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[Kira]

I agree with the parties above...this is not the time and place for a religious argument or anything remotely resembling one. This is a time for all of us to reminisce and to share our grief and condolences. By talking and sharing, we somehow lessen the burden we feel. But no religious arguments are needed here. Let us share our feelings and our grief in whatever manner we hope might lend some comfort.

[Z and D for the C]

Fact of the matter is that there's a team's worth of families missing fathers, husbands, sons, brothers. People are missing friends, teammates, lovers.

I agree completely. I feel the exact same way you do and I'm just as hollowed out as anyone on this board. Just because I'm offended by people forcing their own beliefs on everyone else means I'm a horrible person who doesn't care? I'm sure I'm going to get massively negged by this, but I want nothing more than people keeping their beliefs to themselves. I'm not the one who brought up my religious beliefs. I don't want to hear that 13GoWings40 believes in god any more than anyone wants to hear I don't. Just as you're all compelled to respond to me, I was compelled to respond to 13GoWings40. Don't get mad at me just because I don't believe in god.

And neither do I want to turn this into a religious debate. If you have something further to say to me, my PM box is always there. Let's end it there.

Edited by Z and D for the C, 07 September 2011 - 10:33 PM.

[Casey]

I agree with the parties above...this is not the time and place for a religious argument or anything remotely resembling one. This is a time for all of us to reminisce and to share our grief and condolences. By talking and sharing, we somehow lessen the burden we feel. But no religious arguments are needed here. Let us share our feelings and our grief in whatever manner we hope might lend some comfort.

You must have some Irish blood. That's how my family (at least my father's side) tends to handle things. We're formal and proper for the services, but afterwards, let the stories and draft flow.

[GoWings1905]

Completely stunning and tragic. Sometimes in life there are no words and this is one of them.

RIP McCrimmon, Salei, Liv, Demitra and everyone else. I wanna puke thinking about Rusty just having a kid.

[13GoWings40]

I agree completely. I feel the exact same way you do and I'm just as hollowed out as anyone on this board. Just because I'm offended by people forcing their own beliefs on everyone else means I'm a horrible person who doesn't care? I'm sure I'm going to get massively negged by this, but I want nothing more than people keeping their beliefs to themselves. I'm not the one who brought up my religious beliefs. I don't want to hear that 13GoWings40 believes in god any more than anyone wants to hear I don't. Just as you're all compelled to respond to me, I was compelled to respond to 13GoWings40. Don't get mad at me just because I don't believe in god.

And neither do I want to turn this into a religious debate. If you have something further to say to me, my PM box is always there. Let's end it there.

I did not mean to force any religious beliefs on anyone. I happen to not be overly religious, but I do believe in God and I felt this was an appropriate occasion to offer a prayer. I typed "protestant prayer for the dead" into google and "copy & pasted" the first quote that popped up. Again, I wasn't trying to force any beliefs on anyone, I just thought if there was anytime to pray, that time was now. I'm sorry if you took it as anything else.

Edit: On topic, what a horrible tragedy. Condolences to the family and friends of all onboard.

Edited by 13GoWings40, 07 September 2011 - 10:38 PM.

[dobbles]

dobbles I love your signature where did you get if I may ask. Also I would take a lost season any day then this s***ty offseason. I was just like a lot of people bitching about mccrimmon and said Salei we should let go, boy I would give all that back right now. It just goes to show you there is way more important stuff then sports. RIP all :'(

found it on another message board and snagged it.

[Red Wings Addict]

The music in the video isn't great but the moment was.

[winger30]

wow sad day in the hockey world indeed condolences to the families of the players and crews.

[R-Dizzle]

The music in the video isn't great but the moment was.

I was about to post that. Awesome, especially since it was a Shark fan.

Man, RIP

Edited by R-Dizzle, 07 September 2011 - 11:26 PM.

[brett]

horrible news

[Vladiator]

This has been an awful day for the hockey world. I'm still trying to let this all sink in. Hated reading through this thread from the start due to the conflicting reports about Rusty.

Prayers to all of the affected family and friends, and yes there are many to be said to many people. I find it ironic that training camp will be starting soon and hopefully that will help a lot of us get through the healing process as it did after 9/11.

And yes, everyone does mourn in their own way. So let’s just do that. No running satires about what we believe. Seriously folks, a lot of us lost some friends or people that we admired today. Let’s just try to remember them now.

Edited by Vladiator, 08 September 2011 - 12:27 AM.

[SuperNovaXll]

My god...

I was working all day today so I really didnt have much of a chance to check any hockey news till now, and this hits me right in the face...

I just cant believe this.

Im so sick of saying this, but RIP McCrimmon, Salei and all others on board the plane...

[fixxxer]

The music in the video isn't great but the moment was.

Thanks for the good laugh Especially in light of such horrid news.

RIP Lokomotiv and prayers to all of the family and friends involved.

[Nev]

Saw this on the news yesterday, that days tragedy in a world full of tragedys, and absently mindedly wondered if Pavel knew any of the players.

But to come on here and learn that McCrimmon, Salei, Liv, Demitra were on there.....suddenly it hits home. All the stories last year of Salei's pregnant wife in California....

[10 Minute Misconduct]

Karlis Skrastin's daughter, and wife in the background. His wife is said to be pregnant with their 3rd child.

Also, this is worth a read....
http://achicksperspective.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/reality-check/

R.I.P to everyone, especially the Red Wings involved.

[Detroit # 1 Fan]

The music in the video isn't great but the moment was.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=slLqLAlhEf0

That is fantastic. I'll tell you right now, if we had Beast in his prime on the defence this past playoffs no way San Jose beats us. Anyone who read Mark Howes interview would realize the impact Brad had on hockey as a player. Sure I didn't believe he was the greatest coach out there, but he was on his way to showing us all whether or not Beast was a worthy HC. Now, he won't ever get the chance. Still late in the night, into the morning, I feel just awful. These were wonderful men living there dreams of playing hockey for profession and now we have to mourn there loses for the rest of the season and beyond. I know one thing, the Red Wings are gonna be pretty goddamn motivated for the upcoming season. The last time a tragedy struck this team so close to the heart.. well we all know the final result the June that followed.

[LeftWinger]

The music in the video isn't great but the moment was.

That is it!

This is how we celebrate the man. Who cares what people believe, whether there is a Heaven or whether there is not. We measure men on what they brought to (and left behind) this world. Brad McCrimmmon 1959-2011. My personal philosophy is, it's not the numbers or the dates on that statement, 1959 or 2011, the most important part is the dash in between. The dash in between represents the life you lived, the people you've touched, the things you did to better this world and leave a mark before you depart. Brad McCrimmon brought joy to his family, helped a city feel the joy of becoming a Champion, he taught many young players how to play the game, he left a permanent imprint on the greatest game on Earth. Brad McCrimmon made my life better by being an NHL player, he made the NHL better by his contributions on and off the ice. He made his family's life better by being a man of honor and doing what he thought he had to do to better his family's future. He gave his life pursuing that dream that most of us are too afraid or too busy to attempt. He left this Earth way too early, but he left this Earth being what he was meant to be. He left this Earth, completing his Dash, his name will live on, his honor will live on. It's how you live your Dash is what is important. You could live 20 years or 100 years, if you lived your Dash in a way where people loved you, remember you, if the world is a better place because of you and if the life you lived touched someone, somewhere at sometime, then you lived your Dash, you completed your goals, you have realized the meaning of life...Life...

[13GoWings40]

http://sports.yahoo....p-atragicsummer

A decent article that sums up what most of us on here have to be thinking.

[Gizmo]

Karlis Skrastin's daughter, and wife in the background. His wife is said to be pregnant with their 3rd child.

Also, this is worth a read....
http://achicksperspective.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/reality-check/

R.I.P to everyone, especially the Red Wings involved.

Wow.... just wow...

[RedArmy]

only decent news out of it is a youth player Maksim Zuzakin was told to stay back to help the youth team and not travel with Lokomotiv... he survived....