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#121 Barrie

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:59 PM

Fixed that for you.

Weber is RFA next year now too... Suter is more likely.

That works too.
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#122 Crymson

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:32 PM

my point was that they wanted BOTH Hossa and Franzen and everyone knew that.


I don't get what your point is.

This means that a world class defenseman can play and be effective with any solid player....see Lids as an example. His play didnt drop off when "the better" defenseman left.


Lidstrom is the best in the world and arguably the best defenseman of the modern hockey era. Weber is not Lidstrom. It has been suggested by many that his excellent offensive numbers are made possible by the defensive prowess of Suter. Weber's numbers when Suter was not in the lineup were not good at all.

Although Weber hasnt won a Norris yet, he has been a runner -up and recognized as a top 5 d-man in the league. You are right...we don't 100% know if he can do it without Suter, but it looks like the league and his peers think he can.


No, the jury is still out.

What happened to Campbell having a cap hit of 8.2???


His cap hit is $7,142,875.

Edited by Crymson, 04 August 2011 - 11:34 PM.


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Posted 05 August 2011 - 09:53 AM

I'm not sure what the big deal is. He'll get a 1 year deal in arbitration, probably in the $6M-$7M range, and Nashville will accept it. That gives Weber another year to see if the Preds are willing to spend to get some talented forwards. If they fail to improve their forwards, Weber will hope for an offer sheet next summer since the team can't force him to go to arbitration again. If they do improve, Weber signs long term and hopefully Suter becomes available.



It's funny how everyone who doesn't understand how arbitration works throws that out...team ALWAYS goes low and the players ALWAYS goes high.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 09:26 AM

Im just hoping the nhl realignment takes us out of nashvilles division, so the possibility of a trade with them for weber is more likely. Maybe at next years draft, thats the dream anyways. I dont think we can tango with other teams willing to toss great stuff at nashville when hollands been real tough on not trading anything.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 12:08 PM

Have the Islanders put in a claim on Weber yet?

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#126 number9

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 12:46 PM

Lidstrom is the best in the world and arguably the best defenseman of the modern hockey era. Weber is not Lidstrom. It has been suggested by many that his excellent offensive numbers are made possible by the defensive prowess of Suter. Weber's numbers when Suter was not in the lineup were not good at all.


I've payed attention to nashville alot because i love legwand, rinne (i thinks hes the best goalie out there right now), and the suter weber combination (its just down right sexy). the rest of the team is s***. weber is big and bad, has a cannon, and is right handed. everything the wings need on defense. suter is much smaller compared to weber, doesnt have the giant cannon weber has, is left handed, but is the better defenseman. much of webers play and stats can be attributed to suter. suter is smart and defensively sound. weber just brings that x-factor and its amplified when he plays with a great defense partner. when suters gone weber is half the player he normally is. look at how well he did playing in the all star game with lids! i would be very worried of weber coming to this team and not having lids to play with. i could see him playing with kronners thou....if we turn kronners into the next lidstrom.....hell never be able to fill lidstroms shoes but hopefully he can play that role and could be webers suter.

#127 Majsheppard

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 08:38 PM

Seriously how did Campbells cap hit change... it was 8.2 when he was signed right? So how can it be less now?
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.

#128 BostonBruinsDan1924

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 09:44 PM

I think he will get a $6.5M or $6.75M deal...just not with Nashville.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 09:54 PM

Im just hoping the nhl realignment takes us out of nashvilles division, so the possibility of a trade with them for weber is more likely. Maybe at next years draft, thats the dream anyways. I dont think we can tango with other teams willing to toss great stuff at nashville when hollands been real tough on not trading anything.



The realignment with the Wings coming back east isn't going to happen. Schmuckman isn't going to disrupt the rivalries that the Wings have with the Blackhawks, Preds, Sharks and so on. I know schmuckman promised Kenny that the Wings would come east, however, I just don't see that going down. Then again schmuckman can make me look like a liar...weirder things have gone down.

#130 Doc Holliday

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 11:11 AM

Seriously how did Campbells cap hit change... it was 8.2 when he was signed right? So how can it be less now?


It was always 7.4

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 12:46 PM

It was always 7.4


$7,142,875

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 02:17 PM

$7,142,875


Close enough.

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#133 Majsheppard

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 10:28 PM

Am I the only one that thought that he got 8.2? Where did I get that number from then?
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.

#134 e_prime

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 10:04 AM

Am I the only one that thought that he got 8.2? Where did I get that number from then?


Probably a salary number, Maj. No big deal. 7.1, 7.4, 8.2... all numbers that should not go alongside Brian Campbell's name.
All too big.
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(AtomicPunk @ February 4, 2010 - 12:16AM)

Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 09:59 AM

According to the transcript of the decision, obtained by Slap Shots, Picher dismissed the club's attempt to use Phoenix's Keith Yandle ("Keith Yandle simply does not present as a player who can be responsibly compared to Mr. Weber") and Winnipeg's Dustin Byfuglien ("While Mr. Byfuglien, like Mr. Yandle, is an excellent player, he has logged only one season in the NHL as a defenseman") as comparables, and instead zeroed in on the only two comparables submitted by Weber -- Chicago's Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook.

Furthermore, the arbitrator reached his decision based on the compensation due Keith and Seabrook this coming season, including signing bonuses, rather than on their respective cap hits over the course of their long-term contracts. This was not about a multi-year deal; this was about compensation for 2011-12.

Read more: http://www.nypost.co...I#ixzz1V12XJ8wK


So, it's two current Chicago defensemen that are the benchmark rather than the former.

Edited by e_prime, 14 August 2011 - 10:02 AM.

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(AtomicPunk @ February 4, 2010 - 12:16AM)

Imma let you finish, and your cap numbers are all good and all that, but imma let Kenny figure it out. Kenny's cap numbers were the best cap numbers this year.





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