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[P. Marlowe]

So now we have two new handsome Canadian defensemen who can hit and fight. *drool*

Edited by P. Marlowe, 02 July 2011 - 03:55 PM.

[Drake_Marcus]

So now they have 14 forwards and 8 defencemen. If a trade doesn't materialize then the worst forward after the camp is gone either by trade or by waivers or, in case of clearing waivers, in the AHL (Emmerton).



MLive

If Smith makes the team out of camp Holland will make a trade of some sort. There's zero chance they keep Smith on the roster unless he's secured the 6th defensive spot. You don't let an asset like that rot in the pressbox when he could be playing 25 mins a night in Grand Rapids.

So now we have two new handsome Canadian defensemen who can hit and fight. *drool*

Holland obviously made a concerted effort to get meaner on the back end. The Wings D is bigger and tougher than it's been in a long time.

[e_prime]

If Holland is able to get one of the as-of-yet unsigned RFA defencemen (Yandle please) he'll move Kindl and use Commie as an affordable 7th d-man.

Would not be averse to this at all. ...but Holland isn't really doing any more work this offseason is he??

Not all that knowledgable about him. Glad to see we signed someone, and people seem to think it's a bargain, so cool. Doesn't sound like he's anything to put us over the top, but if it pushes Big E down the depth chart I'm okay with it. Thumbs up, Holland!

Like the C64 signing, White will offer some serious competition for ice time for the D-men not named Kronwall, Stuart, and Lidstrom. I like this move. Hopefully the new D-coach will inspire some competition between them as well.

[Dominator2005]

Great price for White!!!

[Drake_Marcus]

This signing is what the French would call "Le Insurance". If Kenny can't land a legit top 2 offensive d-man via trade he can sit tight for a bit longer and wait for an opportunity.

[Jusek]

BTW, he blocked 144 shots last season. Detroit's best was Kronwall with 129 blocks.

[Drake_Marcus]

Would not be averse to this at all. ...but Holland isn't really doing any more work this offseason is he??

Getting a 24 year old kid like Yandle is just the kind of thing Holland will push hard for. Yandle could be a cornerstone in Detroit for another 10 years.

[VM1138]

Getting a 24 year old kid like Yandle is just the kind of thing Holland will push hard for. Yandle could be a cornerstone in Detroit for another 10 years.

If the Wings somehow got Yandle...that'd be insane. But with signign White and Commodore, doesn't it seem like Holland is done there? Why bother signing Commodore at all, then? Maybe it was insurance, but now that he signed both, that boxes us out of any other defensemen probably, unless we do a sign and trade, which would be unheard of for Holland.

[Heaten]

Looks like Holland won't be in the Yandle sweepstakes.

How is White's speed? Hope he has some wheels

[Agalloch93]

If we get Yandle we win the Cup. We were only three goals behind leading the NHL in offense last year despite significant injuries to Cleary and Datsyuk and with Yandle we'd have the best defense in the NHL.

I certainly don't expect this to happen though and I'm not gonna flip out at Holland if he doesn't pull it off like many undoubtedly will.

[sputman]

So now we have two new handsome Canadian defensemen who can hit and fight. *drool*

white fought markus naslund in '08-09 to a draw with an overall fight rating of 1.7.

[stuck in socal]

This is a good signing given the situation that the Free Agency went this year. We did not overpay for White, and he is pretty young at twenty seven years old. Holland, you redeemed yourself in my book. Commodore looks motivated to play and is an ample replacement for Salei, and White is an ample replacement for an aging and wore down by injuries Brian Rafalski.

White - Lids
Kronwall - Stuart

That is a solid top 4. Adding Yandle to that mix and I would cry of happiness.

[Shaman464]

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Drew Miller ($0.837m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
/ Mike Commodore ($1.000m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Ty Conklin ($1.000m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,254,544; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $6,045,456


This team looks pretty good, and a lot of cap space on top of it

Edited by Shaman464, 02 July 2011 - 04:11 PM.

[Dimaline312000]

For the price I think that is a great signing. Glad to see the Wings getting decent replacements for Rafalski. I'm not a huge Ian White fan but IMO this is a pretty good signing. Now time for a goalie decision.

[pvilleguru]

much better than the ericsson deal.

[haroldsnepsts]

Don't know a ton about him, but seems like a decent signing at a good price.

He's not gonna replace Rafalski's offense really, but with him, Commodore, and Ericsson, at least there's not some options on the bottom three of the blueline, and potential for guys to step up.

[pvilleguru]

if he can play better defensively than rafs and chip in 30 points a year, i'll be happy.

[McAwesome]

This is a good signing, kinda takes a bit of the sting off Ericsson's overpayment. White will not single-handedly replace all of Rafalski's offense, but he has above average offensive instincts, a heavy shot from the point/high slot, and is a right-handed shot, which fits right into the role he is expected to play. Not bad defensively either.

Now, with the remaining ~6mil in cap space, lets bring in a sniper for the top 6, go into camp with 15 forwards, 8 defensemen, and let the best lineup work itself out.

[Heaten]

How is this kids foot speed? Anyone?

[Agalloch93]

If they DO decide to sign another forward Arnott is really the only worthwhile one left that I can see. He was awful with the Devils last year, but everything about the Devils was awful last year.