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Wings sign D Ian White to 2-year, $5.75m contract
Started by germanwing, Jul 02 2011 03:23 PM
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:40 PM
Ian White - 27 yrs old - 401 games - 143 pts - 2.875 million per
James Wisniewski - 27 yrs old - 329 games - 148 pts - 5.5 milion per
No doubt is Wiz is a better player but 2.625 per, either we really under paid or the BJ's severely over paid, I will take the latter on that one.
James Wisniewski - 27 yrs old - 329 games - 148 pts - 5.5 milion per
No doubt is Wiz is a better player but 2.625 per, either we really under paid or the BJ's severely over paid, I will take the latter on that one.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:40 PM
how much cap do we have after this signing?
About 6.5 Give or take.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:41 PM
how is this guy cheaper than ericsson?
White is $2.8mil per and Ericsson is $3.2 per if I'm not mistaken.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:41 PM
Ian White was paid $3 million last year by the Sharks?
Holland signs him at 2.8 million... 200k less than last year.
Holland signs him at 2.8 million... 200k less than last year.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:43 PM
So now they have 14 forwards and 8 defencemen. If a trade doesn't materialize then the worst forward after the camp is gone either by trade or by waivers or, in case of clearing waivers, in the AHL (Emmerton).
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“We've seen him a lot in the San Jose series,'' general manager Ken Holland told Booth Newspapers. "He can play on the power play, he's a competitor. He's a guy that thinks the game. He's got the skills. We've got skilled defensemen in (Nicklas) Lidstrom, (Niklas) Kronwall, others, and he's comfortable playing with them.''
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:45 PM
So now they have 14 forwards and 8 defencemen. If a trade doesn't materialize then the worst forward after the camp is gone either by trade or by waivers or, in case of clearing waivers, in the AHL (Emmerton).
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I thought this was seven? Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart, White, Ericsson, Commodore, Kindl
Unless you're including Janik. Janik will not be on the team, I can guarantee you that.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:46 PM
im sure hes capable of scoring 40+ points playing with the wings. i think hes a lot more solid defensively than rafalski ever was too.
defense got a lot more solid. offense from the defense decreased a little.
im not happy nor unhappy with the 2 pick ups. now time to find a backup and a sniper. '
dont know whats going to happen once lids is gone though s***
defense got a lot more solid. offense from the defense decreased a little.
im not happy nor unhappy with the 2 pick ups. now time to find a backup and a sniper. '
dont know whats going to happen once lids is gone though s***
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:47 PM
im sure hes capable of scoring 40+ points playing with the wings. i think hes a lot more solid defensively than rafalski ever was too.
defense got a lot more solid. offense from the defense decreased a little.
im not happy nor unhappy with the 2 pick ups. now time to find a backup and a sniper. '
dont know whats going to happen once lids is gone though s***
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Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:48 PM
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:48 PM
I thought this was seven? Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart, White, Ericsson, Commodore, Kindl
Unless you're including Janik. Janik will not be on the team, I can guarantee you that.
They're assuming Smith will make the team out of camp. But with this move he's probably gonna have to stay in G.R. another season.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:48 PM
So I take it that means Smith will have another year of development. Which is good, I didn't think his defensive game was NHL ready.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:51 PM
They're assuming Smith will make the team out of camp. But with this move he's probably gonna have to stay in G.R. another season.
Yeah there was definitely no chance of this ever happening despite Holland's comments about how ready it was. Last time a Red Wings prospect only played one or less years in the AHL was Zetterberg.
Might as well let him put up 15 goals, 50 points in the AHL then be a contender for the Calder the year after.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:52 PM
About 6.5 Give or take.
According to Cap Geek the Wings have $7,045,455 left. That includes 22 players on the roster:
--14 Forwards (including Mursak and Emmerton, noting that the Wings are rumoured to be looking for a trade involving Hudler)
--7 Defense (including Kindl as the 7th man)
--1 Goaltender
If they do end up moving Hudler the cap space will jump back up to $9,920,455.
If Holland is able to get one of the as-of-yet unsigned RFA defencemen (Yandle please) he'll move Kindl and use Commie as an affordable 7th d-man.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:53 PM
Not all that knowledgable about him. Glad to see we signed someone, and people seem to think it's a bargain, so cool. Doesn't sound like he's anything to put us over the top, but if it pushes Big E down the depth chart I'm okay with it. Thumbs up, Holland!
EDIT: I don't think Holland is still looking for another defenseman. Unless he's planning on moving some people. Hopefully he still grabs a forward. I imagine he won't spend up to the cap. There's just not enough available and that gives him wiggle room at the deadline.
But how much space do you all think he'll leave? If we have 7 million, 1.5 for a backup, 4 for a scorer? Any reliable scorers that cost around 4?
EDIT: I don't think Holland is still looking for another defenseman. Unless he's planning on moving some people. Hopefully he still grabs a forward. I imagine he won't spend up to the cap. There's just not enough available and that gives him wiggle room at the deadline.
But how much space do you all think he'll leave? If we have 7 million, 1.5 for a backup, 4 for a scorer? Any reliable scorers that cost around 4?
Edited by VM1138, 02 July 2011 - 03:57 PM.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:54 PM
Backup goalie? 
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:54 PM
Just enjoy this everyone.
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Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.
Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:54 PM
I thought this was seven? Lidstrom, Kronwall, Stuart, White, Ericsson, Commodore, Kindl
Unless you're including Janik. Janik will not be on the team, I can guarantee you that.
Whoops, my bad. Seven it is. I'm counting Smith as the first call-up, so Janik is number 9 in my books.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 03:55 PM
According to Cap Geek the Wings have $7,045,455 left. That includes 22 players on the roster:
--14 Forwards (including Mursak and Emmerton, noting that the Wings are rumoured to be looking for a trade involving Hudler)
--7 Defense (including Kindl as the 7th man)
--1 Goaltender
If they do end up moving Hudler the cap space will jump back up to $9,920,455.
If Holland is able to get one of the as-of-yet unsigned RFA defencemen (Yandle please) he'll move Kindl and use Commie as an affordable 7th d-man.
I fully expect there is a 0% chance of this happening now that he signed White, but if he were able to bring Yandle here, good god...
Lidstrom - Yandle
Kronwall - Stuart
White - Commodore
That would be nothing short of incredible.
EDIT: Haha, woops, I completely forgot about Ericsson. Obviously he's in for Commodore.
Edited by Agalloch93, 02 July 2011 - 03:59 PM.
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