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Has anyone noticed what they are doing in Sunrise, FL?

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ah...my favorite topic is back, it's a lazy day, let's try this angle:

These are just the 1st rounders.

1993: Rob Niedermayer (5th overall) - Jun 23 '01 - Traded to Cal for Valeri Bure, Jason Wiemer.

1994: Ed Jovanovski (1st overall) - Jan 17, '99 - Traded to Van w/ Dave Gagner,Mike Brown, Kevin Weekes,1st in '00 for Pavel Bure, Bret Hedican, Brad Ference.

1995: Radek Dvorak (10th overall) - Dec 30, '99 - Traded to SJ for Mike Vernon.

1996: Marcus Nilson (20th overall) - Mar 8, '04 - Traded to Cal for a '04 2nd round (David Booth).

1997: Mike Brown (20th overall) - see Jovanovski trade.

1998: (Vincent Lecavalier)(1st overall).- Nov 13, '97 - Traded this pick, Dave Lowry to SJ for Victor Kozlov, SJ dealt it to TB, who drafted the all-star.

1999: Denis Shvidki (12th overall) - total miss -

2000: (23rd overall) - See Jovanovski trade.

2001: Stephen Weiss (4th overall) - Still with the team.

2001: Lukas Krajicek (24th overall) - Jun 23, '06 - Traded to Van w/ Roberto Luongo for Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen, Alex Auld.

2002: Jay Bouwmeester (1st traded for 3rd overall) - Jun 27, '09 - Traded his rights to Cal for the rights to Jordan Leopold. (Rick Nash went 1st)

2002: Petr Taticek (9th overall) - Mar 09, '06 - Traded to Pitts for Richard Jackman. (3 career NHL games,drafted 2 spots higher than Ballard, who FL later traded for)(Jackman later was traded to Ana for a 6th round pick, he went on to win the cup that year)

2003: Nathan Horton (1st traded for 3rd overall) - Jun 22, 2010 - Traded to Bos w/ Gregory Campbell for Dennis Wideman, 1st in '10.(Marc-Andre Fleury went 1st)

2003: Anthony Stewart (25th overall) - Panthers let him go, Atl picked him up/Win didn't want him, now he is in Car.

2004: Rostislav Olesz (7th overall) - Jun 24, '11 - Traded to Chi for Brian Campbell.

2005: Kenndal McArdle (20th overall) - Jul 8, '11, Traded to Win for Angelo Esposito.

2006: Michael Frolik (10th overall) - Feb 9, '11 - Traded w/Alexander Salák to Chi for Jack Skille, Hugh Jessiman, David Pacan.

2007: Keaton Ellerby (10th overall) - Still with the team.

2008: (9th overall) - Jun 22, '07 - Traded to Nash for Tomas Vokoun.

2009: Dmitri Kulikov (14th overall) - Still with the team.

2010: Erik Gudbranson (3rd overall), Nick Bjugstad (19th overall) & Quinton Howden (25th overall) - Yet to debut.

2011: Jonathan Huberdeau (3rd overall) - Yet to debut.

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Ok, this is far out guessing but I'd think they might be a better team with most of these players.

A 2006-07 team built and managed right could have looked like this :

Nash-Lecavalier-Whitney

Huselius-Jokinen-Hagman

Campbell-Horton-Neidermayer

Booth-Weiss-Dvorak

Cullen-Olesz-Stumpel

Boyle-Neidermayer

Jovanovski-Montador

Krajicek-Kuba

Van Ryn-Lilja

Luongo (could be M-A Fleury, but the one good deal in Panthers history brought them Lu and no Horton then)

McLennan

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That is obviously a dream scenerio, but who's to say they didn't treat Neidermayer better that his brother wouldn't have come to FL from NJ instead of to ANA.

If you drop Scott Neidermayer into the top 4 on defence and take both players from the champion Ducks, also no Jackman for the Ducks because they didn't move Taticek.

or even the year before, taking Whitney and Cullen's 33 combined playoff points and adding them to this roster?(if they kept Whitney they likely wouldn't have got Cullen but 1 or the other for sure)

The worst thing is now I am so past thinking it will change, teams like NYI could suck for years because they have history, the Panthers have been (re)building since inception.

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This is smokescreen from Spendthrift Tallon to make it look like FLA is doing something. 2 big ?

1. Line Chemistry. You can't just strap 3 forwards together and say go. doesn't work like that.

2. G.O.A.L.T.E.N.D.I.N.G. Theo = roller coaster and Clemmensen = Serviceable, never started.

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