CenterIce 83 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 There saying Weber got 7.5m from arbitration. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Not much else to happen this year. From an NHL.com article someone posted earlier, Nashville has to accept this, since they initiated the case. I think this barely gets them to the floor, and they would still have a couple of roster spots available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 7.5mill is more than i expected Well they better pay up or theyre f***ed. they got good momentum coming out of this last season too. it would be devastating to lose him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 I wonder what Bobby Orr's thoughts are of him. 1 Majsheppard reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Well they better pay up or theyre f***ed. they got good momentum coming out of this last season too. it would be devastating to lose him. Well, if they walk they better lock up Suter and Rinne real quick like. but you know, all momentum may have been destroyed as soon as they traded for Lebda. Edited August 3, 2011 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 3, 2011 Weber now has the highest cap-hit of any defenseman in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 Weber now has the highest cap-hit of any defenseman in the league. Player with the highest salary arbitration award ever too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 Well, if they walk they better lock up Suter and Rinne real quick like. They can't walk. That's what he's getting from them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest echos myron Report post Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Well, if they walk they better lock up Suter and Rinne real quick like. they can't walk away from it beaten to it Edited August 3, 2011 by echos myron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 Don't know what Nashville was thinking here. They were never going to get anywhere near the number they wanted; $4.75M is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) they can't walk away from it beaten to it I stand corrected?? It is totally not clear in the CBA that it stands that way. Read the bolded. Doesn't that read to you the team can still walk away? 12.6. Walk-Away Rights. (a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one year contract, and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is issued (or if a Club has any other player still eligible for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player, the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to tender to the player a Player Contract based on the award as determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that notice, the player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent, subject to the provisions of paragraphs © and (d) below. For the record, I'm not saying that you guys are wrong that the club can't walk away... but I'd love some clarity. Edited August 3, 2011 by e_prime 2 Dave and lil Wing's fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 324 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) I stand corrected?? It is totally not clear in the CBA that it stands that way. Read the bolded. Doesn't that read to you the team can still walk away? 12.6. Walk-Away Rights. (a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one year contract, and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is issued (or if a Club has any other player still eligible for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player, the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to tender to the player a Player Contract based on the award as determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that notice, the player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent, subject to the provisions of paragraphs © and (d) below. For the record, I'm not saying that the club can't walk away... I'd love some clarity. It looks pretty clear to me that Nashville can walk away. However, they still have 15.6 mil of cap space available and walking away would be retarded. I think Nashville was just trying to get Weber on the cheap, which backfired (still they did save 1 million). Oops. I though the 15.6 million was without signing Weber, but that's WITH Weber. I couldn't imagine if the Wings had that kind of cap space. Edited August 3, 2011 by Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) http://www.nhl.com/i...od-rr-headlines its all over. well we can always make a stab at him next year (though theyll prolly just take him to arb again), or go for suter. 7.5 mill is alot of money Edited August 3, 2011 by number9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 http://www.nhl.com/i...od-rr-headlines its all over. well we can always make a stab at him next year (though theyll prolly just take him to arb again), or go for suter. 7.5 mill is alot of money My guess is that they lock him up long term before the deadline, or trade him for a RANSOM at the deadline... one way or another, he will never see FA or arbitration again... if they took him to arbitration again, I'm sure the NHLPA could file a grievance and would probably win since he'll be so close to 27 and it's such an extenuating circumstance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 Interesting. Everything I had seen said they could walk, but someone posted an NHL.com article saying they couldn't since the team brought it. This makes it look like they can walk. Don't think they will, especially now they are cap compliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nhurdi 42 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 My guess is that they lock him up long term before the deadline, or trade him for a RANSOM at the deadline... one way or another, he will never see FA or arbitration again... if they took him to arbitration again, I'm sure the NHLPA could file a grievance and would probably win since he'll be so close to 27 and it's such an extenuating circumstance... To my understanding the team cannot take him to arbitration again as they have already done so. Weber could take them to arbitration however if he wanted. At that point the team could elect to walk away from the offer. As for if he can walk away or not this year it is a little confusing, I would however think that the article on NHL.com is written by people who know what they are doing and thus the team has no way to walk away. Lets be honest even if they could they wouldn't anyway's. Not to mention no article has even mentioned the possibility of walking away that I have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 My guess is that they lock him up long term before the deadline, or trade him for a RANSOM at the deadline... one way or another, he will never see FA or arbitration again... if they took him to arbitration again, I'm sure the NHLPA could file a grievance and would probably win since he'll be so close to 27 and it's such an extenuating circumstance... As far as I know, they could only take him to arbitration once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 I am an idiot. They cannot walk. If I would have read all the way through the section. I downloaded the entire CBA. It states in section 12.10 (e) No Club shall be entitled to walk away from any award in a Club-elected salary arbitration. Guess it couldn't be more clear. If only I read the whole thing. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 3, 2011 It looks pretty clear to me that Nashville can walk away. Wrong. You're not looking at the section that deals with team-requested arbitration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 As far as I know, they could only take him to arbitration once. Well then, there you go, even further reason why he'll never see arbitration again... like I said, he will either be locked up long term, or dealt (for a ransom) by the deadline... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommyt 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Some reports are that weber is likely to be traded. http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-08-03/shea-weber-trade-arbitration-nashville-predators Edited August 3, 2011 by tommyt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 Some reports are that weber is likely to be traded. http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-08-03/shea-weber-trade-arbitration-nashville-predators It just says one NHL executive thinks that is what they should do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 i dont think id want weber for 7.5 mil, thou itd be nice to have him play with lids. this deal kinda makes me think that kronners and stewies asking prices are gonna go wayyyyyyy up next summer *gulp* 1 wiszo1mt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 http://www.nhl.com/i...od-rr-headlines its all over. well we can always make a stab at him next year (though theyll prolly just take him to arb again), or go for suter. 7.5 mill is alot of money This part of the article blows my mind. Weber, who earned $4.5 million last season, when he was a finalist for the Norris Trophy, reportedly asked for an $8.5 million reward while the Predators countered at $4.75 million. Unless the term was 15 years or something, they might as well just offered a bag of pucks. It would have been equally insulting. 1 EuroWing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltawing 12 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 Some reports are that weber is likely to be traded. http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-08-03/shea-weber-trade-arbitration-nashville-predators Yes, please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted August 3, 2011 i dont think id want weber for 7.5 mil, thou itd be nice to have him play with lids. this deal kinda makes me think that kronners and stewies asking prices are gonna go wayyyyyyy up next summer *gulp* id take him for 8 and under. he is on another level to kronner and stuart. I see them getting up to 5mill but weber is the best young dman in the league and runner up for norris. if u want a lidstrom replacement - this is it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites