineup is my preference. That leaves Holland $6M dollars to shore up the offense.) I would say, no thanks to Ehroff, unless we cannot get Wisniewski... Why is Jovo worth $3mil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Why does everyone want Wiz? The guy has had one good year, everything else sub par. Ehrhoff is the much more offensively gifted and consistent defenseman. Yeah, Ehrhoff had a s***ty finals. Put up 14 goals two years in a row and a catalist to Vancouers PP. Let's not bring up how Wiz has sucked every year before the last, tho. Oh wait, he's gritty tho. Ehrhoff is a carbon copy of what we already have in most of our D...puck moving, offensive defensemen. Wisniewski not only brings some offense to the team as well, but he also fills two voids we don't have, a right handed shot on D and yes, toughness. I am not saying one is that much better than the other, but Wisniewski, even if he doesn't net 51 points again, fills more of our voids. This is Kronwall's year to get 60+ points, he is going to have to show he can "replace" Lidstrom one of these years, so with Rafalski gone, this year should be his year. If not, then Suter is on the horizon. Nobody is afraid of Lidstrom/Kronwall/Ehrhoff/Kindl/Ericsson/Stuart. But make it Lidstrom/Kronwall/Wiz/Montador/Jovo/Stuart/Kindl, folks will have their heads up for sure. AND we will still get out points from LIds/Kron/Wiz.... If Holland lands both? Super! but first priority should be Wiz... Why is Jovo worth $3mil? Why not? He made over $6M last year, his game hasn't fallen apart that much. If he came here for less, great! Considering that his career is waning and he hasn't won a Cup yet, he is probably looking to go somewhere that has a legit shot at winning the Cup and there are only a few places that are legit contenders. Detroit being one of them, but he will probably get even higher offers from other teams, so I put him at $3M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Ehrhoff is a carbon copy of what we already have in most of our D...puck moving, offensive defensemen. Wisniewski not only brings some offense to the team as well, but he also fills two voids we don't have, a right handed shot on D and yes, toughness. I am not saying one is that much better than the other, but Wisniewski, even if he doesn't net 51 points again, fills more of our voids. This is Kronwall's year to get 60+ points, he is going to have to show he can "replace" Lidstrom one of these years, so with Rafalski gone, this year should be his year. If not, then Suter is on the horizon. Nobody is afraid of Lidstrom/Kronwall/Ehrhoff/Kindl/Ericsson/Stuart. But make it Lidstrom/Kronwall/Wiz/Montador/Jovo/Stuart/Kindl, folks will have their heads up for sure. AND we will still get out points from LIds/Kron/Wiz.... If Holland lands both? Super! but first priority should be Wiz... Why? When's the last time Kronwall hit someone in the regular season? Same goes for Stuart. Who are Lidstrom and Kindl going to hit? Jovo is too slow to hit anyone. Wiz is basically the only guy who consistently throws his weight around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Why does everyone want Wiz? The guy has had one good year, everything else sub par. Ehrhoff is the much more offensively gifted and consistent defenseman. Yeah, Ehrhoff had a s***ty finals. Put up 14 goals two years in a row and a catalist to Vancouers PP. Let's not bring up how Wiz has sucked every year before the last, tho. Oh wait, he's gritty tho. Hitting and fighting is yucky and rude, I know. How has Wisniewski "sucked"? 51 points in 75 games this past season. He broke into the league with the Blackhawks, so of course his numbers early in his career won't be stellar. Ehrhoff already rejected a Bieksa-like contract. How much does he think he's worth? Bieksa is making a shade under 5 mil a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Why? When's the last time Kronwall hit someone in the regular season? Same goes for Stuart. Who are Lidstrom and Kindl going to hit? Jovo is too slow to hit anyone. Wiz is basically the only guy who consistently throws his weight around. Fetisov was slow too, he seemed to hit folks just fine. Kronner and Stuart hit plenty in the regular season, not a ton, not as much as they should, but more than Ericsson and Ehrhoff do. Wiz will be the main hitter and Montador doens't pass on a check either. The only one who won't be doing any hitting is Lidstrom... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Stick to Wisniewski to take Rafalski's spot. Ehrhoff had a mediocre finals at best. Wouldn't be surprised if he was grossly overpaid (Edmonton). I wouldn't be overly upset if Jovanovski replaced Salei, although i'd like to see us get younger. What are everyone's thoughts on Kent Huskins? I might be wrong but Ehroff was injured (knee and shoulder) during the playoffs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 I might be wrong but Ehroff was injured (knee and shoulder) during the playoffs... Might have been. I wouldn't be surprised if a team that is desperate to hit the cap floor threw him a massive contract. (Edmonton, Florida) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 If Ehrhoff turned down "Bieska" money, then he wants way more than I would pay him. Give me my original lineup: Kronwall Stuart Lidstrom Wisniewski ($5M 4-5yrs)) Jovanovski($3M 1 yr) Montador ($2M 2yrs) Kindl (like I said in another thread if Holland is going to re-sign Ericsson, then fine, put him in place of Jovo or Montador. But that lineup is my preference. That leaves Holland $6M dollars to shore up the offense.) I would say, no thanks to Ehroff, unless we cannot get Wisniewski... That DEF will bring Stanley back to Detroit - even with Hudler playing top six forward... Might have been. I wouldn't be surprised if a team that is desperate to hit the cap floor threw him a massive contract. (Edmonton, Florida) I'm pretty much sure that he was injured vs. Sharks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 That DEF will bring Stanley back to Detroit - even with Hudler playing top six forward... Well, it definitely makes them better defensively than last year. I hope Hudler gets traded before the season, but it's looking more like we are stuck with him and his gross overpayment. But maybe he'll resurge to a 50-60 point player and up his trade value for the deadline. If he doesn't then at least he is a UFA after the season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Well, it definitely makes them better defensively than last year. I hope Hudler gets traded before the season, but it's looking more like we are stuck with him and his gross overpayment. But maybe he'll resurge to a 50-60 point player and up his trade value for the deadline. If he doesn't then at least he is a UFA after the season... I wish Hud's all luck, 100 pts season, 50 goals season - but it wan't/can't happen in Detroit (see Leino situation). It's time to move on with Hudler. Jovo and Montador are capable of cleaning zone in front of Howard - it's huge upgrade over Ericsson/Salei... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 I'd rather have Wiz, mostly due to the fact that he's a righty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Wings need someone who is a close fit to Raffie.... Can play the PP, right handed shot, produce points (goals and assists), and is a mobile-out of the zone rushing D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Wings need someone who is a close fit to Raffie.... Can play the PP, right handed shot, produce points (goals and assists), and is a mobile-out of the zone rushing D WIZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Wings need someone who is a close fit to Raffie.... Can play the PP, right handed shot, produce points (goals and assists), and is a mobile-out of the zone rushing D This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 2nd necessity is then focusing on a D who can hit, block shots, and play the PK (more of a stay at home Dman)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 I could live with Ehrhoff in a 5-5.7 range. He fills a very similar role and player type to Rafalski, but is younger, less injury prone, and would be slightly cheaper even at the high end of that price. He's a solid young player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Why does everyone want Wiz? The guy has had one good year, everything else sub par. Ehrhoff is the much more offensively gifted and consistent defenseman. Yeah, Ehrhoff had a s***ty finals. Put up 14 goals two years in a row and a catalist to Vancouers PP. Let's not bring up how Wiz has sucked every year before the last, tho. Oh wait, he's gritty tho. Wiz looks like a great fit on paper. Honestly, there is no one that makes me giddy. I just think we CAN and will sign Wiz. So I am okay with that. I really wouldn't mind Ehrhoff either. In fact at this point, I will take anyone. Seriously, there are so few left that I just want some bodies. Just make sure we can trade them at the deadline or later if they are worthless. The cap increase has caused the league to be seriously screwed up this offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Holland should ask Babs/Lids who would be the best fit for this team to be honest... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Holland should ask Babs/Lids who would be the best fit for this team to be honest... He probably does. Holland/Babs/Lids seems like a trio of men that have a great amount of respect for each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 2nd necessity is then focusing on a D who can hit, block shots, and play the PK (more of a stay at home Dman)... Brad Lukowich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Brad Lukowich Already re-signed with his team IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 28, 2011 Already re-signed with his team IIRC. Well Holland just missed again... Is Bogosian still available or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
