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[Probie]

Big E isn't even a righty who can come even remotely close to filling Raffys spot. I can justify Holland overpaying to fill this void but this is retarded. I would pay Erhoff .75 million more and he is quit a bit better, thats a no brained move. BS signing. Do you guys remember how many picks over the last decade we have traded away, weve traded first, ad seconds, and we cant even cough up a 7th rounder for Wis's rights or a 4th for Erhoff? Do you guys know the odds of drafting a guy in the 7th round that would be as good a player as Wiz or a forth as good as Erhoff? The chances are way slimmer then the odds of that player signing after trading for the rights. Rediculous. I bet Holland took a gamble thinking nobody would be dealt for rights, and they would be available July 1st and he could have his pickings, well he f***ed up. He obviously dropped the ball on not being in on Erhoff rights as well from NY. In a panic he signs Erricson to this stupid contract.

[GMRwings1983]

FIRE HOLLAND. ALL OF HIS PAST SUCCESS MEANS NOTHING IN THE FACE OF THIS ONE SIGNING! WE ARE RATIONAL PEOPLE---HEAR US ROAR! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Now you're just trolling this thread.

For the first time EVER, every poster on LGW agrees on something unanimously, and you have to f*** it up.

Do you actually think this was a good signing?

[Datsyerberger]

I guess all one can hope for at this point is for Holland/Ericsson to prove us wrong.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

Still waiting for those numbers to be confirmed as something different. Absolutely can't be right.

[Crymson]

franzen's contract is going to look terrible in a couple years. he's injury prone and signed till hes like 40.... i'm not a fan of that contract.... burns is a great dman. u can't just point out his faults and then say franzen has none. franzen is very injury prone. so pluses on burns... young, loads of potential on a great team like detroit, young, big, right shot....

ONE YEAR LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT.

And if you think Franzen sucks so badly, why in the hell do you think that Minnesota would want him over Setoguchi?

DURRR.

[F.Michael]

FIRE HOLLAND. ALL OF HIS PAST SUCCESS MEANS NOTHING IN THE FACE OF THIS ONE SIGNING! WE ARE RATIONAL PEOPLE---HEAR US ROAR! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Man - you are on a streak

[WorkingOvertime]

Yeah, I agree that it is REALLY overreacting to want to fire Holland after one bad move. He's been the best GM for a while now--especially since he doesn't do stupid things.

However, this one move was extremely stupid. Call a spade a spade and admit this was a stupid, stupid signing. Constantly praising Holland and belittling those criticizing him doesn't make you more of a fan. People have the right to be upset with something like this. They're upset because they care. Obviously, as a result, they're going to make those over-dramatic statements you incessantly gripe about.

I'm truly worried that this signing could set an extremely bad precedent.

How much are Kronwall and Stuart going to want? Surely, they'll want at minimum $5-5.5M now. It's tough to justify them taking much less whenf****** Ericsson is making $3.25M.

Agree. This doesn't mean Holland still isn't great, but it shows he (like all GM's) isn't always perfect.

[redwingfan19]

ericsson has done nothing but regress since he got into the league. how does he earn a 2M dollar raise?

next up yammy for 5M

[dirtydangles]

I detest Ericsson's play and I detest the fact that he'll be with the team at all. However, I think that calling for Holland's head over it and declaring him a horrible GM over it is stupid beyond belief.

i haven't said holland's a bad GM for the record... im with you, holland is still one of the best. but this contract and the decision to have ericsson back kinda sucks. unless e is taking lessons from lids all offseason i fail to see how he lives up to that deal.

[Crymson]

Now you're just trolling this thread.

For the first time EVER, every poster on LGW agrees on something unanimously, and you have to f*** it up.

Do you actually think this was a good signing?

I'm trolling trolls.

I hate this signing. I dislike even more that people are so dumb as to call for Holland's head over it. How many GMs in league history never made a bad signing?

[Dominator2005]

franzen's contract is going to look terrible in a couple years. he's injury prone and signed till hes like 40.... i'm not a fan of that contract.... burns is a great dman. u can't just point out his faults and then say franzen has none. franzen is very injury prone. so pluses on burns... young, loads of potential on a great team like detroit, young, big, right shot....

This

Franzen or Hossa???

[WingsFANstuckintheSOUTH]

I really gotta think Detroit just gave him that amount for another team. This isn't what Holland does. I pray we see him going to a team that needs to build up the cap.

[Majsheppard]

That must be why we've lacked success so badly during his term as GM. After all, he never managed to draft or to keep Datsyuk, Franzen or Zetterberg at reasonable prices, nor find such gems as Cleary, Samuelsson and Eaves, nor land key players like Rafalski.

Good call.

I agree, there is no reason to suggest he is worthless as a GM.

I will just let everyone rant on this one. WE ARE FRUSTRATED!!!

We are not used to being so ignored, so unimportant, so emasculated by the system. We work the system, and now the system is working us... It seems to be a sentiment that affects me in every aspect of my life but not hockey. I never ever expected to feel like we cannot win as a Red Wings fan... maybe with the refs, but not in running the team.

This offseason is starting to make me feel that way. It isn't even over and I have little faith that our team will be any better than last year, and to make things worse I am losing a few of the people that made me so confident in our dominance over the years.

Honestly, Buffalo has emerged as the type of team that could be the next Red Wings with a great owner. More reason that I think we might be ready for a big stumble when Lidstrom retires. Thank God we are a great drafting team. I hope that we somehow can get a crack at a lottery pick without having to be a lottery team so we can get a new foundation cornerstone.

[redwingfan19]

ONE YEAR LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT.

And if you think Franzen sucks so badly, why in the hell do you think that Minnesota would want him over Setoguchi?

DURRR.

because franzen was a clutch playoff performer 2 years ago bro!

[dirtydangles]

ONE YEAR LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT.

And if you think Franzen sucks so badly, why in the hell do you think that Minnesota would want him over Setoguchi?

DURRR.

we will be locked in battle forever it seems.... seriously though, i respect ur opinion, ur one of the better posters on lgw.

[GMRwings1983]

I'm trolling trolls.

I hate this signing. I dislike even more that people are so dumb as to call for Holland's head over it. How many GMs in league history never made a bad signing?

Yzerman?

Edited by GMRwings1983, 30 June 2011 - 09:40 PM.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

I really gotta think Detroit just gave him that amount for another team. This isn't what Holland does. I pray we see him going to a team that needs to build up the cap.

This has to be the case. This just isn't him, at all.

[Vladifan]

Who the hell is Mark Spizzirri? But he got one thing right. It looks very much like the best D men are not going to be available, so he didn't have a helluva lot of choice.

I also want to think that now that Ericsson is signed for a longer period, he will relax and let himself play the way he knows that he can play. Go, Big E! Go, Kenny!

[Majsheppard]

i haven't said holland's a bad GM for the record... im with you, holland is still one of the best. but this contract and the decision to have ericsson back kinda sucks. unless e is taking lessons from lids all offseason i fail to see how he lives up to that deal.

You are making Burns out to be some sort of a God. He is not even in the top 25 D men IMO and Franzen is far greater!

[F.Michael]

Still waiting for those numbers to be confirmed as something different. Absolutely can't be right.

Same here.