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#41 hillbillywingsfan

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:23 AM

I think it also sends a bad message to the fans and the rest of the team. Weber is the franchise. Not being able to come to terms with him could be seen as a lack of commitment to putting together a winning team. And it's not like this deal snuck up on them. They've had plenty of time to prepare for what it would take to sign him.

So true. Hasn't nashville been like this pretty much since they have been in the league? They never want to spend money on their players it seems.

Edited by hillbillywingsfan, 03 August 2011 - 11:23 AM.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:31 AM

Let's just cross our collective fingers and hope that Nashville has a REALLY crappy season this year and watch how the situation between Weber and the team deteriorates slowly as the losses pile up. Hey, I can dream.

Maybe he'd be available at the deadline kind of like Kovy was. ATL was still in the playoff hunt, but traded him because they couldn't get him signed. Start submitting your wish list for players and prospects to give up along with the 2 #1 draft choices for the next few years.....
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:55 AM

Let's just cross our collective fingers and hope that Nashville has a REALLY crappy season this year and watch how the situation between Weber and the team deteriorates slowly as the losses pile up. Hey, I can dream.

Maybe he'd be available at the deadline kind of like Kovy was. ATL was still in the playoff hunt, but traded him because they couldn't get him signed. Start submitting your wish list for players and prospects to give up along with the 2 #1 draft choices for the next few years.....


Even at the deadline, we'll be unlikely to pick up such a good defenseman from a divisional rival.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:04 PM

Even at the deadline, we'll be unlikely to pick up such a good defenseman from a divisional rival.

agreed, but there is a chance with the re-alignment that we won't be division rivals after this season, we won't even be conference rivals...

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:39 PM

Let's just cross our collective fingers and hope that Nashville has a REALLY crappy season this year and watch how the situation between Weber and the team deteriorates slowly as the losses pile up. Hey, I can dream.

Maybe he'd be available at the deadline kind of like Kovy was. ATL was still in the playoff hunt, but traded him because they couldn't get him signed. Start submitting your wish list for players and prospects to give up along with the 2 #1 draft choices for the next few years.....

Smith, Kindl, Tatar, and 2, 1st round picks

THAT is likely what it would take... form your own opinion of whether or not you're willing to part with this package to make it happen, I'm not saying whether I am for or against parting with this to get Weber here in return, but just stating what it WILL take...

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:35 PM

Smith, Kindl, Tatar, and 2, 1st round picks

THAT is likely what it would take... form your own opinion of whether or not you're willing to part with this package to make it happen, I'm not saying whether I am for or against parting with this to get Weber here in return, but just stating what it WILL take...

And here I was hoping it would only take Hudler, a bag of pucks, & a "Comedy Stylings of Pavel Datsyuk" DVD. :ph34r:

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:45 PM

"Comedy Stylings of Pavel Datsyuk" DVD


Just the menu screen alone should net us Suter, Weber, and a player to be named later.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:50 PM

There saying Weber got 7.5m from arbitration. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:53 PM

Smith, Kindl, Tatar, and 2, 1st round picks

THAT is likely what it would take... form your own opinion of whether or not you're willing to part with this package to make it happen, I'm not saying whether I am for or against parting with this to get Weber here in return, but just stating what it WILL take...


I don't think I'd make that trade. At some point 2 first rounders (Smith, Kindl) + 2 future first rounders + a steal of a second rounder (Tatar) has to be more valuable than Weber. Not to mention a hell of a lot cheaper. But I agree, that's a pretty good ballpark asking price.
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:56 PM

7.5mill is more than i expected

Edited by dirtydangles, 03 August 2011 - 01:57 PM.

Is there a kickstarter campaign for Jakub Kindl to never play another NHL game?


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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:58 PM

There saying Weber got 7.5m from arbitration. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.


Not much else to happen this year. From an NHL.com article someone posted earlier, Nashville has to accept this, since they initiated the case. I think this barely gets them to the floor, and they would still have a couple of roster spots available.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:58 PM

7.5mill is more than i expected


Well they better pay up or theyre f***ed. they got good momentum coming out of this last season too. it would be devastating to lose him.
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 02:05 PM

I wonder what Bobby Orr's thoughts are of him.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 02:23 PM

Well they better pay up or theyre f***ed. they got good momentum coming out of this last season too. it would be devastating to lose him.


Well, if they walk they better lock up Suter and Rinne real quick like.

but you know, all momentum may have been destroyed as soon as they traded for Lebda. :ph34r:

Edited by e_prime, 03 August 2011 - 02:45 PM.

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(AtomicPunk @ February 4, 2010 - 12:16AM)

Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 02:36 PM

Weber now has the highest cap-hit of any defenseman in the league.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 02:43 PM

Weber now has the highest cap-hit of any defenseman in the league.



Player with the highest salary arbitration award ever too.
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(AtomicPunk @ February 4, 2010 - 12:16AM)

Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 02:45 PM

Well, if they walk they better lock up Suter and Rinne real quick like.


They can't walk. That's what he's getting from them.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 02:45 PM

Well, if they walk they better lock up Suter and Rinne real quick like.


they can't walk away from it


beaten to it

Edited by echos myron, 03 August 2011 - 02:46 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2011 - 02:59 PM

Don't know what Nashville was thinking here. They were never going to get anywhere near the number they wanted; $4.75M is a joke.
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 03:01 PM

they can't walk away from it


beaten to it


I stand corrected?? It is totally not clear in the CBA that it stands that way.
Read the bolded. Doesn't that read to you the team can still walk away?

12.6. Walk-Away Rights.

(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one year contract,
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued
(or if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a Player Contract based on the award as
determined by the Arbitrator.
Upon receipt of that notice, the
player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free
Agent, subject to the provisions of paragraphs © and (d) below.


For the record, I'm not saying that you guys are wrong that the club can't walk away... but I'd love some clarity.

Edited by e_prime, 03 August 2011 - 03:14 PM.

QUOTE
(AtomicPunk @ February 4, 2010 - 12:16AM)

Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.





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