Diving

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

I think I heard this correctly earlier this week; please feel free to sue me if it's incorrect.

As "flopping" is in season now more than ever, the NBA is considering the following: the owness will be placed directly on the shoulders of the referees. If obvious cases are not called, the Association will begin to fine the referees for "not doing their job".

The NBA might either want to rethink this proposal or wait until negotiations for a new contract with the referees.

[hockeysattva 8]

I realize you've pulled up an old thread for a new post, and might suggest you just start a new thread...

I think Basketball is a different can of worms, but it is thought provoking none-the-less. I disagree with the idea of fining refs. either you trust they are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities, or you find someone else. Refs aren't paid enough to be fined anyway, at least not in our league.

Mis dos centavos.

[Rhah 195]

I guess since this happened I have seen at least one dive called unsportsmanlike, however, even though he got called for embellishment, the first guy still got a penalty. So, where is the disadvantage to the guy diving? None. He either gets matching minors or a PP. Win/win. If a guy gets called for embellishment it should be a no-brainer logic that only one guy goes to the box and its not the person who initiated the check.

Can't ever count on the NHL league office or refs to be logical though.

PS - I don't mind the thread necro if the topic is still relevant.

[amato 3,210]

lol really semin?

elbow/forearm hits him in the chest/shoulder and semin jumps after contact.... also, the left side of his body gets hit and somehow he spins right.

then stays down to make sure the hawks get penalized as much as possible before getting up completely fine and on his own. and he's out the very next shift. ridiculous.

[stallion 17]

I think I heard this correctly earlier this week; please feel free to sue me if it's incorrect.

As "flopping" is in season now more than ever, the NBA is considering the following: the owness will be placed directly on the shoulders of the referees. If obvious cases are not called, the Association will begin to fine the referees for "not doing their job".

The NBA might either want to rethink this proposal or wait until negotiations for a new contract with the referees.

Dude. I'm all for imperfect spelling and grammar on the internets, but this one hurt me right in the feels. Yowza.

It's spelled ONUS. A letter away from ANUS, which is what I'm being with this post.

[SidAbelsSon 50]

Start making the calls for diving a double minor. That way the penalties do not offset if a player is stupid enough to dive. Just gotta get the Refs to call them though.

[Resetti 44]

While putting the onus on the referee may work in basketball to minimize flopping, hockey is just too fast of a sport. There's so much going on as it is that you can't add to that "judging acting skills" to the job requirement. The way to legislate diving out of the sport is to have supplemental discipline in the form of heavy-handed suspensions against players diving. It isn't worth diving to get one power play in a game if it means you sit the next 5 or so games.

It has to be heavy punishment in order to make it clear to players that it's not worth the gamble. Give refs the power to call just dives, if there's an obvious one, but the league office has to take care of this in order to clean up the game. The refs already have enough to worry about.

[RyanBarnes! 293]

The NHL should be able to review dives and suspend after the fact, just like they do with hits. Dive equals one game suspension and repeat offenders get three games automatically.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

The number of embellishment (diving) calls on each team since the 2010-11 season

This website is source

Montreal: 23
Pittsburgh: 22
Nashville: 20
Boston: 19
Arizona: 17
Carolina: 17
Edmonton: 17
Tampa Bay: 17
Calgary: 14
New Jersey: 13
Philadelphia: 13
Minnesota: 13
Florida: 13
Anaheim: 12
Dallas: 12
Detroit: 12
St. Louis: 12
Vancouver: 12
Washington: 12
Ottawa: 11
New York Islanders: 10
Chicago: 10
Toronto: 9
San Jose: 9
New York Rangers: 9
Winnipeg: 8
Los Angeles: 7
Colorado: 7
Buffalo: 6
Columbus: 6
Vegas: 1

Red Wings culprits:

Abdelkader: 3
Athanasiou: 2
Vanek: 1
Smith: 1
Nyquist: 1
Green: 1
Lashoff: 1
Helm: 1
Hudler: 1

EDIT: I believe Nyquist and Pulkinnen were also fined for diving once each, but there was no call on the ice in those incidents so those didn't land on my list.


 

Edited August 23, 2018 by ChristopherReevesLegs

[F.Michael 4,590]

On 10/3/2011 at 7:12 PM, F.Michael said:

What ever became of the NHL that I "grew up" with?

Back then it was embarassing to do what we see in todays game - embellishment...There was a time when you "took a number" of the opposition...Todays NHL it's all about looking over at the refs, and plead your case as though he were a wide receiver in the NFL.

{copy/pasted from another thread}

I love these resurrected threads...Mackez mee luk soo smurt 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

 

[AtlantaHotWings 984]

9 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

 

a classic probably better than some of Peter the Great's dives

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

13 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

a classic probably better than some of Peter the Great's dives

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/607880-top-5-sidney-crosby-dives#slide5

[Hockeymom1960 5,107]

My favorite

 

[TheXym 2,606]

I remember that Thornton dive all too well.   There was a gif made of it that gave Franzen a lightsaber.

Here is a link 

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/nZtLjRy

Edited August 25, 2018 by TheXym

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

1 minute ago, TheXym said:

I remember that Thornton dive all too well.   There was a gif made of it that gave Franzen a lightsaber.

[TheXym 2,606]

Just now, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Thanks.   My phone sucks at pasting gifs

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

5 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Hilarious. Jumbo Joe dove harder than the Red October there.