toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 Did they have player polls when yzerman played and how many times did he win the biggest whiner by his peers? Yzerman was pretty much respected in all aspects of the game so thats a non argument. Theres a difference in complaining and just flat out whineing. No idea on player polls, but he did make #4 on a referrees list of biggest whiners of ALL-TIME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 No idea on player polls, but he did make #4 on a referrees list of biggest whiners of ALL-TIME. When he was retiring Stevie even joked about the refs being glad to see him go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 I think your views of him as a person are pretty skewed and mostly based on what year hear people saying (whether there is anything to back it up or not). I'd challenge you to spend a week following him around everywhere and actually get to know what the guy is all about and then come back and tell me what you think about the guy as a person, his character, etc. Okay, you set it up and I will spend a week with him. I am game for this experiment. 1 hillbillywingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 He's also a ball-puncher from behind who jumps guys in the face-off dot. esteef 2 hillbillywingsfan and hooon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 Okay, you set it up and I will spend a week with him. I am game for this experiment. I'll see what I can do. You'll have to get out to Halifax now though as summer is quickly coming to an end. I was just there the past couple weeks (my hometown, but I live in Toronto now). If you spend enough time around the local rinks, you might run into him. If you want to be a stalker though, I do know where he lives and where his parents live (they have a nice new house now on the water...no doubt financed by him). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 I guess I never made it clear. I'm talking more along the lines of on-ice character not off. He may be the greatest person alive OFF the ice but on the ice he just seems like more of the diver,whiner,ball puncher and so on in my eyes but i don't hate the dude really for that although its frustrating. I have read where even some of the tough guys of the league are the greatest people off the ice. For example pronger. I know about 90% it seems on here hate pronger but I have friends on the ducks board that have met him before and say he is awesome. Greatest guy. Again my hate is more of the league cramming him down our throats and not pushing the other great stars of the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 I guess I never made it clear. I'm talking more along the lines of on-ice character not off. He may be the greatest person alive OFF the ice but on the ice he just seems like more of the diver,whiner,ball puncher and so on in my eyes but i don't hate the dude really for that although its frustrating. I have read where even some of the tough guys of the league are the greatest people off the ice. For example pronger. I know about 90% it seems on here hate pronger but I have friends on the ducks board that have met him before and say he is awesome. Greatest guy. Again my hate is more of the league cramming him down our throats and not pushing the other great stars of the league. Well, that's totally different then. I don't normally get bothered too much by any player's on ice play. The things that people point out that Crosby does are done by the vast majority of the players in the league, it's overblown for him because of his stature. I only get bothered occassionally by some players. Some examples would be guys like Maltby. I'd have no problem with his play (for the most part) if he didn't run away from the s*** he stirs up. When you think of diving, I can't stand Lapierre and especially the faces he makes at other players, drives me crazy. Then there is Cooke. I love the way he plays most of the time, but as everyone knows, he goes too far way too often, which I can't stand. Avery just seems like a dick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 He's also a ball-puncher from behind who jumps guys in the face-off dot. esteef That takes some serious dexterity and flexibility. Thanks for the odd mental picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 Well, that's totally different then. I don't normally get bothered too much by any player's on ice play. The things that people point out that Crosby does are done by the vast majority of the players in the league, it's overblown for him because of his stature. I only get bothered occassionally by some players. Some examples would be guys like Maltby. I'd have no problem with his play (for the most part) if he didn't run away from the s*** he stirs up. When you think of diving, I can't stand Lapierre and especially the faces he makes at other players, drives me crazy. Then there is Cooke. I love the way he plays most of the time, but as everyone knows, he goes too far way too often, which I can't stand. Avery just seems like a dick. Totally true. I agree with Crosby getting overblown. I'm sure I fall into that fact a little myself. Far as malts. thats what part of his game that would frustrate me to no end. He would be flapping his gums and then when it would be step up time he would skate off and let other players take the heat. Man just think about being on the ice on the other team with him. hahaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ToMaToToWnWinGsFaN_24 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 oh how i missed LGW!! ive been in the carribean for most of the summer and im baked to a crisp i really hope its not the end of his career. i dont think it will be. but then again concussions arent pretty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 Totally true. I agree with Crosby getting overblown. I'm sure I fall into that fact a little myself. Far as malts. thats what part of his game that would frustrate me to no end. He would be flapping his gums and then when it would be step up time he would skate off and let other players take the heat. Man just think about being on the ice on the other team with him. hahaha. <Reads first paragraph. Smirks. Makes mental note about Tony. Gets bad mental picture. Shakes head. Declines comment.> I miss Malts. 2 hooon and hillbillywingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted August 19, 2011 <Reads first paragraph. Smirks. Makes mental note about Tony. Gets bad mental picture. Shakes head. Declines comment.> I miss Malts. HAHAHAHAHA. Now I'm thinking the same. Greaat. 2 hooon and hillbillywingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted August 20, 2011 <Reads first paragraph. Smirks. Makes mental note about Tony. Gets bad mental picture. Shakes head. Declines comment.> I miss Malts. HAHAHAHAHA. Now I'm thinking the same. Greaat. hahahahahah..I had to plus you both on that one. =) I guess everyone knows how i "REALLY" feel=) 2 hooon and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Kabrok_ 5 Report post Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) I'll see what I can do. You'll have to get out to Halifax now though as summer is quickly coming to an end. I was just there the past couple weeks (my hometown, but I live in Toronto now). If you spend enough time around the local rinks, you might run into him. If you want to be a stalker though, I do know where he lives and where his parents live (they have a nice new house now on the water...no doubt financed by him). Suddenly everything fits into place. I've lived in a slew of places in North America and Europe, I have never encountered a place where moaning and complaining about EVERYthing is so thoroughly engrained into civic identity as Halifax. Edited August 20, 2011 by _Kabrok_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted August 20, 2011 Suddenly everything fits into place. I've lived in a slew of places in North America and Europe, I have never encountered a place where moaning and complaining about EVERYthing is so thoroughly engrained into civic identity as Halifax. Really?? Do explain. I've been on the planet for 34 years, I've lived in Halifax for 22 years and Toronto for 12 years, so I would hope I could add a bit of real life perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donfishmaster 62 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 I know that there are many delicate sensibilities at the top of this board who are EASILY offended, and, oh dear, upsetting words makes the baby Jesus cry, but when it comes to the prospect of Cindy never playing again: "sympathy" lies somewhere between "s***" and "syphillis" in the dictionary. 2 heretic69 and Electrophile reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) His on-ice demeanour brings the dislike that he's earned. People don't like ******* crybabies. That being said, this injury of his resonates off the ice as well, and I do not wish upon the guy to keep bearing this type of injury, having a concussion and concussion symptoms myself at one point. I don't see what Crosby has done to deserve this, however, being on a Red Wing forum I've certainly got a decent idea. I try and imagine that the love fest for Crosby on this board has to do with gamesmanship and not some personal hatred that transcends the NHL, however, there's always a bunch of douchebags who take the sport that seriously, and are personally unable to let the fact that he beat this team go. I certainly hope they get their problems sorted. I hope Crosby comes back and I hope the Wings beat he and his team's ass. Edited August 21, 2011 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 I try and imagine that the love fest for Crosby on this board has to do with gamesmanship and not some personal hatred that transcends the NHL, however, there's always a bunch of douchebags who take the sport that seriously, and are personally unable to let the fact that he beat this team go. Crosby never beat this team, Zetterberg made sure of that. It was a good effort by the rest of the Pens plus ridiculous help from the league and on-ice officials that beat them. esteef 4 Rick D, YMHC, IILeiBlazeII and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted August 21, 2011 Crosby never beat this team, Zetterberg made sure of that. It was a good effort by the rest of the Pens plus ridiculous help from the league and on-ice officials that beat them. esteef You bring up a point and not by the pedantic correction, but another way.. People complained heavily that Crosby was the league's face for marketing, yet now they give him the attention that transcends the rest of the Penguins and their collective effort that helped them beat the Wings in 2009. Even if I'm guilty of it too, I find it no less ironic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiei 192 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy... Oh, I mean, HOW TERRIBLE! In all seriousness, Crosby should never have played the next game vs Tampa if he had symptoms stemming from the Steckel hit on New Year's Day. Hedman hits him from behind, down again and this time for good. And what's absolutely crazy about all this, remember: The Pens' new rink at the Consol Energy Center was DESIGNED AND BUILT to have a capacity of 18,087. Wouldn't that suck if 87 never played another game at the rink with his number in the seating? 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildwings44 5 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) I hope Cindy is able to come back.... then take another vicious blow to the head....only to end up sidelined for the rest of his career. Edited August 21, 2011 by Wildwings44 2 Hockeymom1960 and sleepwalker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy... Oh, I mean, HOW TERRIBLE! In all seriousness, Crosby should never have played the next game vs Tampa if he had symptoms stemming from the Steckel hit on New Year's Day. Hedman hits him from behind, down again and this time for good. And what's absolutely crazy about all this, remember: The Pens' new rink at the Consol Energy Center was DESIGNED AND BUILT to have a capacity of 18,087. Wouldn't that suck if 87 never played another game at the rink with his number in the seating? Wait a minute. Are you serious? They purposely designed the rink to have a capacity to end in an individual players' number? If that is true that is just stupid. It sends the message that 1 player is more important than the others? Ok. So I looked it up and you are correct. This is just stupid. But then again, it is the Pittsburgh Penguins... 1 vladdy16 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidMichSteve 1,115 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 I hope Cindy is able to come back.... then take another vicious blow to the head....only to end up sidelined for the rest of his career. I wonder what you would think if somebody had said something like that about Stevie Y when he was playing. 4 IILeiBlazeII, Uncle Danny, Namingway and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
softshoes 83 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 If your a true hockey fan, not just a homer, you hope he recovers well enough to play again. Like it or not he is great for the game. Hell if all the players I disliked/hated never played again there would definitely be some serious contraction in the league. 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted August 22, 2011 Hope he recovers to 100% and soon. I want the pens wings rivalry to continue and get more bitter and more battles for the Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
