Vladifan 680 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 I haven't been able to watch much of the pre-season, but when I did, Hudler did not look all that good. I'm not trying to start something. I'm mainly curious as to what I've missed, both good and bad, as far as he's concerned. And if it's bad, what are the contract-type chances he can be removed or set aside for someone better to come in? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Dude. With this thread, you might as well have put out a bat signal for Eva. 3 Shaman, NeverForgetMac25 and Jenny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 This is such a lightning rod on this board, I don't even want to touch it... but here's my HONEST evaluation, un-biased as possible on all levels He looked stronger and faster than years past and looked pretty hungry out there, however, he wasn't able to convert much and had very little consistency in the area of linemates... All and all, I was actually pretty impressed with his play in the preseason, all stats aside... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LidstromIsASuperhero 29 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 If thats the case, and he is stronger and faster, how long do you think the wings brass gives him to start producing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Still lazy. Still sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 I remember thinking last preseason he looked faster than usual too but it didnt end up being like that. There was a quote about Babcock saying if he continues playing that good than he will be on the team and I also think it said something about his stay in the AHL will be short. I kind of took that as we'll see how Hudler does on a scoring line, if he plays like last year and Nyquist continues playing well than Hudler will be traded and Nyquist put on the team. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 There was a quote about Babcock saying if he continues playing that good than he will be on the team and I also think it said something about his stay in the AHL will be short. Whaaa??? Eva's head just exploded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Whaaa??? Eva's head just exploded. That quote was about Nyquist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 I predict a turnaround for hudler 2 SaCkaveli20 and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) From what I saw, he looked horrible. I think every single pass of his on Sunday's game was a turnover. Maybe he is just trying to hard, but he got nothing done. Completely unimpressed. Edited October 5, 2011 by Z and D for the C 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 From what I saw, he looked horrible. I think every single pass of his on Sunday's game was a turnover. Maybe he is just trying to hard, but he got nothing done. Completely unimpressed. How about Filppula? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted October 5, 2011 My guess is he'll have a career year. Yes, I really do believe that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Fixed. Nah, I am giving him his fair chance. Maybe he turns it around. Good Luck to you he that shall not be named! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 He had one bad season, awful season. Give him the benefit of the doubt, its a new season, if he does s***ty the first month, then u can rip him all u want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 I have been pretty vocal in the past about his disappointments last season. But, honestly, I kind of liked what I saw from Hudler this preseason. He was skating much harder, was doing a better job holding on to the puck, and made a few sweet passes that I saw. He didn't dazzle or light it up offensively, but he looked like he was working hard. I really hope it works out for him this season, to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingZNut13 99 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 He had one bad season, awful season. Give him the benefit of the doubt, its a new season, if he does s***ty the first month, then u can rip him all u want. He did have a God awful season. I hope he comes out and just has a great season but only time will tell. I hope he performs well, better for the team. And when he does perform well.....that's would give us more leverage when we try to trade him at the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 His off season training was no joke. Maybe we'll see him do this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omGWjiwxcTE But it's probably more likely he'll try this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks, troops. I watched him for a few plays in Sunday's game and that was about it; but it sounds like overall there's still hope for him. And that's a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 I was as dissatisfied as anyone with him after last year, but it sounds like he really busted his ass this summer. I don't think Babcock would defend him at this point after last year if he didn't believe that Hudler's putting in a hell of a lot of hard work off the ice to improve on his weaknesses. So pre-season aside, I'm more than willing to give him a fair chance this year. I'm very open-minded and I'd love to see him succeed. However, at this point, I couldn't begin to guess which way it'll go. I don't think we'll know until late-November or December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted October 6, 2011 Fixed. How about Filppula? I see what you did there. And I highly approve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted October 6, 2011 In all honesty, and I know EVERYONE knows how I have been towards him, but really, if he can find consistency on Datsyuk's wing and become the player is he supposed to be, I will be very happy. So raise your glass to him being on Datsyuk's wing and scoring 30+ goals! (that just means Holland will have to pay him more as a UFA...) but if he is worth it, he is worth it. Good Luck Jiri! Hudler - Datsyuk - Franzen ...I am on board for him to excel! (I am saying this now, so when and if he does start scoring, it doesn't look like I am jumping on a bandwagon.) 1 Vladifan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) I figured we should just have a thread for this because it comes up in every other thread at least once. A strong start for Hudler, and Mursak a few weeks away... How much does he have to do to make him a valuable trading commodity? EDIT: Alright I am done, there is no reason for a negative 12 for simply making a placeholder for the conversation we always have. It was done so every other thread doesn't turn into it. So go ahead delete it whatever. I don't care, I don't much care for online hate. Got like plus three for running a draft thread that took my entire evening and get a negative 12 for a post to try and keep other threads clean. I am sick of anonymous internet hate. Edited October 12, 2011 by Majsheppard 12 number9, Hockeymom1960, ogreslayer and 9 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Off the Post 11 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 2 games in... 6 Namingway, sleepwalker, 13dangledangle and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dats13owns 157 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 It's only two game into the season. He's had a decent two games. Let everyone mesh some more for a minute before the trade talks. If he continues to play well, he will be an asset that the Wings should ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 And people still don't understand. Hudler isn't a tradeable asset regardless of how he's playing. 90 points or 10 points. Why? Because what the team gets back for him if he can be traded for something good will never match up to what he is bringing the team. If he's playing poorly, he's not going to bring back anything of value at all; perhaps just a minor leaguer the team would waive and then lose via UFA (think Tollefson) or something. Filppula is more likely to be traded, and even then in no case is Flip going to be shopped unless he looks like he is going to lose his position in the top six to Helm. It's not likely he'll be traded unless the Wings get a great return on the deal. 3 ricky0034, Drake_Marcus and Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
