2012-13 Realignment Leak?
#41
Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:40 AM
#42
Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:19 AM
This would be awesome since I live in the Philly area....get to see the Wings more = win!
Same here, I'm Lancaster, Pa... Already have my tickets for Wings vs Flyers, Wings Vs Caps and working on wings vs isles...
As for realignment, please bring Detroit to the east!!!
#43
Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:39 AM
But, if it means no more 9:30 starts when they're in Vancouver, Anaheim, etc.. sign us up! I'd rather spend the money to take a trip to Detroit than stay up ridiculously late throughout the whole season.
#44
Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:51 PM
The Winnipeg Jets are content to sit and smile while NHL decision-makers work on realignment formulas.
The Jets would prefer to be shifted to the Northwest Division next season, joining Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton and a geographic rival in the Minnesota Wild.
Playing more games in Canada not only has obvious rivalry benefits but has its financial advantages because it's less costly flying principally in Canada than in the U.S.
A shift to the Central Division is also a strong possibility for the Jets; with Detroit, Nashville and Columbus all eager to move east.
The Red Wings will continue to quietly campaign for a move, perhaps, seeking support from influential Eastern Conference teams like Toronto, Philadelphia and the New York Rangers to help sway the vote at the December board meetings.
Detroit, however, has offered a concession.
The Wings are willing to stay in the West, providing they travel to Western Canada once instead of twice and far West into the United States once instead of twice per season.
Eastern Conference teams don't see a need for a drastic change and all clubs remain concerned over the uncertainty of the Phoenix Coyotes and the potential for future realignment.
The perfect scenario would see the Coyotes ownership issues resolved prior to the December vote.
In any case, the Winnipeg Jets will be keen observers of the process.
#45
Posted 02 October 2011 - 05:10 PM
Western Conference (11 teams for now).
Northwest: Wild, Jets, Canucks, Flames, and Oilers
Southwest: Stars, Avs, Coyotes, Sharks, Kings, Ducks
NorthEastern Conference (9 teams for now).
Canada Division: Maple Leafs, Canadiens, Senators, Sabres
Atlantic Division: Bruins, Islanders, Rangers, Devils, Capitals
Central Conference (10 teams).
Midwet Division: Red Wings, Blackhawks, Penguins, Flyers, Blue Jackets
Southeast Division: Blues, Panthers, Lightning, Predators, Hurricanes.
If the Coyotes move to Quebec, which I guess is a strong possibility, they simply move from Southwest Division to Canada Division, otherwise just go with unbalanced conferences. it works fine for the MLB.
For playoffs, top 2 seeds from each division play vs each other, and the winners play vs the other division series winner in the conference. Have 3 conference brackets and 1 wildcard bracket (top 4 seeds that didn't happen to be a 1 or 2 seed in their division. seed them 1-4 based on points and have 1-4, 2-3 and the winners play for a chance to go to the semis) Seed the remaining 4 teams based on regular season standings for the semi finals. I know its complicated, but every team will have similar travel and geographic rivals and most traditional rivals are in the same conference.
#46
Posted 04 October 2011 - 11:06 AM
#47
Posted 04 October 2011 - 05:04 PM
http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=594302
Money of the Board-2013 Playoff Edition: Current $31 ($5 per series win {1}, $5 per series sweep, $5 per Kronwalling {2}, $2 per Jimmy shutout or fight, $2 per Tootoo goal or fight, $2 per Mule or Brunner goal {8})
#48
Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:00 PM
As far as EJ Hradek's comments in the earlier post, I don't see how Detroit would fit into the Southeast divison. Nasvhille yes, Detroit no.
#49
Posted 04 October 2011 - 09:49 PM
Remember, this is the same league that thinks Dallas is on the West coast & therefore in the Pacific division. Granted, it would make more sense to actually talk Dallas or Nashville instead of Detroit to the Southeast when it comes right down to it if all they're going to do is slide a team into that division.Honestly, for the strength of the whole league, I would prefer to see Detroit and Columbus move to the eastern time zone division(s). Columbus has good players, and their natural rival is the penguins. They should be playing in the same division with them, not the Wings. Detroit also belongs in the east. This may leave two 8 team divisions in the east, and two 7 team divisions in the west. You can't have your cake and eat it too. So do you want to be in an eight team division in the east? Or stay in the west?
As far as EJ Hradek's comments in the earlier post, I don't see how Detroit would fit into the Southeast divison. Nasvhille yes, Detroit no.
Money of the Board-2013 Playoff Edition: Current $31 ($5 per series win {1}, $5 per series sweep, $5 per Kronwalling {2}, $2 per Jimmy shutout or fight, $2 per Tootoo goal or fight, $2 per Mule or Brunner goal {8})
#50
Posted 04 October 2011 - 11:10 PM
#51
Posted 04 October 2011 - 11:30 PM
I think they'd better putting Columbus in the Southeast versus Detroit or heck Dallas!Remember, this is the same league that thinks Dallas is on the West coast & therefore in the Pacific division. Granted, it would make more sense to actually talk Dallas or Nashville instead of Detroit to the Southeast when it comes right down to it if all they're going to do is slide a team into that division.
#52
Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:38 AM
Remember, this is the same league that thinks Dallas is on the West coast & therefore in the Pacific division. Granted, it would make more sense to actually talk Dallas or Nashville instead of Detroit to the Southeast when it comes right down to it if all they're going to do is slide a team into that division.
The league doesn't "think" Dallas is on the West coast, they just had no where to put them.
HankthaTank - Squirrels, they hate to be thrown. / Why is the magical unicorn named Brian... Jedi - I just downloaded the "kids" book, "Go the F--k to Sleep" as narrated by Samuel L. Jackson on my kindle. I am now ready to be a daddy. / *Checks Router* No, I'm positive I didn't hit the "Wings Defense Sucks" button. Electrophile - I'm just glad the Wings were able to win despite the Curse of Brian. ACallToArms - I think Trey needs to put something about payroll tax and deferred income in his sig... Edicius - I'd rather [have] a soundbite of me saying "I like (man sausage)" rather than "I like Crosby".
#53
Posted 05 October 2011 - 01:13 AM
Edited by TheDetroitRedWings, 05 October 2011 - 01:14 AM.
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#54
Posted 05 October 2011 - 08:58 AM
Oh subtle sarcasm, why are you lost on so many people?The league doesn't "think" Dallas is on the West coast, they just had no where to put them.
Don't think that a league that would stick Dallas in a division where all the other teams are 2 time zones away would hesitate putting Detroit in a division with teams in Washington DC, Raleigh, Tampa Bay, & Miami. What the NHL needs is a far-reaching, visionary realignment that addresses all of the current issues. What we'll get instead is the Board of Governors just moving one team from the West into Atlanta's old spot in the Southeast. What they should do at minimum, in my opinion, is move Nashville to the SE, Dallas to the Central, Vancouver to the Pacific, & put Winnipeg in the NW.
Edit: Before anyone points it out, yes Phoenix is only 1 time zone away from Dallas for part of the season.
Edited by ogreslayer, 05 October 2011 - 08:59 AM.
Money of the Board-2013 Playoff Edition: Current $31 ($5 per series win {1}, $5 per series sweep, $5 per Kronwalling {2}, $2 per Jimmy shutout or fight, $2 per Tootoo goal or fight, $2 per Mule or Brunner goal {8})
#55
Posted 05 October 2011 - 09:23 AM
..well, so much for that one!
I still say the best would be Detroit and Columbus move East and have a 14 and 16 team conference. Seems to work fine for MLB. Just like MLB the East could have three divisions with 5, 6, 5 teams and the West would have 5, 5, 4.
Wales Conference:
Atlantic:
Pit - Phl - Rags - NJD - Iles
Norhteast:
Det - Tor - Mtl - Buf - Ott - Bos
SouthEast:
CBJ - WAS - TPA - CAR - FLA
Campbell Conference:
Central:
NAS - CHI - STL - MIN - DAL
Northwest:
VAN - CAL - EDM - WIN
Pacific:
ANA - LAK - SAN - COL - PHX
...works for me, but of course this is the NHL, so none of that will happen.
#56
Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:35 AM
I like the idea of the league realigning and Detroit moving east, but I don't see it happening.
#57
Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:09 PM
Tom (Lincoln Park)
Pierre, I think the odds of Detroit going East under realignment are less than 10%. It seems like a lot of the WC teams (especially those in CA and Phoenix) need the boost in sales when they come to town, and the teams in the EC probably aren't too excited to make their conference that much more difficult. Would you agree?
Pierre LeBrun (12:48 PM)
Right now betting money is on Detroit going East. But a lot can change between now and December BOG vote
Money of the Board-2013 Playoff Edition: Current $31 ($5 per series win {1}, $5 per series sweep, $5 per Kronwalling {2}, $2 per Jimmy shutout or fight, $2 per Tootoo goal or fight, $2 per Mule or Brunner goal {8})
#58
Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:48 PM
Even though we traditionally take a dump when we play the Leafs, I want Detroit to play them 6 times a year and allow my friends and I to put aside our differences over a glass of cold, hard facts.
Detroit>Toronto and the rest of the East.
#59
Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:10 PM
Oh subtle sarcasm, why are you lost on so many people?
Don't think that a league that would stick Dallas in a division where all the other teams are 2 time zones away would hesitate putting Detroit in a division with teams in Washington DC, Raleigh, Tampa Bay, & Miami. What the NHL needs is a far-reaching, visionary realignment that addresses all of the current issues. What we'll get instead is the Board of Governors just moving one team from the West into Atlanta's old spot in the Southeast. What they should do at minimum, in my opinion, is move Nashville to the SE, Dallas to the Central, Vancouver to the Pacific, & put Winnipeg in the NW.
Edit: Before anyone points it out, yes Phoenix is only 1 time zone away from Dallas for part of the season.
Except there was no possible way to detect sarcasm when you are making points on a subject manner. Oh subtle sarcasm, why can't people do it correctly.
HankthaTank - Squirrels, they hate to be thrown. / Why is the magical unicorn named Brian... Jedi - I just downloaded the "kids" book, "Go the F--k to Sleep" as narrated by Samuel L. Jackson on my kindle. I am now ready to be a daddy. / *Checks Router* No, I'm positive I didn't hit the "Wings Defense Sucks" button. Electrophile - I'm just glad the Wings were able to win despite the Curse of Brian. ACallToArms - I think Trey needs to put something about payroll tax and deferred income in his sig... Edicius - I'd rather [have] a soundbite of me saying "I like (man sausage)" rather than "I like Crosby".
#60
Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:57 AM
"Mess up tomorrow, don't mess up now".
- Harry James Benson, CBE.
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