Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Hockeyfights.com, a paradise for enforcer-slappies like myself, is reporting the NHL saw 72 fights (Fight is characterized by an altercation in which at least 1 of the 2 players gets a fighting major) in 108 pre-season games, the lowest in over a decade. According to the site: *The 2010-2011 pre-season saw 115 fights in 106 games. *The 2009-2010 pre-season saw 164 fights in 109 games. * The 2008-2009 pre-season saw 151 fights in 111 games. Are we seeing the effects of the deaths of Boogaard, Rypien, and Belak over the summer? Are guys more cautious about fighting? Or could it be the suspensions of a lot of "enforcers" like Shelley, Leblond, and Staubitz in the pre-season that dropped the numbers so significantly? Will these numbers translate into the regular season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Meh, doesn't matter to me. Maybe less fighters are playing and that's why the numbers are down. They could be higher or lower, still won't matter to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 This stat is 100% attributed to Lilja's concussion... 3 Frozen-Man, number9 and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 This stat is 100% attributed to Lilja's concussion... WEBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 About this matter... I'm letting this cat to inform you my opinion on my behalf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 newfy DON'T DO IT 1 redwings4life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) . Edited October 14, 2016 by WorkingOvertime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Hockeyfights.com, a paradise for enforcer-slappies like myself, is reporting the NHL saw 72 fights (Fight is characterized by an altercation in which at least 1 of the 2 players gets a fighting major) in 108 pre-season games, the lowest in over a decade. According to the site: *The 2010-2011 pre-season saw 115 fights in 106 games. *The 2009-2010 pre-season saw 164 fights in 109 games. * The 2008-2009 pre-season saw 151 fights in 111 games. Are we seeing the effects of the deaths of Boogaard, Rypien, and Belak over the summer? Are guys more cautious about fighting? Or could it be the suspensions of a lot of "enforcers" like Shelley, Leblond, and Staubitz in the pre-season that dropped the numbers so significantly? Will these numbers translate into the regular season? TBH I really think the guys in the NHL who are likely to fight have the deaths of Boo, Rypien and Belak in the back of their minds. All those guys died way too young. I'm not saying fighting has to go-- I'm saying this summer's been pretty damn tragic for our sport and people are very aware of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Those are strange stats. Fighting was at its lowest around 2005-2007 if I'm not mistaken. It went up since then. We'll see what the trend is this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBengals 27 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 TBH I really think the guys in the NHL who are likely to fight have the deaths of Boo, Rypien and Belak in the back of their minds. All those guys died way too young. I'm not saying fighting has to go-- I'm saying this summer's been pretty damn tragic for our sport and people are very aware of it. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/836560-wade-belaks-death-is-no-reason-to-stop-fighting-in-nhl A pretty good viewpoint on the issue, I thought I'd share. I'm not saying the death's aren't tragic but blaming it on fighting is a bit much. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weGotTheCup89 41 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 Hockeyfights.com, a paradise for enforcer-slappies like myself, is reporting the NHL saw 72 fights (Fight is characterized by an altercation in which at least 1 of the 2 players gets a fighting major) in 108 pre-season games, the lowest in over a decade. According to the site: *The 2010-2011 pre-season saw 115 fights in 106 games. *The 2009-2010 pre-season saw 164 fights in 109 games. * The 2008-2009 pre-season saw 151 fights in 111 games. Are we seeing the effects of the deaths of Boogaard, Rypien, and Belak over the summer? Are guys more cautious about fighting? Or could it be the suspensions of a lot of "enforcers" like Shelley, Leblond, and Staubitz in the pre-season that dropped the numbers so significantly? Will these numbers translate into the regular season? Honestly, we probably would've seen 49 more fights if there would've been 3 more preseason games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted October 8, 2011 WEBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Fast forward to about 5:50. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZLyx4Gazl4 1 sputman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 the more fights the better. 3 number9, newfy and GMRwings1983 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 the more fights the better. Not to me, I'd rather not see players die young and would rather see the game of hockey played with skill and toughness that is tied to the actual game and not just punches. 2 Z and D for the C and Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDangles122 16 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 For some crazy reason I read the title as 'Red Wings funding lowest in more than a decade" I panicked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Fast forward to about 5:50. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZLyx4Gazl4 haha, perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyrme19 73 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Not to me, I'd rather not see players die young and would rather see the game of hockey played with skill and toughness that is tied to the actual game and not just punches. I mean, are you serious? You do know that hockey has seen fighting since the birth of its existence, right? It IS the game. Besides, whether there is fighting or not, there will always be 20 minutes of game time where the puck is in play so you don't have to worry. You know that fighting has nothing to do with these players deaths, right? I mean, you know that fighting has existed in hockey for more than 5 years ago and that there haven't been any issues like this before? But then maybe you'll site Proberts premature death. But then i'll just retort with his destructive life style and cocain addiction - so don't bother. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 I mean, are you serious? You do know that hockey has seen fighting since the birth of its existence, right? It IS the game. Besides, whether there is fighting or not, there will always be 20 minutes of game time where the puck is in play so you don't have to worry. You know that fighting has nothing to do with these players deaths, right? I mean, you know that fighting has existed in hockey for more than 5 years ago and that there haven't been any issues like this before? But then maybe you'll site Proberts premature death. But then i'll just retort with his destructive life style and cocain addiction - so don't bother. Enforcers are a different breed, they have a much tougher NHL career which really hurts their psyche. They are always on the edge of being on the time, they have to hide concussions so they can remain on the team. Another major factor in this is the pain pills. Narcotic painkillers, in their lowest dose form, barely touch a bigger man. A five milligram Vicodin (hydrocodone/acetaminophen) is basically Advil to some hockey players. And that's how it starts. These guys put their faces, knuckles and more on the line almost every game, and because of that, they experience higher highs and lower lows than most players. That's their life, and it pushes them to need relief more than others. I don't know, I just don't think it's a huge coincidence that we lost 3 young hockey players in a couple months, and they all had a similar role and shared a certain play style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Enforcers are a different breed, they have a much tougher NHL career which really hurts their psyche. They are always on the edge of being on the time, they have to hide concussions so they can remain on the team. Another major factor in this is the pain pills. Narcotic painkillers, in their lowest dose form, barely touch a bigger man. A five milligram Vicodin (hydrocodone/acetaminophen) is basically Advil to some hockey players. And that's how it starts. These guys put their faces, knuckles and more on the line almost every game, and because of that, they experience higher highs and lower lows than most players. That's their life, and it pushes them to need relief more than others. I don't know, I just don't think it's a huge coincidence that we lost 3 young hockey players in a couple months, and they all had a similar role and shared a certain play style. Yup it was fighting, not the death of a nephew causing severe depression, an accidental overdose on painkillers or a cocaine addicted lifestyle that did these guys in young 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Yup it was fighting, not the death of a nephew causing severe depression, an accidental overdose on painkillers or a cocaine addicted lifestyle that did these guys in young Enforcers seems to have an affinity for these lifestyles more than other hockey players. Ferdoruk believes most NHL enforcers have issues off the ice. Mental things that drag them down.He says most enforcers are never really secure in their role or with their team and are always wondering whether they “fit.” That’s their common bond, he said. “It seems more and more, the guys who are demon fighters are the ones who play this role,” he said. “I don’t know if this goes hand-in-hand or you have to be a little crazy to do what we do. It’s a price you pay.” http://www.csnphilly.com/08/31/11/Former-Flyer-Fedoruk-battles-demons-to-g/news%5Fflyers.html?blockID=556996&feedID=704 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) . Edited October 14, 2016 by WorkingOvertime 2 55fan and martyrme19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Enforcers seems to have an affinity for these lifestyles more than other hockey players. http://www.csnphilly.com/08/31/11/Former-Flyer-Fedoruk-battles-demons-to-g/news%5Fflyers.html?blockID=556996&feedID=704 Yeah to grow up playing a style of game like that youve probably got s*** going on in your life that messeswith you a bit. Theo Fleury is an example of a rough player who had demons that he took out on people on the ice. For all you know fighting helps keep these guys stable by getting out some of their problems. Probie was drinking 12 beers a night by 17, and thats before he took much head trauma from fighting... So how did fighting cause that? 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey Convert 55 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 Probie was drinking 12 beers a night by 17, and thats before he took much head trauma from fighting... So how did fighting cause that? Fighting in hockey causes tooth decay, male pattern baldness, global warming, and communism. True story. Oh, also, on LGW correlation always equals causation. Where there's smoke, there's fire, and certainly not a couple anti-fire posters holding a smoke machine! 1 martyrme19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 Fighting in hockey causes tooth decay, male pattern baldness, global warming, and communism. True story. Oh, also, on LGW correlation always equals causation. Where there's smoke, there's fire, and certainly not a couple anti-fire posters holding a smoke machine! I knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Fighting in hockey causes tooth decay, male pattern baldness, global warming, and communism. True story. Oh, also, on LGW correlation always equals causation. Where there's smoke, there's fire, and certainly not a couple anti-fire posters holding a smoke machine! You failed to mention that it causes arson, public executions, gun control, and animal abuse, as well. Seems players are finally realizing the consequences of these silly punch in the face contests. Edited October 10, 2011 by Bring Back The Bruise Bros Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
