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#1 BigTex

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:19 PM

I know it's early in the preseason, but looking at where Homer has been placed it's obvious he's going to be a 4th liner/power play guy if he makes the team. I haven't heard much about him, good or bad.

I'm looking for info from anyone who has seen him play this year, how has he looked so far?

Do the Wings maybe send him down to GR to start the season to avoid losing one of the younger guys? Babs said the best players would make the team, so far he might be getting outplayed and not make the top group of forwards. Not sure, just wanting opinions on what's been seen so far.
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:27 PM

No chance ever.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:30 PM

Yeah...no.

Not going to happen.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:41 PM

Can't see that happening. No matter how slow and injured he's been he still scored almost 20 goals last season. These kids and tryouts (Emmerton, Miller, Conner, Brunnström, Johnson...) might be good players, but what Holmström brings to the team is special. Besides this there's also the fact that the organization is also very loyal to veterans who've spent their careers with the team.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 05:28 PM

Plus there's no way they don't lose him on waivers if they do try to send him down.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 05:42 PM

You can send anyone down before the season starts

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 05:47 PM

Ain't gonna happen.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 05:56 PM

This is very possibly the single most ridiculous thread I have ever read on LGW and that's some steep competition...

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:16 PM

No.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:24 PM

If anything, I think he will spend some time on the IR instead. Maybe surgery if he really plays like s***.

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#11 hillbillywingsfan

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:37 PM

This is very possibly the single most ridiculous thread I have ever read on LGW and that's some steep competition...

Nah big tex is a good dude. Let's just scratch it up to this damn texas heat me and him and others on here have had to endure. :thumbup: :D

Edited by hillbillywingsfan, 20 September 2011 - 06:37 PM.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:53 PM

You can send anyone down before the season starts

but then bringing them back up would be an issue still?

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:13 PM

You can send anyone down before the season starts

If teams could do that with players under contract that would be a HUGE loophole, so no it doesn't work like that. Any waiver eligible player has to go through that system to be loaned to the AHL i.e. any player that has a contract with the Wings organization, from an entry level contract like Mursak & Emmerton all the way to someone like Homer. If a player is not under contract with an NHL club but is on a prospect invite to training camp, they of course can be sent back to their junior club at any time. A contract with the big club though means you have to be waived to move off of it & that can only be done during the waiver period which is defined as starting 12 days before the start of the season & ends one day after a team's season ends according to the CBA.

For younger players like Mursak & Emmerton, they may be waiver exempt depending on at what age they signed their entry level contract and/or games played at the NHL level but once their exemption is up, they have to go through the waiver process to be sent i.e. loaned to an AHL affiliate. Mursak & Emmerton are out of waiver exemptions meaning they would have to go through waivers to be sent to Grand Rapids & that can only happen once the waiver period begins which is 9/25 this year I believe. If a team could simply send any player signed to a contract down to the AHL prior to the season, or prior to the waiver period more like it, Kenny would send Emmerton down to Grand Rapids before this Sunday & would be in no danger of losing him at all. By the same token, he would have done the same thing with Ritola previously. Can't be done though according to the CBA. So yeah, if the Wings wanted to send Homer to Grand Rapids to start the season, odds are a team with the cap space & looking for a final and unique piece to round out their team would certainly pick him up.

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Edited by ogreslayer, 20 September 2011 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:30 PM

This is very possibly the single most ridiculous thread I have ever read on LGW and that's some steep competition...


I've seen much worse.

Also, there was that "Trade Datsyuk" thread that I never got around to starting.
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:42 PM

Maybe it's Homer that gets sent down?

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:46 PM

:blink:

Uh, he is pretty much the best at what he does, not many people can play in front of the net like him. He wouldn't last one second on waiver's...

IMO the only guy in danger is Emmerton if Brunnstrom/Conner/Johnson outshine him. Still not sure Holland would expose Emmerton to waivers, unless he stinks up the ice. There is always a trade of assets to open a roster spot, but even that is limited to just a couple players. And we all know how much "potential" is there... :ninja:


Speaking of waivers and trades (sorry didn't want to start a thread on this) who gets waived or traded out of Buffalo and Washington? Buffalo is currently over $3M over the cap and Washington is just under $900,000 over the cap... Some interesting moves are about to happen...

Edited by LeftWinger, 20 September 2011 - 07:56 PM.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:06 PM

I think you answered your own question in the original post: Homer is essentially a PP specialist at this point with probably minimal time at even strength. Still a valuable asset to the team, but he clearly shouldn't be playing top six minutes anymore especially with the Red Wings having other stronger options.

No way Holmstrom gets sent down though. He still has an important role to fill on the team.
 
 
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 09:25 PM

Nah big tex is a good dude. Let's just scratch it up to this damn texas heat me and him and others on here have had to endure. :thumbup: :D

I wasn't saying anything negative about him personally... but this particular thread... I'm sure even he, in retrospect, realizes how ridiculous it is :)

If teams could do that with players under contract that would be a HUGE loophole, so no it doesn't work like that. Any waiver eligible player has to go through that system to be loaned to the AHL i.e. any player that has a contract with the Wings organization, from an entry level contract like Mursak & Emmerton all the way to someone like Homer. If a player is not under contract with an NHL club but is on a prospect invite to training camp, they of course can be sent back to their junior club at any time. A contract with the big club though means you have to be waived to move off of it & that can only be done during the waiver period which is defined as starting 12 days before the start of the season & ends one day after a team's season ends according to the CBA.

For younger players like Mursak & Emmerton, they may be waiver exempt depending on at what age they signed their entry level contract and/or games played at the NHL level but once their exemption is up, they have to go through the waiver process to be sent i.e. loaned to an AHL affiliate. Mursak & Emmerton are out of waiver exemptions meaning they would have to go through waivers to be sent to Grand Rapids & that can only happen once the waiver period begins which is 9/25 this year I believe. If a team could simply send any player signed to a contract down to the AHL prior to the season, or prior to the waiver period more like it, Kenny would send Emmerton down to Grand Rapids before this Sunday & would be in no danger of losing him at all. By the same token, he would have done the same thing with Ritola previously. Can't be done though according to the CBA. So yeah, if the Wings wanted to send Homer to Grand Rapids to start the season, odds are a team with the cap space & looking for a final and unique piece to round out their team would certainly pick him up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg

Thank you! You summed up what I was going to say, in a clearer way than I could have thought to explain it as well! :thumbup:

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


#19 hillbillywingsfan

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 10:17 PM

I wasn't saying anything negative about him personally... but this particular thread... I'm sure even he, in retrospect, realizes how ridiculous it is :)



Oh I know for sure. I was just trying to come up with an excuse...we Texas folk have to stick together...hahah
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#20 sean

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:32 AM

texas: the usa of the usa
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