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#41 stevkrause

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:10 PM

Ahhh okay. He's older than McCollum and doing much better than him, they really should give him a shot at being the backup, at least. At 25, he's got to start getting some NHL experience.

Agreed, as long as the comments weren't as bad as they were made out to be, because if they were, you don't want a locker room cancer either... if they're not going to play him though, they really should trade his rights, so he can get a shot somewhere...

Edited by stevkrause, 11 July 2011 - 12:11 PM.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:29 PM

the thing we hear pre-season by Babs and Kenny is that the best players will get to play. Well i know that in a few situations this hasnt happened (sending Leino to Gr in 08-09) so what Larsson say's most of us would agree with it. will be very interesting to see if Smith and Tatar have a great camp, what the powers to be will do. save the talk guys if you havent got the balls to follow it thru, its a dangerous game that you play. Mursak and Tatar and maybe Emmerton will skate a few of the vets off the rink, but i doubt they'll get picked before them when it comes to it, they should if their true to their word, but we all know they wont.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:39 PM

Love this signing. Hope he can back up Jimmy again and push him for the #1 spot like he did last year.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:06 PM

haha macdonald was never close to the number 1 spot. buttt i think if they go with ozzy, he'll be good to go. if there is any hesitation in how he feels he'll do this season, they won't sign him.... would love to see conks too however.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:27 PM

Love this signing. Hope he can back up Jimmy again and push him for the #1 spot like he did last year.


MacDonald hasn't the slightest opportunity of becoming a #1 goaltender. He's a career third-stringer.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:37 PM

Any of our Swedish brethren here that can help? I'm really interested to hear the exact translation now, because "is getting up there in years" can easily be twisted into "washed up" and "I pushed Jimmy real hard in Grand Rapids and beat him out for the job" can easily get twisted into "washed the floor with him"

A lot can be lost in translation, so I just wonder how bad it really was...


Swede here! Actually it really says "i washed the floor with him" and Larssons comment on Osgood is also quite disrespectful; "he is more or less done/washed up". I would say that Larsson really seems like a cocky guy who is full of himself in that article. Although its Aftonbladet, so you should probably take it with a grain of salt. Lots of sensational journalistics with that newspaper (although it looks like direct qoutes from larsson).

Im personally not sold on Larsson at all, i think a guy like Salak for example outplayed him this year in SEL.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:48 PM

I already decided I wasn't going to get sucked into this... but damn it, Osgood is a better call and I want him back. I am more worried about who would step in during the playoffs per injury then who steps in during the regular season.

Joey as number three and Osgood as number two.

Good deal, I would be so happy. He can get 10 wins easy and take number 8 overall. It would be great for Howard as well.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:49 PM

ugh... I never remember seeing that comment... regardless of how he feels, you don't throw other players under the bus... is that out of context, or conjecture by the reporter? Did he actually make those statement, because if so, that doesn't sound like a guy you want on your team, regardless of talent level...


At least Hope Solo is hot.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:29 PM

Not quite sure what to expect from this signing. I can't see why the Wings would sign him as a GR goalie and not solve Detroit's back-up goalie issue. Is Holland losing his mind or is this just a single part of a genius plan for the Wings. I guess only time will tell. No disrespect but I hope Osgood isn't our back-up in the NHL. I was hoping to see that we signed Conklin I just hope Kenny knows what he's doing.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:40 PM

Swede here! Actually it really says "i washed the floor with him" and Larssons comment on Osgood is also quite disrespectful; "he is more or less done/washed up". I would say that Larsson really seems like a cocky guy who is full of himself in that article. Although its Aftonbladet, so you should probably take it with a grain of salt. Lots of sensational journalistics with that newspaper (although it looks like direct qoutes from larsson).

Im personally not sold on Larsson at all, i think a guy like Salak for example outplayed him this year in SEL.

Well there it is... thanks for the translation and input...

If nothing else, that is a piss poor attitude and makes me not want him in that locker room, but I still think that we should at least trade him to a team where he can get a shot, especially if we can get an asset in return...

At least Hope Solo is hot.

I don't follow on the relevance? Are they dating or something?

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:43 PM

Well there it is... thanks for the translation and input...

If nothing else, that is a piss poor attitude and makes me not want him in that locker room, but I still think that we should at least trade him to a team where he can get a shot, especially if we can get an asset in return...

TBH, I don't give a s*** about giving a shot to someone that rips teammates or guys that have done more in their careers than he'll likely ever come close to in his. All I care about is the last part of what you stated, I'd like to get an asset in return if he's not part of our future plans. That be case, get someone who is...but there's still time for that given his contract status.

I don't follow on the relevance? Are they dating or something?

I assume he was referring to the fact that they're both goalies in their respective sports.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:46 PM

TBH, I don't give a s*** about giving a shot to someone that rips teammates or guys that have done more than he'll likely ever come close to. All I care about is the last part you stated, I'd like to get an asset in return if he's not in our plans for the future. That be case, get someone who is...but there's still time for that given his contract status.


I assume he was referring to the fact that they're both goalies in their respective sports.

Exactly, it's not so much giving him a shot for his sake, but just for the fact that, on the ice, he's proven he's ready... that alone should be good enough for us to, at least, be able to get a mid level pick in return...

Goalie comparison - kind of a reach, but fair enough.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:49 PM

Well there it is... thanks for the translation and input...

If nothing else, that is a piss poor attitude and makes me not want him in that locker room, but I still think that we should at least trade him to a team where he can get a shot, especially if we can get an asset in return...


I don't follow on the relevance? Are they dating or something?


I second the skepticism of Aftonbladet for what it's worth. Players are just more candid with the Swedish media than they are here in the US and Aftonbladet can really run with it at times. I don't have any examples offhand so hopefully the Swedish fans on here can back me up but even Lidstrom has said some things to Aftonbladet that would make you think, "Hmm... Did he really say that?"

And the Hope Solo comment was in regards to her outspokenness about how much better she would've been in 2007/8 (?) than the goalie they started against Brazil. She actually ended up alienating her teammates. Larsson's unwise statement of "I wiped the floor with Jimmy Howard" was said in kind of the same spirit/attitude. But again, Hope Solo is hot. :hehe:

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:54 PM

Just say no to Osgood.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:56 PM

Exactly, it's not so much giving him a shot for his sake, but just for the fact that, on the ice, he's proven he's ready... that alone should be good enough for us to, at least, be able to get a mid level pick in return...

Goalie comparison - kind of a reach, but fair enough.


I think you're being a bit harsh. These aren't kids (at least they aren't paid like kids). This is newpaper info (from a reportedly somewhat sketchy news source) from thousands of miles away from the locker room. It's not like he tweeted it, or it was published on MLive, etc. Hell, you're bothering with getting people to translate it.

You don't get to be the best without thinking it (regardless of how humble you are in the press).

I'll worry about his opinions of his teammates when it becomes a problem on the ice or in the locker room.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 03:06 PM

I think you're being a bit harsh. These aren't kids (at least they aren't paid like kids). This is newpaper info (from a reportedly somewhat sketchy news source) from thousands of miles away from the locker room. It's not like he tweeted it, or it was published on MLive, etc. Hell, you're bothering with getting people to translate it.

You don't get to be the best without thinking it (regardless of how humble you are in the press).

I'll worry about his opinions of his teammates when it becomes a problem on the ice or in the locker room.

Fair enough, but how do we know that he and Jimmy don't have a problem with one another IN the locker room and this is why we haven't seen him already? Taken out of context or not, that's not the way you talk about someone you LIKE...

My point I'm getting at, is, if we're not going to play him, we should trade him... he has nothing left to prove at lower levels...

I second the skepticism of Aftonbladet for what it's worth. Players are just more candid with the Swedish media than they are here in the US and Aftonbladet can really run with it at times. I don't have any examples offhand so hopefully the Swedish fans on here can back me up but even Lidstrom has said some things to Aftonbladet that would make you think, "Hmm... Did he really say that?"

And the Hope Solo comment was in regards to her outspokenness about how much better she would've been in 2007/8 (?) than the goalie they started against Brazil. She actually ended up alienating her teammates. Larsson's unwise statement of "I wiped the floor with Jimmy Howard" was said in kind of the same spirit/attitude. But again, Hope Solo is hot. :hehe:

ahhhh, ok, that makes the comparison make a LOT more sense... I don't follow soccer, so I wasn't aware of her comments, but I will agree that she's pretty easy on the eyes :)

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 03:07 PM

This is 'win win" for Joey and the Wings.
I really wanted Theo, but after Jose Theodore was picked up by Flordia, I couldnt really see a RFA that could fit here without a huge cap hit! I like it
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 04:09 PM

Both Ansar Khan and Helene St. James are reporting this is a 3rd string signing.

Freep - Helene St. James

"He's going to be our third guy," general manager Ken Holland said.



MLive - Ansar Khan

General manager Ken Holland said he still is seeking a backup for Jimmy Howard.


Helene St. James seems more optimistic about Osgood's chances, however both articles make it sound like Holland will most likely be looking elsewhere.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 04:15 PM

This signing makes me think Kenny might actually be leaning towards Osgood, which is why he signed the insurance policy, which I am VERY hesitant of coming off of such a serious injury for a goalie and at his age as well... I love Ozzie and wanted him to go out on his own terms, but I don't think he's a better option than some of the guys still available... groin injuries are no joke, especially for goalies, ESPECIALLY for goalies who are 38...

Before Osgood, I would rather, in this order, see our backup be:
Conklin
Larsson
Leclaire


I wouldn't mind Conklin, but Larsson has no NHL experience and Leclaire is more injury prone than Ozzie at this point. In any case, if Osgood is the backup then I'm fine with it knowing that the newly re-signed Joey MacDonald can handle the backup role if need be.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 05:13 PM

Other goalies have rebounded from groin hip/groin injuries, most recently Tim Thomas or even in 2008 Dom Hasek.

Osgood may have a year or so left in him if healthy.

Edited by Rivalred, 11 July 2011 - 05:13 PM.

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