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#41 Bring Back The Bruise Bros

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:29 AM

He'll get suspended. Leaned in and shouldered the guy to the head away from the play.

When Neil hit him, Grabovski was facing him. No blindside or hit from behind. I think a minor for interference is enough.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:48 AM

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 11:32 AM

When Neil hit him, Grabovski was facing him. No blindside or hit from behind. I think a minor for interference is enough.

You might want to brush up on the rules.

Edit...sorry, this is not to say that Neil will be suspended, but if he isn't, it won't be because Grabovski was facing him and it wasn't blindside or from behind.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:04 PM

I didn't see the hit, but if there was contact to the head... then I suspect he gets a suspension.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:05 PM

When Neil hit him, Grabovski was facing him. No blindside or hit from behind. I think a minor for interference is enough.


I never sad blindside, but it was a clear hit to the head and it looks intentional, plus isn't there a rule that if you interfere with someone and it causes injury it's an automatic game misconduct and one game suspension? So in essence you agree with me since you feel an interference called could be made :P
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:06 PM

Shanny will be the most hated man in hockey by Halloween.

The suspensions he has handed out so far were for the hits we're looking to get rid of. I haven't had a problem with any of the suspensions, yet. A little harsh? Yeah, but he's trying to make a statement. If Neil is suspended for this, wow..
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:07 PM

I never sad blindside, but it was a clear hit to the head and it looks intentional, plus isn't there a rule that if you interfere with someone and it causes injury it's an automatic game misconduct and one game suspension? So in essence you agree with me since you feel an interference called could be made :P

No injury though.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:10 PM

I never sad blindside, but it was a clear hit to the head and it looks intentional, plus isn't there a rule that if you interfere with someone and it causes injury it's an automatic game misconduct and one game suspension? So in essence you agree with me since you feel an interference called could be made :P

In essence, yes :P I feel a minor penalty is enough, though. It's not like Neil rushed down ice and cranked him. Was it intentional? Absolutely, but Grabovski returned soon after that. I just don't wanna see this get out of control, where we see every little incident suspended.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 03:27 PM

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 03:27 PM

Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere but it appears there will be no suspension for Neil....

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 03:47 PM

Good on the Neil thing. I'm surprised how quick people are to want to bring down the suspension hammer for s*** that isn't blatantly a dirty hit at all.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:33 PM

Here's what worries me the most about these suspensions. Guys are going to realize quickly that the easiest way to avoid suspension is to avoid the hit entirely. Guys will be afraid to accidentally hit someone illegally, whether their intentions were legal or not. Therein lies the problem because I don't want hitting out of hockey.

Fourth liners and enforcers are guys who play on the edge a lot. Their job is to come out there and spark their team with big hits and aggression.

It's difficult to have that mindset but at the same time not go over the edge occasionally and do something stupid. Especially when we're talking about split second decisions.

I have no problem with these suspensions, but I can understand how a lot of grinders and checkers in the NHL may be worried about their roles now. This doesn't really affect the star players for the most part, but it gives the other guys a lot to mull over.

I just hope the NHL doesn't turn into a sissy league where hitting is greatly diminished.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 05:59 PM

Shanny will be the most hated man in hockey by Halloween.


You're probably right, but I'd rather he be hated because he's doing his job, than hated because he's not. The last person to be in charge of doling out suspensions/punishments did a piss-poor job of it. At this juncture, anything more than piss-poor is a step in the right direction.

What will be telling is if he doles out any punishments to a Wings player on par with what he doles out to players from other teams. If they're comparable, he shouldn't get lambasted by anyone.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:06 PM

You're probably right, but I'd rather he be hated because he's doing his job, than hated because he's not. The last person to be in charge of doling out suspensions/punishments did a piss-poor job of it. At this juncture, anything more than piss-poor is a step in the right direction.

What will be telling is if he doles out any punishments to a Wings player on par with what he doles out to players from other teams. If they're comparable, he shouldn't get lambasted by anyone.

yea, but hes gunna over do it, kinda hypocritical if u ask me. He would have gotten suspended more than he did, if they were trying to *****-up the game like they are now, in his prime.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:17 PM

Here's what worries me the most about these suspensions. Guys are going to realize quickly that the easiest way to avoid suspension is to avoid the hit entirely. Guys will be afraid to accidentally hit someone illegally, whether their intentions were legal or not. Therein lies the problem because I don't want hitting out of hockey.

Fourth liners and enforcers are guys who play on the edge a lot. Their job is to come out there and spark their team with big hits and aggression.

It's difficult to have that mindset but at the same time not go over the edge occasionally and do something stupid. Especially when we're talking about split second decisions.

I have no problem with these suspensions, but I can understand how a lot of grinders and checkers in the NHL may be worried about their roles now. This doesn't really affect the star players for the most part, but it gives the other guys a lot to mull over.

I just hope the NHL doesn't turn into a sissy league where hitting is greatly diminished.


I don't think there are many who want to watch hockey with no hitting. You are not the only one who's scared about this. It's just that these new rules are there for a reason. All these plays that have lead to suspensions were dangerous with a high risk of causing an injury.

Just like all players have to hone and update all their skills with developing game and new rules, the grinders have to learn how to check with less risk to injure the opponent. I guess in few years there's a bigger need for more "smart" Helm-like grinders while teams don't want to have any "dumb" and reckless ones anymore. Players like Helm, Draper and Eaves can create energy without injuring anyone.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:23 PM

yea, but hes gunna over do it, kinda hypocritical if u ask me. He would have gotten suspended more than he did, if they were trying to *****-up the game like they are now, in his prime.


He's going to "over do it" in what way? Are you suggesting he'll punish Wings players more harshly to avoid any inference of impropriety? I'm not sure I follow where you're walking, here.

The fact that the way the rules are being enforced now would have put him on the hot seat more often as a player has nothing to do with his ability to do his job.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:29 PM

Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere but it appears there will be no suspension for Neil....

http://www.tsn.ca/nh...975#YourCallTop

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 07:06 PM

yea, but hes gunna over do it, kinda hypocritical if u ask me. He would have gotten suspended more than he did, if they were trying to *****-up the game like they are now, in his prime.


You can't compare eras. back when he played, even though it wasn't that long ago, concussions and the effects on the brain were a relative unknown. Once these players understand there are consequences for their illegal actions, the suspensions will go down.

You can still blast a guy in the chest or stand up a player in open ice, you just can't sucker punch players or hit them in the head. I don't see how that is pussyfying the game. There's clearly something else going on with you that you aren't talking about which is making you grumpy about all this. Even goon lovers understand that hitting to the head shouldn't be in the game, so what's your real issue?
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 09:45 PM

Havn't seen video yet, but appears Brendan Smith may be next - Dreger and McKenzie both tweeting about a nasty shoulder to head or Chicago's Ben Smith. Possible Ben may have moved at last second causing the incident.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:08 PM

Havn't seen video yet, but appears Brendan Smith may be next - Dreger and McKenzie both tweeting about a nasty shoulder to head or Chicago's Ben Smith. Possible Ben may have moved at last second causing the incident.


I was watching, the hit was all head, but Ben Smith was clearly trying to evade Brendan Smith and do a toe-drag move, he just went low and changed direction so Brendan's shoulder caught him across the face. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a suspension, but I don't think he targeted the head, just one of those things that happens when a player is trying to avoid a hit and by doing so makes himself vulnerable.

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