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#1 newfy

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 06:19 PM

The wings finally have a defenseman who can do this


and than follow it up with this if need be



if Commodore can find his form again and become even a solid number 6 that can play a regular shift, the wings might have found a decent light heavyweight scrapper who can play a bit. I'm hoping he rubs off on guys like Ericcson and Abdelkader who know a 6'5, mean Canadian has their back that is willing to fight if he has too. It will probably help the team as a whole play a little more physical and gives the wings another defenseman who will force opponents to keep their head up.

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 06:25 PM

IF he returns to that kind of physical play, I would be very happy.

We'll just have to see if he has enough work ethic to get the job done.

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 08:16 PM

A defenseman who can time travel to five years ago when he was 26 years old and bring that current form to today?

Yes sir! I've been waiting too!

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 08:35 PM

I'll be more excited when we get another player that can do this.


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Posted 21 August 2011 - 08:59 PM

A defenseman who can time travel to five years ago when he was 26 years old and bring that current form to today?

Yes sir! I've been waiting too!

well than how about this one



youre probaly one of those guys super excited about Brunnstrom because hes skilled but dont think Commodore can return to number 3 defenseman on a cup team form :rolleyes:

I'll be more excited when we get another player that can do this.

Well of course GMR but top 5 heavies all time with the deadliest right hand of all time dont just fall into a team like Detroits lap. Gotta take what you can get sometimes lol and right nwo having a willing guy is as good as it gets

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 08:59 PM

I'll be more excited when we get another player that can do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SM-2KKH7P8

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 09:05 PM

Remember he also did this:



So, he just needs to play smart.

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 09:12 PM

I'll be more excited when we get another player that can do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SM-2KKH7P8

We already got ourselves a guy that gets beat up - his name is Johan Franzen :hehe:

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 09:36 PM

I've been excited about this since I heard about the signing. I think Commie and Ericsson will make a great bottom pair (hopefully E picks up a thing or two about the physical side of the game). Assuming Kindl is the 7th D, everyone in the top 6 except Lids (and E if he can't learn) can lay some decent hits from time to time. I'm really looking forward to watching a defense that can bring that physical element I feel we've been lacking.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 12:15 AM

I'll be more excited when we get another player that can do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SM-2KKH7P8


How many Games do you think kocur gets for the late punch now days? I say 3 and a small fine....If I didn't love the game so much I'd hate it.

Edited by 13dangledangle, 22 August 2011 - 12:15 AM.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 05:45 AM

god kocur threw some absolute hammers.

i remember him breaking somebody's helmet in half with a punch.

just brutal - knuckles like ground chuck.

The wings finally have a defenseman who can do this


we already have a couple of defensemen that are more than capable of doing this.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 05:54 AM

I've been excited about this since I heard about the signing. I think Commie and Ericsson will make a great bottom pair (hopefully E picks up a thing or two about the physical side of the game). Assuming Kindl is the 7th D, everyone in the top 6 except Lids (and E if he can't learn) can lay some decent hits from time to time. I'm really looking forward to watching a defense that can bring that physical element I feel we've been lacking.


not to rain on the Ericsson parade, but people have been hopeful of him turning into a big mean defenseman since Grand Rapids -- i just dont see it happening. A more realistic expectation of him, i think, would be for to him to just play in our own zone more soundly, make the simple plays, and go from there. Sure, it is certainly possible that the Red Wings can tap some of his unused skills, perhaps on the 2nd PP since one of the years in the AHL he won the hardest shot competition during their all star game, and i think we all would love to see him actually play his size, but to me, thats just wishful thinking. You cant just teach someone to play rough, you either have it or you dont.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 08:18 AM

not to rain on the Ericsson parade, but people have been hopeful of him turning into a big mean defenseman since Grand Rapids -- i just dont see it happening. A more realistic expectation of him, i think, would be for to him to just play in our own zone more soundly, make the simple plays, and go from there. Sure, it is certainly possible that the Red Wings can tap some of his unused skills, perhaps on the 2nd PP since one of the years in the AHL he won the hardest shot competition during their all star game, and i think we all would love to see him actually play his size, but to me, thats just wishful thinking. You cant just teach someone to play rough, you either have it or you dont.


I think it's too early to rule out him learning to play with more of an edge. I know he'll never be a Pronger or a Stevens, but he has shown glimpses of having toughness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uo5uAtYfg0

And we especially need more of this type of physicality, the Wings have had issues clearing the front of the net in recent years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMGx2O7tNE&feature=related

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 11:16 AM

If Ericsson could just be a solid 4-5 defenceman I would be happy with that. I just dont see him ever being anything more. Over 3 mill a year is insanity for him. Hopefully Kenny sees something in him that I don't! On the other hand I'm excited to see what Kronwall can do with his added responsibility now that Raffy is gone...

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 04:09 PM

I think it's too early to rule out him learning to play with more of an edge. I know he'll never be a Pronger or a Stevens, but he has shown glimpses of having toughness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uo5uAtYfg0

And we especially need more of this type of physicality, the Wings have had issues clearing the front of the net in recent years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMGx2O7tNE&feature=related

In the playoffs, the first round especially, I think Ericsson stepped up the physical play. But its like he forgets how big he is and constantly needs reminding to hit guys. He just doesn't have that natural instinct to want to put someone through the glass.

It's hard to keep all Joey's knockout fights straight but I'm almost certain I was at that game. Probert was the better overall fighter, but Kocur was a friggin madman, taking punches to the face until he could crush you with his right hand.

How many Games do you think kocur gets for the late punch now days? I say 3 and a small fine....If I didn't love the game so much I'd hate it.

I don't know if he would've for that particular fight, but he did make a habit of taking swings on the way down. He probably would've caught a suspension for it eventually.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 04:22 PM

Remember he also did this:

So, he just needs to play smart.

Yeah he made a goof of himself on that play but you can also look at it as a guy who was on a bad team and was trying to spark them by throwing a huge hit and taking a guys head off.

If he connects on that its lights out

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:03 PM

His career has been on the decline since his days in Carolina. Hopefully he can re-discover his solid defensive play and physical presence. He's not a great fighter, but he's definitely willing to throw 'em.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 07:38 PM

How many Games do you think kocur gets for the late punch now days? I say 3 and a small fine....If I didn't love the game so much I'd hate it.


Probably none. There doesn't seem to be much precedent for fining people for late punches (maybe my recent memory is off). It was a heat of the moment thing as well.

As for Ericsson, he's shown that he can hold his own in fights against good fighters (like Clowe) but he doesn't fight consistently. He hardly ever throws a bodycheck or clears anyone from the crease. He's just a lighter, better looking version of Uwe Krupp.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 05:20 AM

I think it's too early to rule out him learning to play with more of an edge. I know he'll never be a Pronger or a Stevens, but he has shown glimpses of having toughness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uo5uAtYfg0

And we especially need more of this type of physicality, the Wings have had issues clearing the front of the net in recent years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMGx2O7tNE&feature=related


man, i want ericsson to play more physical than he has as well, but those two examples are so lame (not blaming you, just jonathan).

he had to hit the first guy because he was in the way, and then he just nudges a guy 5 inches shorter than him to the ice.

i want to see some more nastiness around the crease.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 05:35 AM

here's another angle of the brian campbell hit:



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