Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Lebderp's contract ends after this season, Franson will be RFA and looking for a raise.. say he makes at least Lebderp's level, we'll say 1.5, it'll probably be more after this year's offseason. Lombardi was slated to make 3.5 the year after this. So assuming Lebderp and Franson cancel out in terms of salary for the 12-13 season (Lebda would be off the books anyhow), Nashville saves 3.5m in salary for that year via Lombardi, who may or may not come back to form after a nasty concussion. This is a salary move, but not so much for this upcoming season; rather, it's for the next, when Suter is set to become a UFA. For this year, Nashville has the internal assets to solidly replace Franson on defense and keep Lebda as a backup. They may also replace Lombardi from within; they have some solid forward prospects making their way up from within the system. Good move for both sides. 1 greenrebellion reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 How in the world can TO move Bart Ledba and we are unable to move Hudler? 3 LidsFan, BigWillieStyle and sleepwalker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Nashville have an internal cap, not an NHL cap. yeah,I know,but they dumped 'only' $2.85M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted July 3, 2011 yeah,I know,but they dumped 'only' $2.85M Lebda's contract comes off the books next year, so actually, it's more. This could be over half of what Suter re-signs for. Pretty significant, actually. Looks like Suter won't be available after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 How in the world can TO move Bart Ledba and we are unable to move Hudler? He will be moved if Kenny wants to move him, he's probably just waiting to see the max amount he can get and who he is going to fill that roster spot with, when the deal is made... just be patient... 1 Rebound reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) He will be moved if Kenny wants to move him, he's probably just waiting to see the max amount he can get and who he is going to fill that roster spot with, when the deal is made... just be patient... Hard to be patient when the team is missing: 1 goalie 1-2 forwards 1 Defense (maybe if one is traded and another higher end is somehow acquired) 2 coaches 1 partridge in a pear tree Edited July 3, 2011 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 I definitely think Toronto wins this trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 This offseason continues to baffle me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) Hard to be patient when the team is missing: 1 goalie 1-2 forwards 1 Defense (maybe if one is traded and another higher end is somehow acquired) 2 coaches 1 partridge in a pear tree July 3rd. I repeat... July 3rd. The goalie we're missing is a BACKUP The forward needs are debatable in the first place, but once again, July 3rd, and trades still exist. Coaches are Babs decision, and unless they're not there come training camp, that's hardly something to get worked up about... Once again, I re-itterate. Be patient... I feel like a damn grief counselor, talking people off buildings on this board around this time of year... Edited July 3, 2011 by stevkrause 1 Rebound reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho613 74 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Over the years I have come to respect what Nashville has been able to do, competing with players that aren't superstars and still giving the Wings and Western Conference fits and making the playoffs. But this off season they have lost and not really gained anything good. I can't see how Weber would want to stay on a team that is going backwards. But then again, the Preds done it before without top notch talent so maybe they can do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 This offseason continues to baffle me... Other than a little bit of a head scratcher in E's contract, I've loved it so far, Holland has managed to get tremendous value in a very thin FA class and filled holes without mortgaging our future, or putting us in cap hell for an unproven, or over-rated player and there have been other very entertaining contracts/trades, that have been fun to watch... and the beauty is... July 3rd. It's not done yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Over the years I have come to respect what Nashville has been able to do, competing with players that aren't superstars and still giving the Wings and Western Conference fits and making the playoffs. But this off season they have lost and not really gained anything good. I can't see how Weber would want to stay on a team that is going backwards. But then again, the Preds done it before without top notch talent so maybe they can do it again. thats what im thinking too. if nashville is still going to operate on a small budget, that means there'll be less money to spend on other players after signing weber and suter. why would weber want to stay? he could get his $$$ elsewhere on a team that will spend to field a more competitive roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) July 3rd. I repeat... July 3rd. The goalie we're missing is a BACKUP The forwards are debatable in the first place, but once again, July 3rd and trades still exist, or were those forgotten about? Coaches are Babs decision and unless they're not there come training camp, that's hardly something to get worked up about... Once again, I re-itterate. Be patient... I feel like a damn grief counselor, talking people off buildings on this board sometimes around this time of year... I might need to talk you off your soapbox a little considering I haven't been around much over 7+ weeks and not up to date on the hockey world. I am catching up this weekend and just posted in what I see... And yes, I realize you are just frustrated with everyone saying "blah blah blah" and that is the time you finally decided to respond to such, but pick a more well deserving candidate next time; aka a broken record. I am not going to get into a pissing match over FA's, gaps in the roster, and woulda-coulda-shoulda thoughts nor am I going to derail a thread. If ya want to share more, feel free to PM me and I may get around to reading, checking, and responding. / clean up as I have to read up on hockey transactions + sweep up all the dried powdered soap from the broken soap box. Good for the Leafs, I hope this trade really helps them this season and as for the Preds, they are a hardworking team... Fun to watch, but do not enjoy playing against them. May the Lebda transaction help Detroit during games and in the standings in a positive manner. Edited July 3, 2011 by Rivalred 1 Heroes of Hockeytown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 (edited) I might need to talk you off your soapbox a little considering I haven't been around much over 7+ weeks and not up to date on the hockey world. I am catching up this weekend and just posted in what I see... And yes, I realize you are just frustrated with everyone saying "blah blah blah" and that is the time you finally decided to respond to much, but pick a more well deserving candidate next time. / clean up as I have to read up on hockey transactions + sweep up all the dried powdered soap from the broken soap box. In that case, I apologize for it being in reply to your post as it not entirely directed at you... as you've missed a LOT of asinine, knee jerk over-reactions over these past 7 weeks, just go back and read some of the threads and you'll see where I'm coming from...however, the whole context of my post was not directed entirely at you... With that said, I still think your post specifically was a little bit of an over-reaction to our current situation... the holes we still need to fill are minor and nothing to be concerned about... that was all I was getting at in response to you directly. Edited July 3, 2011 by stevkrause 1 Rebound reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Welp. Nashville just got much easier to play against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Welp. Nashville just got much easier to play against. Only have to worry about one d pairing there now, and if Lebda dresses, that's a guaranteed goal or two for, per game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agalloch93 28 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Lebda's contract comes off the books next year, so actually, it's more. This could be over half of what Suter re-signs for. Pretty significant, actually. Looks like Suter won't be available after all. I like how you assume Suter wants to re-sign in the first place. If this trade proves anything it's that Nashville simply doesn't have the cap flexibility to realistically ever be a favorite for the Stanley Cup, the only time they did was in 2006-2007 and ever since then all they want to do is drop as much payroll as possible. I could definitely see Suter moving on. Or he stays put, who cares? They still just got destroyed in this trade. You don't trade a young second pairing d-man for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 just a matter of time before it's renamed "brettlebdville." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 did they need more cap room for weber or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Franson is a good young defenseman but he isnt exactly a stud either. Hes a PP specialist but he was still the 6th defenseman on Nashville. He plays no shorthanded time and plays 15 minutes a night. Sure hes a good young player but looks to be a number 4 defenseman, he sint good in his own zone at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Maybe he married Taylor Swift or something. My sister thought I had texted "Lebda for Franzen trade" and freaked out. 1 Rebound reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 Maybe he married Taylor Swift or something. My sister thought I had texted "Lebda for Franzen trade" and freaked out. I would love to see the reaction of this place if Holland were to get absolutely wasted and that were to happen, God forbid. 1 Rebound reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted July 3, 2011 I would love to see the reaction of this place if Holland were to get absolutely wasted and that were to happen, God forbid. it'd be all rofling until it was confirmed and then you'd see heads rolling down your street. Only have to worry about one d pairing there now, and if Lebda dresses, that's a guaranteed goal or two for, per game... guarantee he'll get his only goal against us. that crap always seems to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 it'd be all rofling until it was confirmed and then you'd see heads rolling down your street. guarantee he'll get his only goal against us. that crap always seems to happen. Wonder if he'll pull a Leino and suddenly turn good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishconnection 36 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Wonder if he'll pull a Leino and suddenly turn good. Leino wasnt good while he was here. He made Kopecky look like an excellent choice to keep as UFA while he was in the D. Different team, different style, different opportunity yielded crazy results. Kind of felt the same way as Quincy. Back on topic, Bart Lebda was a known quantity that Holland decided not to keep. Especially since TO was tossing Finger money at him. I still feel a large portion of the blame for the outrageous contracts we have seen over the past 2 years can be directly derived from TO signing Finger and the following year Lebda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites