Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Let me add, if the Wings think Hudler was so great and he was so effective, they would not be trying to move him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Try harder. Still the best post in the thread! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) Still the best post in the thread! esteef Icing on the cake would be Huds telling the media Babs is being scratched and Holland is up for trade. Edited July 3, 2011 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) For some reason I think BabCOCK is the type of coach who values effort... As long as he thinks you are conditioning/trying your hardest, he will give you a chance even if you struggle putting up points. Agree,otherwise they've shopped both Filppula and Hudler at the draft. Still pretty surprised no one took Hudler,cause he had similar season like Leino here and we know how it worked for the Flyers. Edited July 3, 2011 by pucktividi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 I am a Wings fan and a Hockey fan, but I am also realistic.... Bringing up Pavel in a Hudler thread is like comparing apples and oranges, yes they are both fruit (Big Fat Greek Wedding line), but that is about it... Pavel is very effective defensively/offensively, and has been consistent... Hudler, well.... We will not go there as what needed to be said has been written already. We need 2 way players who want to be here and play hockey, plain n simple... Guys who will give their all every night... Ones who can play defense, not be knocked off the puck, can take face-offs, work the boards, not turn over the puck a lot, and set up goals accordingly. Hudler is not the worst guy out there, but there are better for the money who will be more productive in certain situations. Ah yes, two-way players like Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, and Franzen. The epitome of offense combined with defense. Usually when a player puts forth effort, there is production... His production only increased when it seemed he was putting forth more effort... So quit complaining about people bringing up Datsyuk's '09 playoff run and calling him a ghost. The stats show that he wasn't putting in the effort. For some reason I think BabCOCK is the type of coach who values effort... As long as he thinks you are conditioning/trying your hardest, he will give you a chance even if you struggle putting up points. Hence why he is one of the best coaches (ie - see the history of Commie and Babs) Hudler had trouble scoring for about 30 games, but he was working as hard as anyone from about game 15 on and was creating scoring chances, playing well in the corners and backchecking hard. Yet he gets bagged on about effort and defense based on his nationality, or his play several years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Agree,otherwise they'll shop both Filppula and Hudler at the draft. Still pretty surprised no one took Hudler,cause he had similar season like Leino here and we know how it worked for the Flyers. No... Leino sucked ass here. Last year Hudler had a couple months of poor play to fit in with a couple months of very good play and a couple years of very good play. Hudler having less value than Leino is absolutely silly; the ONLY thing Leino has that Hudler doesn't is better size. 1 T-Ruff reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 No... Leino sucked ass here. Last year Hudler had a couple months of poor play to fit in with a couple months of very good play and a couple years of very good play. Hudler having less value than Leino is absolutely silly; the ONLY thing Leino has that Hudler doesn't is better size. They do have something in common though, they get lit up by opposing players pretty good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOuajAN7WfM 1 pucktividi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 No... Leino sucked ass here. Last year Hudler had a couple months of poor play to fit in with a couple months of very good play and a couple years of very good play. Hudler having less value than Leino is absolutely silly; the ONLY thing Leino has that Hudler doesn't is better size. Leino had flashes of brilliance just like Hudler,but there was a 'little difference'.He sucked big time,no doubt but Hudler is payed like 4 frigging Ville Leinos here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowings00 545 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 It seems to me the Bottom line is we need a Sniper. Huds was brought back to be this since we lost Hossa. Gotta have a guy that can get us goals when the PP isn't working and Holmstrom cann't tip one in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 No Hudler was not brought back to be the team sniper... he was brought back to add to our depth. If he was brought back to be the team "sniper" I am pretty sure he would have been playing with Pavs. For the most part, successful Wings teams do not usually have 40 goal scorers every single season, but rather a lot of depth guys that help the Wings be amongst the best offensively, which the Wings were again last season. Also, take into account that the last 2 seassons have been a fluke with injuries... I have never seen a team get hit with such odd and fluky injuries like the Wings have the past 2 seasons... The Wings would have been closer to the Canucks in term of total points had we not lost Pavel for the near 2 months that we did... along with all the other injuries. MY point is, the WIngs team we have RIGHT NOW, will be amongst the best all around teams in the league... all we need to do now is pray the hockeygods leave our boys the hell alone for once... after battling a retarded amt of injuries the past 2 seasons, they owe us that, and when healthy, this team can beat any other team in the league, especailly with guys like Hudler and FRanzen contributing effectively and CONSISTANTLY, which I think will happen this season because Nick wants another Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 They do have something in common though, they get lit up by opposing players pretty good 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Good news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Don't worry... 'Bout a thing. 'Cuz every little thing... Is gonna be alright. Singing don't worry... 'Bout a thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Leino had flashes of brilliance just like Hudler,but there was a 'little difference'.He sucked big time,no doubt but Hudler is payed like 4 frigging Ville Leinos here Mmm. Well, good news then because next season Hudler will be paid like about 64% of a frigging Ville Leino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicktube 1 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Look at the bright side hudler won in SO against Vancouver....Im happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarbyGuy 4 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 I, like many others here, would love to see Jiri Hudler gone. He floats around from line to line. Babcock doesnt know what to do with him. Ive got an idea. Buy him out of his contact. They have the capspace to do so and to replace him. Just my 2 cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 I, like many others here, would love to see Jiri Hudler gone. He floats around from line to line. Babcock doesnt know what to do with him. Ive got an idea. Buy him out of his contact. They have the capspace to do so and to replace him. Just my 2 cents we wouldn't need to buy him out... we can get a return for him - its just going to be something small at this point. holland doesn't want to give him up for anything and certainly doesn't want to have to buy him out. 1 Drake_Marcus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBflinker 29 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 If no one wants Hudler now we just gotta hope he has a decent season and ups his trade value. Maybe then we can deal him with picks/prospects at the deadline for a decent top 6 scoring forward. I also like the idea of just a straight up Hudler for Nabakov trade, most of the backup goalies I liked have been signed and I think the Islanders would be willing to do this trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) Ah yes, two-way players like Holmstrom, Bertuzzi, and Franzen. The epitome of offense combined with defense. So quit complaining about people bringing up Datsyuk's '09 playoff run and calling him a ghost. The stats show that he wasn't putting in the effort. Hudler had trouble scoring for about 30 games, but he was working as hard as anyone from about game 15 on and was creating scoring chances, playing well in the corners and backchecking hard. Yet he gets bagged on about effort and defense based on his nationality, or his play several years ago. "No Love" for Hudler I think you are responding to the wrong folks Eva, you need to contact Holland, Babcock, and the rest of the DRW Organization as I said before.... "Wings would not be shopping Hudler if he was what they expecting" Hope they get him out of here, get someone in here who can put up goals/assists, and want to be here.... At the same time, wherever Jiri lands, he will want to be there and help that team accordingly. Edited July 4, 2011 by Rivalred 1 Casey reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Personally I hope a lot of people are "eating crow" by the end of the year on this subject 1 Drake_Marcus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Personally I hope a lot of people are "eating crow" by the end of the year on this subject We all hope that. And if it happens, I gladly will. Until then, Hudler is lazy and he sucks. Trade his ass. 2 cjm502 and sleepwalker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) Agreed. Hudler is a Wing, and once the season starts, he is one of us. I will cheer him on, delight in his glory, share his dejection in his shame, and hope against all hope that he will prove that he is worthy of the title of Red Wing. Until then, I look for better options. As you might guess, I generally hate mid-season trades. Edited July 4, 2011 by 55fan 4 Casey, Wingzman91, Drake_Marcus and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Mmm. Well, good news then because next season Hudler will be paid like about 64% of a frigging Ville Leino. yeah but Huds had 65% of Leino's points last season.Sounds like a fair overpayment for Leino,lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted July 4, 2011 We all hope that. And if it happens, I gladly will. Until then, Hudler is lazy and he sucks. Trade his ass. I love how this excuse is used on the forum to justify swirling negativity about aspects of one's own team they cheer for. If one truly hopes they are eating their own crow there's no need to make a statement such as this. They just hope Jiri does well, wherever he may be, and while having rightful criticism don't need to make outlandish parachute-like comments to soften the landing of assertions that have a high likelihood of leading to a faceplant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 any sort of deal and the Wings would have to take on the = cap hit from the dealing side as its a no goer with anyone. not sure if Kenny has kicked the tyres with the Isle regards Nabby, as they do have 4 goalies signed up. Not sure who else off the Isle roster Kenny would be interested in and that they would want to loose. Trent Hunters cap hit with Nabbys is about as close as youll get combined for Hudlers hit. The Isle aint gunna give up a 6'3" power forward for a 5'9" guy no matter what he has done in the past. I think Kenny is resigned to keeping Rex this year, hope he turns it up and then can sort out any future contract at the end of next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
