pucktividi 472 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 relax people,we have a man to take Rafi's spot and his name is Ericsson from HFBoards: "From July 1st other clubs are allowed to give offers. I'm not worried, things will be solved.""I would've hoped to take his spot(Rafalski's), but they've told me they're looking for a new defenceman there." "I'm happy in Detroit and wouldn't mind staying. In the contract negotiations we've had, we've been talking about terms of two or four years. We'll see how it goes" http://www.nt.se/nyheter/artikel.aspx?articleid=6959314 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) How do you know it doesn't? Why throw a 4th round pick away for nothing and lose that chance of a possible good player? Red Wings have good success in the later rounds. Why give away the future? Good asset management by Kenny Holland. You gotta give him props for not making a desperate and poor trades. Trading a 4th round for the rights to a player who's young and fits into your team going forward is desperate and poor? Stop sipping the kool-aid. These are low risk high reward deals, it's not like there trading 1sts for rights. And just for the record, I didn't want anything to do with Ehrhoff and am glad he won't be coming to Detroit Edited June 30, 2011 by Detroit # 1 Fan 2 uk_redwing and pucktividi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) via @TSNBobMcKenzie Ehrhoff deal breakdown: 10 Years // $40 Million: Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That's $18M in 1st 2 yrs, or $15M before puck drops on 12-13 season. Year 3: $4M; Year 4: $4M, Year 5: $4M; Year 6: $4M; Year 7: $3M; Year 8; $1M; Year 9: $1M, Year 10: $1M. Modified NTC. Cap hit=$4M/yr. Do you think this looks like a contract that's going to get a good hard look from the league? Edited June 30, 2011 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 via @TSNBobMcKenzie Ehrhoff deal breakdown: 10 Years // $40 Million: Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That's $18M in 1st 2 yrs, or $15M before puck drops on 12-13 season. Year 3: $4M; Year 4: $4M, Year 5: $4M; Year 6: $4M; Year 7: $3M; Year 8; $1M; Year 9: $1M, Year 10: $1M. Modified NTC. Cap hit=$4M/yr. This looks like a contract that's going to get a good hard look from the league. Dude that's insane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 Ehrhoff agrees to terms with Buffalo per TSN. Is Wiz the only one left? If he signs with bj's then I guess its ericsson and kaberle or jovo.... Pitkanen. As for Ehrhoff's deal, my thought is this: I wouldn't have liked Holland signing another 10-year deal in general, but Ehrhoff's cap hit is well below his market value if it's the reported $40m over 10 years. That would have been an excellent deal for the Wings' current situation; Ehrhoff plays his prime out under value, and then retires before the end of his deal. It would also have left enough cap space to still go after other higher-end free agents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 That's $10M in year 1 ... he is in Luongo, Lecavlier territory. First, Buffalo is stupid. Second, Erhoff is stupid. So they deserve each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 Pitkanen. He already re-upped with the 'Canes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted June 30, 2011 Trading a 4th round for the rights to a player who's young and fits into your team going forward is desperate and poor? Stop sipping the kool-aid. These are low risk high reward deals, it's not like there trading 1sts for rights. And just for the record, I didn't want anything to do with Ehrhoff and am glad he won't be coming to Detroit Wait, so you are saying Holland should have given up a 4th round pick for a guy you didn't want to play for Detroit anyhow? That makes a lot of sense! Who's sipping the 'ol kool-aid? Kenny just saved a 4th round draft pick, how can you not be happy with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 via @TSNBobMcKenzie Ehrhoff deal breakdown: 10 Years // $40 Million: Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That's $18M in 1st 2 yrs, or $15M before puck drops on 12-13 season. Year 3: $4M; Year 4: $4M, Year 5: $4M; Year 6: $4M; Year 7: $3M; Year 8; $1M; Year 9: $1M, Year 10: $1M. Modified NTC. Cap hit=$4M/yr. Do you think this looks like a contract that's going to get a good hard look from the league? I wouldn't mind seeing it get thrown out, and Holland pulling Ehrhoff out of Buffalo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 Wait, so you are saying Holland should have given up a 4th round pick for a guy you didn't want to play for Detroit anyhow? That makes a lot of sense! Who's sipping the 'ol kool-aid? Kenny just saved a 4th round draft pick, how can you not be happy with that? I was talking about Buffalo.. obviously because that was the topic at hand. But nice try I'm glad Holland saves draft picks, and like I said, I didnt want Ehrhoff. However, trading a 4th round pick for a players rights is not mortgaging the future, or desperate or poor at all. Especially when the player you acquire is young and actually signs with your team. (Then there;s Garth Snow who trades picks for players he'd have to be crazy to think would sign with his team, lets just be glad he isn't our GM ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 Trading a 4th round for the rights to a player who's young and fits into your team going forward is desperate and poor? Stop sipping the kool-aid. These are low risk high reward deals, it's not like there trading 1sts for rights. Good point,but the majority of us remember how we got screwed with a pick in Robert Lang trade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted June 30, 2011 I was talking about Buffalo.. obviously because that was the topic at hand. But nice try I'm glad Holland saves draft picks, and like I said, I didnt want Ehrhoff. However, trading a 4th round pick for a players rights is not mortgaging the future, or desperate or poor at all. Especially when the player you acquire is young and actually signs with your team. (Then there;s Garth Snow who trades picks for players he'd have to be crazy to think would sign with his team, lets just be glad he isn't our GM ) You must have accidentally quoted my post because I was in a conversation with another member about DRWs 4th round pick. The convo were were having was about 'Detroit's needs', who already have bunch of LTCs. It's fine for Buff because they don't have the contracts like Zetterberg/Franzen etc... I'd be fine if Holland gave up a 4th round pick for Suter or Weber next year, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 You must have accidentally quoted my post because I was in a conversation with another member about DRWs 4th round pick. The convo were were having was about 'Detroit's needs', who already have bunch of LTCs. It's fine for Buff because they don't have the contracts like Zetterberg/Franzen etc... I'd be fine if Holland gave up a 4th round pick for Suter or Weber next year, though. I doubt there's a person on this forum who'd disagree with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted June 30, 2011 Well, you can't give up hope on a big name trade just yet. A story broke (heard by several dozen Flames' fans) on a local Calgary news radio station that Bouwmeester was asked to waive his NTC. I wonder if Holland has something up his sleeve?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted June 30, 2011 If he wants to be paid $10M next year Buffalo can keep him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllinoisRedWingsFan 49 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) via @TSNBobMcKenzie Ehrhoff deal breakdown: 10 Years // $40 Million: Year 1: $8M signing bonus, $2M salary; Year 2: $5M SB, $3M sal. That's $18M in 1st 2 yrs, or $15M before puck drops on 12-13 season. Year 3: $4M; Year 4: $4M, Year 5: $4M; Year 6: $4M; Year 7: $3M; Year 8; $1M; Year 9: $1M, Year 10: $1M. Modified NTC. Cap hit=$4M/yr. Do you think this looks like a contract that's going to get a good hard look from the league? According to Bob McKenzie on Twitter (Just added him as a follower) it is a valid deal. Edited July 1, 2011 by IllinoisRedWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 According to Bob McKenzie on Twitter (Just added him as a follower) it is a valid deal. I don't think that's the question that was being asked. However, McKenzie is incorrect as there is a $13m signing bonus spread over two seasons, and the maximum signing bonus is 10% of the player's salary in the specific year it is paid. Meaning that the most it could possibly be is $4m, and the most it could be based on those $2m and $3m figures for the first two seasons would make it a total of $500k signing bonus. Not $13m. 2 e_prime and Konnan511 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 I wonder how many of these "mega bucks up front that trail off at the end" contracts we'll see tomorrow. I'm assuming that's what Richards will sign with whomever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 You must have accidentally quoted my post because I was in a conversation with another member about DRWs 4th round pick. The convo were were having was about 'Detroit's needs', who already have bunch of LTCs. It's fine for Buff because they don't have the contracts like Zetterberg/Franzen etc... I'd be fine if Holland gave up a 4th round pick for Suter or Weber next year, though. Holland is more likely to pick up Weber or Suter at the end of February 2012 than at the end of June 2012. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted July 1, 2011 Why the f*** can't the NHL do anything officially? I went to NHL.com and all they got on this is a news article stating the it's a "reported" 10 year contract. Why aren't they just straight up listing approved trades and signings? They all have to fit into the CBA... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 Why the f*** can't the NHL do anything officially? I went to NHL.com and all they got on this is a news article stating the it's a "reported" 10 year contract. Why aren't they just straight up listing approved trades and signings? They all have to fit into the CBA... Perhaps the contract has yet to be filed and/or approved? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted July 1, 2011 Brad Winchester, 10 years, $12.5 million. Make it happen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
