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[Wingzman91]

This year's waiver question.
Both have to be waived to go to Grand Rapids, who makes the team?

I like both players, but I think Conner's speed and experience give him the edge here.

I'd pick Conner and waive Emmerton, what do you guys think?

[wings1110]

well tatar should be up before both but that wont happen, as he doesnt have to go through waivers. but Emmerton and connor both do. Emmerton cuz hes still young and the wings have invested alot into him, and dont wanna lose him.

[GSBrooks13]

I wanna say Emmerton because he's been in the system for this long.. but I gotta go with Conner, him and Helm on the same line is too much for me too pass up on.

[mwagner468]

emmerton some big boobies she's got there.

[dirtydangles]

gotta be emmerton. wings have invested a lot in this kid. if holland really is making a push for youth, he's gotta be thinking emmerton.

[Wingzman91]

I wanna say Emmerton because he's been in the system for this long.. but I gotta go with Conner, him and Helm on the same line is too much for me too pass up on.

This was my exact thought, and that with Mursak that would be the fastest line in the NHL, not the best hands though, awesome energy.

[Wings4Life19]

if im not mistaken, isn't Conner on a two-way deal, and wont have to pass through waivers?

[echos myron]

Two way deals are for AHL/NHL salary. He still has to go through waivers.

[Buppy]

if im not mistaken, isn't Conner on a two-way deal, and wont have to pass through waivers?

Both have two-way deals, but both still have to clear waivers. Two-way deals do not affect regular waivers.

On-topic: I chose Emmerton, only because there was no 'other' option. I'm still hoping for another regular forward that can challenge for a top-6 or 3rd scoring line role.

[Wingzman91]

if im not mistaken, isn't Conner on a two-way deal, and wont have to pass through waivers?

Capgeek and one other source I read has it as a standard contract, meaning he'd have to go through waivers.

I was afraid I might jump the gun if it is a 2 way as details are changing every day.

If this is a 2 way then there is nothing to worry about, I apoligize.

Edit: Seems he is still vulnerable, so the debate is on!

Edited by Wingzman91, 08 July 2011 - 09:48 PM.

[Red Wings Addict]

I prefer both in Grand Rapids.

Is it likely that someone will claim Emmerton off of waivers?

[egroen]

I'd vote other as well - not too stressed to lose either of them to waivers and hope there is a trade in the works.

I prefer both in Grand Rapids.

Is it likely that someone will claim Emmerton off of waivers?

I put him on a similar level to Ritola - smaller, some skill with some good wheels and energy. Decent chance he gets claimed.

[Wingzman91]

I prefer both in Grand Rapids.

Is it likely that someone will claim Emmerton off of waivers?

IMO, I don't see either passing through waivers.

[MulesWillFly93]

I wanna say Emmerton because he's been in the system for this long.. but I gotta go with Conner, him and Helm on the same line is too much for me too pass up on.

Same here. I don't know much about Conner, but if he's as speedy as everybody says, that would be fun to see!

Would also like to say that if the Isles claim either off waivers, you will be able to hear me scream all the way over on Long Island.

[eva unit zero]

Emmerton is quick and has good skill, so would fit well as a substitute when Franzen/Holmstrom/Bert miss games, or on one of the top three lines if he makes the top-twelve. Conner doesn't have the hands or hockey sense to play an offensive role, but he is a hard worker and a good grinder despite his size; and he's fast. Conner in the lineup for Abdelkader would make for a Mursak/Helm/Conner line, allowing the Wings to utilize Eaves' shot on a scoring line.

Potential lineups with each player:

Hudler/Zetterberg/Franzen
Filppula/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi
Cleary/Helm/Eaves
Mursak/Emmerton/Holmstrom

Hudler/Zetterberg/Cleary
Franzen/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Bertuzzi/Filppula/Eaves
Mursak/Helm/Conner

Both of those are solid lineups, but I think I prefer to run with this regular lineup:

Hudler/Zetterberg/Cleary
Filppula/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Franzen/Abdelkader/Bertuzzi
Mursak/Helm/Eaves

It's certainly easy to plug Emmerton into Abdelkader's spot in that lineup as the third line center, also.

[Hockeymom1960]

Emmerton is quick and has good skill, so would fit well as a substitute when Franzen/Holmstrom/Bert miss games, or on one of the top three lines if he makes the top-twelve. Conner doesn't have the hands or hockey sense to play an offensive role, but he is a hard worker and a good grinder despite his size; and he's fast. Conner in the lineup for Abdelkader would make for a Mursak/Helm/Conner line, allowing the Wings to utilize Eaves' shot on a scoring line.

Potential lineups with each player:

Hudler/Zetterberg/Franzen
Filppula/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi
Cleary/Helm/Eaves
Mursak/Emmerton/Holmstrom

Hudler/Zetterberg/Cleary
Franzen/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Bertuzzi/Filppula/Eaves
Mursak/Helm/Conner

Both of those are solid lineups, but I think I prefer to run with this regular lineup:

Hudler/Zetterberg/Cleary
Filppula/Datsyuk/Holmstrom
Franzen/Abdelkader/Bertuzzi
Mursak/Helm/Eaves

It's certainly easy to plug Emmerton into Abdelkader's spot in that lineup as the third line center, also.

[jeff48109]

I prefer both in Grand Rapids.

Is it likely that someone will claim Emmerton off of waivers?

Yzerman might.

didnt think Ritola would get claimed

[13dangledangle]

I prefer both in Grand Rapids.

Is it likely that someone will claim Emmerton off of waivers?

Steve Yzerman will...

[eva unit zero]

Yzerman might.

didnt think Ritola would get claimed

Emmerton would definitely be claimed. Ritola has the size advantage, but Emmerton has the skill. Ritola's big issue has always been just like Franzen when he first came to Detroit; a big bodied forward that never goes to the net. The big difference is that Ritola is a playmaker and has very limited goal-scoring skills. Emmerton has a lot more speed than Ritola, is a better playmaker, and is a better goal scorer. He's fast and he's defensively responsible. If Ritola had made the team last year, he'd be gone this year in favor of Emmerton. The only thing that would prevent a team from claiming him would be his size.

As for Conner, I can't speak to his waiver chances. He's nothing more than a grinder at the NHL level, so it comes down to whether a team needs a grinder like Conner. I would expect him to have a much easier time clearing than Emmerton because of this; most teams have players with similar grinding ability to Conner and so won't really look at grabbing him unless there's a monetary reason or trade reason they need a new guy. Emmerton is a good prospect, potential second-line center, so most teams would think about taking a shot there. Certainly teams that are thin at forward would take him on, hoping the NHL move creates a huge burst of development (a la Howard) and they have another core player.

[Majsheppard]

This year's waiver question.
Both have to be waived to go to Grand Rapids, who makes the team?

I like both players, but I think Conner's speed and experience give him the edge here.

I'd pick Conner and waive Emmerton, what do you guys think?

I will bet everything I have that Emmerton is on the team.