Guest blueadams Report post Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Due to popular demand here on the board...I'm starting one official 'blueadams lines thread,' and I'm going to update it throughout the season (as opposed to starting 50+ different lines threads). Real Lineup: Franzen-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Hudler-Zetterberg-Filppula Miller-Helm-Cleary Holmstrom-Abdelkader-Emmerton/Eaves/Mursak Lidstrom-White Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Commodore/Kindl Howard Conklin Blueadams' Dream Lineup: Filppula-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Hudler-Zetterberg-Franzen Miller-Helm-Cleary Mursak-Abdelkader-Holmstrom Emmerton *Eaves Lidstrom-White Kronwall-Stuart Smith-Ericsson Kindl Commodore Howard Conklin ...Nothing too drastic. 1) I think Flip is better with Pav, and I think Mule is better with Hank, so I switched those two. 2) Brendan Smith is so much better than Kindl and Commie...come on. Edited January 14, 2012 by blueadams 10 crotty99, stevieisthebest, 55fan and 7 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,951 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Popular demand? just kidding... Anyhow, I like line combo talk, but in reference to your lines that you want to see this year. Neither Commodore or Emmerton will be in GRR anytime soon, if at all, especially while Smith and Nyquist are waiver exempt, so just keep the dream. I do like Filppula with Datsyuk. Edited October 9, 2011 by LeftWinger 1 Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 My lines in NHL 12 Franzen - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Cleary Hudler - Filppula - Abdelkader Eaves - Helm - McGrattan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/70626-messing-with-the-lines-already/page__pid__2213663#entry2213663 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Here we go again. Why would commie go to GR ? He played one of the best defensemen in the pre-season and was clearing people from the front of the net, and they wouldn't have even signed him if he was going there in the first place ? I take it you haven't watched a single game this season also, Helm, Abs and Bert have been phenominal together, probably the better lines of each game so now we split them up because you think Flip will excel on Pavs wing ? Huds has 2 points in 2 games and has played pretty decent both games no reason to lower his confidence and demoting him to the third line where he will become useless because you don't think he's doing good. Please re-think before you create so many stupid line threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 My lines in NHL 12 Franzen - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Cleary Hudler - Filppula - Abdelkader Eaves - Helm - McGrattan I'm pretty sure McGrattan made the Ducks roster Hopefully he'll see some time on the 4th line this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 I'm pretty sure McGrattan made the Ducks roster Hopefully he'll see some time on the 4th line this year. For some reason, he was a free agent when I acquired him, though. I'm still leaving that spot open for a pure goon on any Wings line I put together in this season long thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 For some reason, he was a free agent when I acquired him, though. I'm still leaving that spot open for a pure goon on any Wings line I put together in this season long thread. With Holmstrom and Bert likely done at the end of the year, hopefully Kenny will pick up someone along the lines of a David Clarkson or Brad Winchester for the 4th line. I'd nut if McGrattan became a Wing. 1 GMRwings1983 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Emmerton and Commodore to GR eh? Ya, not gonna happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 Hudler already has more points than he did in the first 20 games or something last season. No reason to mess with that quite yet. Flip might be great on Pavs wing, but he has been excellent so far on Z's wing as well. 1 Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 I gave you a +1 for making a singular thread for the season. unfortunately, as per your other line threads, i probably won't look at them. 3 Wingzman91, redwings8831 and puckbags reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 I gave you a +1 for making a singular thread for the season. unfortunately, as per your other line threads, i probably won't look at them. It would have been nice if he had just kept it as an update-able list of all the lineups used instead of turning into yet another "here are the lines I want" thread. At the very least he could have put his "lines I want" in a second post in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 9, 2011 I'd take interest in this if we weren't just talking about Detroit's lineup. Talking about why Hudler should or shouldn't play on the first line gets a little boring after a while. I'd like to discuss lineups of all NHL teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 What I think would be nice in a lines thread, more than just "post lines, argue about why your lines are the best" is maybe some reasonable discussion on the lineup. For one, blueadams, the lineup you suggested isn't going to happen. Emmerton has been rock solid so far and isn't going to Grand Rapids, even if he is waived. He likely won't be waived. Commodore is still injured, so we don't even know how he'll fit into the team. But we do know that Commie is a stay-at-home player while Smith is an offensive defenseman. The Wings need more guys like Commie right now. And even if that did happen, Kindl has outplayed Ericsson by a wide margin. Which leaves a defenseman who just signed a $3m+ deal in the press box while a prospect who could be in Grand Rapids plays. Smith certainly needs to work on parts of his game, and can do that in Grand Rapids. Also, you forgot to include Mursak in your preferred set of lines; he will be back at some point, after all. Ultimately when Mursak returns, one of the team's current skaters will have to be waived or traded. It will almost certainly be a forward, given that the team is carrying 14 and that Mursak is a forward. Which leaves a battle between Emmerton, Miller, Eaves, and Brunnstrom for three roster spots. As it stands, I would like to see the following setup tried out: Hudler/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi Filppula/Zetterberg/Franzen Cleary/Helm/Eaves Holmstrom/Emmerton/Abdelkader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) I honestly like what the wings have right now... I'm one of the rare hudler believers on this thread and I think he will be good with datsyuk. I think emmerton should stay and mursak should take millers spot when he returns Also I think emmerton miller and brunnstrom should all rotate in and out of the roster throughout the year Edited October 10, 2011 by wingsfan4795 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 10, 2011 Emmerton would not clear waivers now. Not a chance. For some reason, he was a free agent when I acquired him, though. You probably started your game with an older set of rosters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 I honestly like what the wings have right now... I'm one of the rare hudler believers on this thread and I think he will be good with datsyuk. I think emmerton should stay and mursak should take millers spot when he returns Also I think emmerton miller and brunnstrom should all rotate in and out of the roster throughout the year THIS. the hudler-dats-cleary line is great. hudler and cleary both feed off great players and really step up their play with dats. the franzen-zetts-flips is sweet too. franzen and flips have always had fantastic chemistry. also, after these last 2 games im really liking the abby-helm-tuzzi line. grit makes me happy the only changes i might make is a return of the franzen-flips-tuzzi line, and move zetts onto datsyuks line with cleary. then move hudler to the fourth line (where he belongs when not with zetts or dats) and move homer up to the 3rd to play with abby and helm. or maybe even brunnstrom instead of homer if he does well. 1 Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 958 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 Please re-think before you create so many stupid line threads. I believe he started this by saying he is only creating this one thread this year and adding to it as the year goes on... ....As far as lines go we may have to get real use to seeing almost a different team every night, babs never waits long before changing something up. The easiest way to change up during a game is playing with lines, its tough for the coach on the opposing team as well. What worries me (I just feel he pulls the trigger to soon some times) is the number of combos he can do with there scoring depth this year. Last year we had grinding depth, this year seems special and I look forward to it. Also by the looks of young guys in GR we are in good shape for a few years. 1 lil Wing's fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 I believe he started this by saying he is only creating this one thread this year and adding to it as the year goes on... ....As far as lines go we may have to get real use to seeing almost a different team every night, babs never waits long before changing something up. The easiest way to change up during a game is playing with lines, its tough for the coach on the opposing team as well. What worries me (I just feel he pulls the trigger to soon some times) is the number of combos he can do with there scoring depth this year. Last year we had grinding depth, this year seems special and I look forward to it. Also by the looks of young guys in GR we are in good shape for a few years. Babs will change a lot this year, that is fersure. But, I feel like there is some sense of default lines. clutch lines that we often revert back to. I'm thinking those default lines will be the ones we saw in the first 2 games. They make a lot of sense, but im all for a change up soon. keeps things interesting and exposes new chemistry and ideas. If anyone watched the long pre-game show before the Avs game, babs said he asked the new asst coach from western to come in everyday with a new idea. im sure a lot of these ideas will be about lines. babs is a genius, despite how simple this task for his assistants is. 1 lil Wing's fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) i've already changed my proposed lines in response to some of the more intelligent responses...lol Filppula-Datsyuk-Cleary - - - - - or - - - - - Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi - - - - - or - - - - - Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi Hudler-Nyquist-Eaves Miller-Helm-Abdelkader Holmstrom Emmerton Lidstrom-White Kronwall-Stuart Smith-Ericsson Kindl Howard Conklin Edited October 10, 2011 by blueadams 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 I believe he started this by saying he is only creating this one thread this year and adding to it as the year goes on... ....As far as lines go we may have to get real use to seeing almost a different team every night, babs never waits long before changing something up. The easiest way to change up during a game is playing with lines, its tough for the coach on the opposing team as well. What worries me (I just feel he pulls the trigger to soon some times) is the number of combos he can do with there scoring depth this year. Last year we had grinding depth, this year seems special and I look forward to it. Also by the looks of young guys in GR we are in good shape for a few years. Just saying, hes posted that before and a couple weeks later there's line threads everywhere. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 i've already changed my proposed lines in response to some of the more intelligent responses...lol Filppula-Datsyuk-Cleary - - - - - or - - - - - Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi - - - - - or - - - - - Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi Hudler-Nyquist-Eaves Miller-Helm-Abdelkader Holmstrom Emmerton Lidstrom-White Kronwall-Stuart Smith-Ericsson Kindl Howard Conklin So where is Mursak? He won't clear waivers. Commodore might due to his combination of age, skill, contract, and having started the year on injury. The fact is Smith and Nyquist likely won't be regulars this year unless they replace someone who really stinks it up. Smith won't jump Kindl in line, and Kindl is currently outplaying Ericsson. And Nyquist has a few guys in line ahead of him simply due to waiver issues. Your roster has the Wings benching Homer and Emmerton, and waiving Brunnstrom and Mursak JUST to put Nyquist in the lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 i've already changed my proposed lines in response to some of the more intelligent responses...lol Filppula-Datsyuk-Cleary - - - - - or - - - - - Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi - - - - - or - - - - - Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi Hudler-Nyquist-Eaves Miller-Helm-Abdelkader Holmstrom Emmerton Lidstrom-White Kronwall-Stuart Smith-Ericsson Kindl Howard Conklin kindl and commie b4 smith brunnstrom and mursak b4 nyquist homer on the 4th line and only usually plays on the pp hudler on the 4th line when not on Z or dats line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted October 11, 2011 So where is Mursak? He won't clear waivers. Commodore might due to his combination of age, skill, contract, and having started the year on injury. The fact is Smith and Nyquist likely won't be regulars this year unless they replace someone who really stinks it up. Smith won't jump Kindl in line, and Kindl is currently outplaying Ericsson. And Nyquist has a few guys in line ahead of him simply due to waiver issues. Your roster has the Wings benching Homer and Emmerton, and waiving Brunnstrom and Mursak JUST to put Nyquist in the lineup. i explained my reasoning a little more thoroughly in the updated original post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted October 11, 2011 babcock's changed the second power-play unit up...link: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/10/red_wings_power-play_struggles.html hudler replaces kindl on the point. cleary replaces bert in front. first pp unit remains the same - implying that miller might get more healthy scratches than homer. i've updated this on the original post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites